Price Is No Longer an Obstacle to Clean Power

[jc456]

Yes. Prices.

It’s so cheap Germany is now reopening coal! Can’t make it up

 

[Crick]

It’s so cheap Germany is now reopening coal! Can’t make it up

Germany Returns to Coal as Energy Security Trumps Climate Goals

Germany is set to boost its reliance on coal as it battles an unprecedented energy crisis — even at the expense of its ambitious climate goals.

www.bloomberg.com

Because of the invasion of Ukraine. And Germany still plans to end all coal by 2038 and some in the government are pushing for 2030.

 

[jc456]

Germany Returns to Coal as Energy Security Trumps Climate Goals

Germany is set to boost its reliance on coal as it battles an unprecedented energy crisis — even at the expense of its ambitious climate goals.

www.bloomberg.com

Because of the invasion of Ukraine. And Germany still plans to end all coal by 2038 and some in the government are pushing for 2030.

blatant lie and deception right there, now in two posts

from your link

Across the globe, highly polluting — and relatively cheap — coal is making a comeback as countries seek to prevent soaring energy costs from triggering an economic meltdown. In Europe, the crisis is acute, after Russia curbed gas supplies in the fallout of its war in Ukraine. Germany is now trying to balance the short-term priority of bolstering energy security with the longer-term goal of net-zero emissions by 2045.

Renewables Threaten German Economy & Energy Supply, McKinsey Warns In New Report

Renewables are also increasing electricity prices and making energy supplies less secure in Australia, California, and Britain.

www.forbes.com

But McKinsey issues its strongest warning when it comes to Germany's increasingly insecure energy supply due to its heavy reliance on intermittent solar and wind. For three days in June 2019, the electricity grid came close to black-outs.

"Only short-term imports from neighboring countries were able to stabilize the grid," the consultancy notes.
quote the part that says ukraine for us.

Renewables Threaten German Economy & Energy Supply, McKinsey Warns In New Report

Renewables are also increasing electricity prices and making energy supplies less secure in Australia, California, and Britain.

www.forbes.com

no war.
Despite much hype, Germany still generates just 35% of its electricity from renewables. And if biomass burning, often dirtier than coal, is excluded, wind, water and solar electricity in Germany accounted for just 27% of electricity generation in 2018.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Because of the invasion of Ukraine.

More like the U.S. involvement there, such as blowing up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

 

[Crick]

More like the U.S. involvement there, such as blowing up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

The US was not going to be served by the Nord Stream pipeline and it had not yet entered service to anyone. No one lost their gas supply due to the sabotage. Russia has cut off natural gas supplies to most of Europe in protest of NATO support of Ukraine.

 

[Grumblenuts]

The US was not going to be served by the Nord Stream pipeline

You were expecting it to be?

and it had not yet entered service to anyone. No one lost their gas supply due to the sabotage. Russia has cut off natural gas supplies to most of Europe in protest of NATO support of Ukraine.

Germany had been enjoying cheap Russian gas prior to the conflict. So cheap Germany had been selling their excess off to other nations at a profit. So they were obviously looking forward to opening the Nord Stream 2.. until Biden had it bombed off the table. No sense putting lipstick on any of the three pigs involved: Not Putin, Zelenskyy, or Biden.

 

[Crick]

You were expecting it to be?

Germany had been enjoying cheap Russian gas prior to the conflict. So cheap Germany had been selling their excess off to other nations at a profit. So they were obviously looking forward to opening the Nord Stream 2.. until Biden had it bombed off the table. No sense putting lipstick on any of the three pigs involved: Not Putin, Zelenskyy, or Biden.

I have seen no evidence that the US had any involvement with the act. The last article I read said it appeared to be a pro-Ukrainian group.

 

[Grumblenuts]

I have seen no evidence that the US had any involvement with the act. The last article I read said it appeared to be a pro-Ukrainian group.

 

[jc456]

The US was not going to be served by the Nord Stream pipeline and it had not yet entered service to anyone. No one lost their gas supply due to the sabotage. Russia has cut off natural gas supplies to most of Europe in protest of NATO support of Ukraine.

Oh for fk sake, link please

 

[jc456]

I have seen no evidence that the US had any involvement with the act. The last article I read said it appeared to be a pro-Ukrainian group.

You missed the news? Wow is right

How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now

seymourhersh.substack.com

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Germany Returns to Coal as Energy Security Trumps Climate Goals

Germany is set to boost its reliance on coal as it battles an unprecedented energy crisis — even at the expense of its ambitious climate goals.

www.bloomberg.com

Because of the invasion of Ukraine. And Germany still plans to end all coal by 2038 and some in the government are pushing for 2030.

You're right, they still have idiot politicians in Germany.

 

[Crick]

You're right, they still have idiot politicians in Germany.

That's called intelligence and principles.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That's called intelligence and principles.

Yeah, not producing enough reliable power, but charging a lot more, sounds very intelligent.

 

[Crick]

Yeah, not producing enough reliable power, but charging a lot more, sounds very intelligent.

It's Europe. They charge more for everything. But school and medicine are free.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's Europe. They charge more for everything. But school and medicine are free.

They charge more for electricity, despite all their free fuel?

Does that make them even dumber than you?

 

[Crick]

They charge more for electricity, despite all their free fuel?

Does that make them even dumber than you?

Dumb?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Dumb?

Not producing enough reliable power, but charging a lot more.....smart?

 

[Crick]

Not producing enough reliable power, but charging a lot more.....smart?

There you go.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There you go.

So they're dumber than you.

 

[Crick]

So they're dumber than you.

I thought you loved money.