2025 a major year for solar and wind

[toobfreak]

On the contrary, the chart clearly shows after 1997, there is a very clear increase in the average temperature.

RUBBISH. One blip in the data does not make a TREND. From 1997 to about 2015, the plot shows nothing not within the mean standard deviation margin of error, and it is not until about 2016 that one can say the plot took a direction significantly tracking higher consistently and staying that way. In fact, from 2007 to 2013, the plot returned so close and similar to all previous plotting that no trend could be said to have really been established yet.

In fact, where the chart drops off the last two years, the trend is actually reversing! From 2024 to present, the norm has actually been FALLING and has dropped by 0.4°C.

You're not talking to a farm boy, Rocky, don't try to blow smoke up my ass. Never mind there really isn't anything we can do about any of this, our civilization literally depends on and is built around fossil fuels and that will not change anytime soon without killing millions or billions of people, and at best, all I can say is that for now, we should watch these trends and see where they go over the next 5-10 years to see if the falling trend continues, how far, or whether it reverses and starts going up again.

Put simply and not to repeat myself, but too little data over too short a period of time. The past 25 years is but a blink in the timeline of the Earth. God knows what data we would see if we had such clear data records over the last 300 million years! Worse, if proof of the eventual doom of the planet just appeared 29 years ago and has gone this far south in so short a period of time, then you are screwed anyway.

My own personal feeling? The Earth is following the same pattern it has followed for millions of years--- we are currently entering a cycle of rapid oscillations of warming and cooling which will be followed by the next mini ice-age. Maybe this time the next holocenic ice age will be damped/muted a bit by the extra CO2 in the air.

Last I checked, there has been something like 8 little ice ages we have recorded since the present Quaternary period has begun.

 

[eagle1462010]

So.................
If wind, solar, and other "clean" energies are supposed to be CHEAPER than fossil fuels..........WHY does my electric bill keep going UP and UP and UP and UP and UP????

F*ck......I'm even registered with a "green company" for electric and they are just as costly as all the fossil fuel ones!!!!

One thing to look at.

Peak power rates. In Alabama from 1 p.m. ti 5 p.m. they CHARGE TRIPLE RATES. 3 times the normal price.

FYI. And im gonna stop paying that mostly with my install. But the panels take a lot of dang space.

But an away around. NO PABELS. Plug in your inverter and power during Peak hours.

Recharge at non peak hours. Third the cost

 

[Papageorgio]

Why the lie? Wind and solar alone contributed 19% of the electrical generation in the US in 2025;



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Renewables’ Share of U.S. Electricity Generation in 2025​

In 2025, renewable energy sources provided about 26% of total U.S. electricity generation Renewables Now+1. This includes wind, solar, hydropower, biomass, and geothermal.

Breakdown of Renewable Contributions​

• Wind power: ~10% of total U.S. electricity Renewable Energy Magazine.
• Solar power: ~9% of total U.S. electricity, with utility-scale solar alone at ~6.86% and small-scale (rooftop) solar at ~2.16% Renewable Energy Magazine.
• Hydropower, biomass, and geothermal: Together made up the remainder of the renewable share, with hydropower alone accounting for roughly 5.4% of total generation Renewables Now.

Context​

• Wind and solar together accounted for nearly 19% of total U.S. electricity in 2025, surpassing both coal and nuclear generation Renewables Now.
• This 26% share marks a significant increase from 24.1% in 2024, reflecting strong growth in solar capacity and output Renewables Now.
• Fossil fuels still dominated, with natural gas at about 41% and coal at 17% of total generation U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA).

In summary: In 2025, renewables generated just over a quarter of the U.S. electricity supply, with wind and solar leading the charge and hydropower, biomass, and geothermal making up the rest.

You need to learn how to use AI, amd CoPilot is way behind other AI’s.

Here is a government link. U.S. energy facts explained - consumption and production - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

You’re welcome.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, wind has been canceled because the dumb **** infesting the White House paid them not to build.

When you cancel the stupid subsidies, no one wants to build them.

 

[Robert W]

My, but you are a liar.

Record temperatures
On June 6, 2026, the Argentinian Esperanza Base on the Trinity Peninsula recorded a staggering 15.4°C, the highest winter temperature ever measured on the continent — about 20°C above the normal austral winter average of -6.2°C Euronews+1. This shattered the previous winter record of 13.3°C set in 1998 by more than 2°C informedclearly.com. Other Argentine stations also saw extreme anomalies: Marambio Base hit 11.8°C and San Martín Base reached 9.4°C Noticias Ambientales+1.

You chose the warmest occupied base in Antarctica as if it represents all of Antarctica.

 

[Robert W]

You need to learn how to use AI, amd CoPilot is way behind other AI’s.

Here is a government link. U.S. energy facts explained - consumption and production - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

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You’re welcome.

That is in line, (Within 1 percent in fact, of my own claim he chose to challenge) I said 10 percent renewables.

 

[Robert W]

Conclusion​

Ultimately, Judith Curry’s beliefs about global warming are complex and best understood through the lens of her evolving perspectives. While she recognizes the reality of climate change, her insistence on acknowledging uncertainties showcases a commitment to scientific rigor rather than blind acceptance of consensus. Whether you align with her interpretations or not, her contributions encourage discussion and critical thinking about climate science, emphasizing that the journey toward understanding climate dynamics is ongoing and requires contributions from various viewpoints.

Does Judith Curry Believe In Global Warming? - MAWEB

Judith Curry, a prominent climate scientist, has become a somewhat controversial figure when it comes to discussions around global warming and climate change.

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Everybody believes in global warming. Surely you heard of winter and then Summer.

 

[Robert W]

Yes, wind has been canceled because the dumb **** infesting the White House paid them not to build.

Would it be that actually Congress canceled it, if it happened at all?

 

[Robert W]

What is tragic is that you have no concept of what is actually happening. By the way, Dr. Curry states that the climate is changing, and that we need to study it more. Her problem is that she is suggesting we find the source of the ignition before we begin to fight the fire in the house.

You should have known about Winter and Summer. I and Curry believe in both.

 

[Robert W]

Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to eliminate subsidies for unreliable “green” energy sources like wind and solar in furtherance of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.

 

[Robert W]

Yes, wind has been canceled because the dumb **** infesting the White House paid them not to build.

Nobody cancelled them, the law simply stopped paying them subsidies. Per the one big, beautiful act.

Wind and solar firms can still sell, manufacture and ship those products to buyers.

 

[Papageorgio]

That is in line, (Within 1 percent in fact, of my own claim he chose to challenge) I said 10 percent renewables.

I know where his 26% claim comes from but that is actually 24% he is just but our US energy consumption is 9% or 10%. I can’t imagine how many tens of thousands more acres we would have to give up for the ugly solar and wind farms do we need to have.

 

[Robert W]

I know where his 26% claim comes from but that is actually 24% he is just but our US energy consumption is 9% or 10%. I can’t imagine how many tens of thousands more acres we would have to give up for the ugly solar and wind farms do we need to have.

Trump did not cancel wind and solar. He simply took it off the list to subsidize. Seems that guy is very angry about it.

 

[Papageorgio]

Trump did not cancel wind and solar. He simply took it off the list to subsidize. Seems that guy is very angry about it.

That was a good idea after they spent the money they were collapsing.

 

[Old Rocks]

You need to learn how to use AI, amd CoPilot is way behind other AI’s.

Here is a government link. U.S. energy facts explained - consumption and production - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

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You’re welcome.

Silly ass, I stated electrical generation. However, as the new batteries hit their stride, you will see them taking over the transportation sector. Hormuz is but one choke point for petroleum.

Toyota has a new solid state that is supposed to be in production by 2027. High density, about 750 of range for a standard car. 40 year lifespan, ten minute charging. Gotion is producing a light weight sodium battery that is far less costly and equals the energy density of the present ternary lithium ion batteries. In ten years, sooner if the petroleum wars continue, most new transportation will be electric. Oh, I know, you will still be standing by the highway yelling "Get a horse". LOL

 

[Old Rocks]

That was a good idea after they spent the money they were collapsing.

LOL TACO time again;

Trump Administration Withdraws Appeal, Leaving Wind Energy Leasing and Permitting Freeze Vacated

The Trump Administration has withdrawn its appeal of a federal court ruling that vacated the section of its January 2025 Presidential Wind Memorandum that halted federal leasing and permitting activities for onshore and offshore wind projects, leaving the court's decision in place and the wind...

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[Old Rocks]

I know where his 26% claim comes from but that is actually 24% he is just but our US energy consumption is 9% or 10%. I can’t imagine how many tens of thousands more acres we would have to give up for the ugly solar and wind farms do we need to have.

More dumb fuckery. LOL East of The Dallas, Oregon, there are thousands of wind turbines standing in wheat fields with wheat growing right up to the bases of the wind turbines. More and more solar farms are doing agrivoltaics, getting energy, food, and even wool from the same ground. And then there are the parking lots. But of course you love the beauty of mining coal;

But tar sand mining is even prettier, right?

 

[Robert W]

More dumb fuckery. LOL East of The Dallas, Oregon, there are thousands of wind turbines standing in wheat fields with wheat growing right up to the bases of the wind turbines. More and more solar farms are doing agrivoltaics, getting energy, food, and even wool from the same ground. And then there are the parking lots. But of course you love the beauty of mining coal;

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But tar sand mining is even prettier, right?

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You must own stock in wind and solar panel industries.

 

[Papageorgio]

More dumb fuckery. LOL East of The Dallas, Oregon, there are thousands of wind turbines standing in wheat fields with wheat growing right up to the bases of the wind turbines. More and more solar farms are doing agrivoltaics, getting energy, food, and even wool from the same ground. And then there are the parking lots. But of course you love the beauty of mining coal;

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But tar sand mining is even prettier, right?

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I have driven by those windmills farms 100’s of times, Tens of thousands of acres, right along the road, really ugly and all the blinking red lights flashing all might the ugly towers along the highway, seen everywhere in the PNW, Head south and in Utah, Arizona, California, Nevada, thousands of solar farms, really ugly. Then you have the morons in Salem tearing out the dams, the best source of electricity, what moron is that stupid? Then they have the no splashing law, where you get fined for splashing in the water, seriously, what stupid moron votes this kind of stupidity? And make sure you don’t have a rain barrel because that will damage the environment but let’s erect hands of miles of white ugly towers along a scenic highway, yeah moron that makes sense. As a former Oregonian I am glad I am gone. The valley votes against its best interests and it keeps getting worse. Enjoy you stupidity.