POLL: Trump's America, 2025

[gipper]

The only possible silver lining to a Trump re-election, is the country breaks apart into multiple individual much smaller nations. Secession might be the answer to ending this shit show that is our criminal government

I am fine with this. Just don't let the Democrats jump the fence to my nation when "other" people's money runs out and they realize that no borders, free stuff and lawlessness doesn't work.

Is there enough of you uncaring heartless cons to form a nation? Imagine that shit hole!

 

[Polishprince]

The only possible silver lining to a Trump re-election, is the country breaks apart into multiple individual much smaller nations. Secession might be the answer to ending this shit show that is our criminal government

To angry Trumpettes: Trump isn’t responsible for the shit show, but maybe he could unknowingly terminate it.

Why would the breakup of America be a "silver lining"?

And why don't you think that a victory by the Sleepy Joe base would cause division? A lot of people oppose Biden's radical ideas , from reparations to men in dresses being allowed to violate the sanctity of the nation's Ladies Rooms.

Yes, Sleepy Joe’s election might lead to secession too. So, another silver lining.

If you think our federal government doesn’t need elimination, you need to think again.

PS. Joe is no radical. He’s very conservative. You have been propagandized by right wing media. Just research his 45 year track record. It’s not hard.

Biden's record, from the New Green Deal to his socialized Medical Schemes, higher taxes and Gay Marriage are a matter of public record. In my view it seems radical- to someone to the left of Fidel, I can appreciate that they might see Sleepy Joe as "conservative"

 

[Mac1958]

There are already a lot of people from both "sides" who have had enough and are working desperately to make some changes.

The problem is that those two groups are (a) traditional conservatives and (b) full-on progressives, and I don't know how the hell they're going to find common ground.

On the other hand, maybe they both see how ugly things get when people refuse to communicate and collaborate: Division, bigotry, hatred, paranoia, destruction.

Anyway, here's hoping.

 

[Maxdeath]

Since you were afraid to ask what would things look like if Biden won I will bring it up.
i see a massive individual tax burden. Higher national debt. High unemployment as businesses fight stay open thanks to new government regulations and high federal taxes.
I see rioting, looting as a way of life for who feel wronged or oppressed.
Don‘t like the tax rate, riot. Don’t like unemployment, riot. I even see conservatives turning to it as a way to address grievances.
I see Trillions poured into the Green Deal and nothing but debt to show for it.

 

[there4eyeM]

At this point, anything that encouraged America to have more than the present dualistic 'choices' is attractive. Not sure how that fits, though perhaps it tends to 3.

 

[Billiejeens]

Why didn't you include an answer that America would be less divided and more civil, as a thorough schlonging would mellow out The Squad and other leaders of the Democrat Party that are burning down our cities?

Is it because he is self aggrandizing troll who should be ignored as much as is possible?

 

[Correll]

Why didn't you include an answer that America would be less divided and more civil, as a thorough schlonging would mellow out The Squad and other leaders of the Democrat Party that are burning down our cities?

Good one.

 

[DBA]

The only possible silver lining to a Trump re-election, is the country breaks apart into multiple individual much smaller nations. Secession might be the answer to ending this shit show that is our criminal government

I am fine with this. Just don't let the Democrats jump the fence to my nation when "other" people's money runs out and they realize that no borders, free stuff and lawlessness doesn't work.

Is there enough of you uncaring heartless cons to form a nation? Imagine that shit hole!

We aren't heartless, we just have big enough kahones to stand against childish nonsense. Democrats don't have a backbone are non-pragmatic, over-emotional adolescent minded brats. The left-wing nation would fall in short order and would be the most immoral, poverty stricken, lawless place on earth.

 

[gipper]

The only possible silver lining to a Trump re-election, is the country breaks apart into multiple individual much smaller nations. Secession might be the answer to ending this shit show that is our criminal government

To angry Trumpettes: Trump isn’t responsible for the shit show, but maybe he could unknowingly terminate it.

Why would the breakup of America be a "silver lining"?

And why don't you think that a victory by the Sleepy Joe base would cause division? A lot of people oppose Biden's radical ideas , from reparations to men in dresses being allowed to violate the sanctity of the nation's Ladies Rooms.

Yes, Sleepy Joe’s election might lead to secession too. So, another silver lining.

If you think our federal government doesn’t need elimination, you need to think again.

PS. Joe is no radical. He’s very conservative. You have been propagandized by right wing media. Just research his 45 year track record. It’s not hard.

Biden's record, from the New Green Deal to his socialized Medical Schemes, higher taxes and Gay Marriage are a matter of public record. In my view it seems radical- to someone to the left of Fidel, I can appreciate that they might see Sleepy Joe as "conservative"

All propaganda. Stop being a lazy ass. Just research his record for five minutes and you will find you’ve been duped.

 

[gipper]

The only possible silver lining to a Trump re-election, is the country breaks apart into multiple individual much smaller nations. Secession might be the answer to ending this shit show that is our criminal government

I am fine with this. Just don't let the Democrats jump the fence to my nation when "other" people's money runs out and they realize that no borders, free stuff and lawlessness doesn't work.

Is there enough of you uncaring heartless cons to form a nation? Imagine that shit hole!

We aren't heartless, we just have big enough kahones to stand against childish nonsense. Democrats don't have a backbone are non-pragmatic, over-emotional adolescent minded brats. The left-wing nation would fall in short order and would be the most immoral, poverty stricken, lawless place on earth.

Absurd and typical con thinking. Total nonsense.

 

[DBA]

The only possible silver lining to a Trump re-election, is the country breaks apart into multiple individual much smaller nations. Secession might be the answer to ending this shit show that is our criminal government

I am fine with this. Just don't let the Democrats jump the fence to my nation when "other" people's money runs out and they realize that no borders, free stuff and lawlessness doesn't work.

Is there enough of you uncaring heartless cons to form a nation? Imagine that shit hole!

We aren't heartless, we just have big enough kahones to stand against childish nonsense. Democrats don't have a backbone are non-pragmatic, over-emotional adolescent minded brats. The left-wing nation would fall in short order and would be the most immoral, poverty stricken, lawless place on earth.

Absurd and typical con thinking. Total nonsense.

You are right. Democrats are sensible, pragmatic adults who would never riot, loot or throw tantrums. Said nobody in their right mind ever.

 

[Mac1958]

Since you were afraid to ask what would things look like if Biden won I will bring it up.

I asked a specific question.

If you're afraid to answer it, if you want change the subject, that's on you.

I wish those who are afraid to answer clear questions wouldn't try to derail the thread. You could just start a similar thread.

 

[Marion Morrison]

I predict Stormy Mac will be the 1st resident of many in the TDS wing of the newly-reopened state Mental Hospital in his state.

 

[martybegan]

It's entirely possible that Trump could win again in November. That makes me wonder what our increasing divisions (primarily race & wealth) would look like when he left office in January 2025.

But this poll isn't about predictions. This is about what you want to see (regarding those divisions) America look like in January 2025.

To expand on the poll questions:

1. I don't care. I'd have my taxes lowered, my gun rights intact, and we'd have a very conservative Supreme Court in place to control abortion, immigration, and other issues. PLUS, there would probably be a lot more violence from the Left in response, which would help us in the 2024 elections.
2. America would be even more divided and angry, with even more people suffering. I hope that by that time, enough people will have been marginalized, and demographics will have continued to change enough, that the American people are finally able to say "enough is enough" to this ugliness.
3. The divisions may get so bad that we'll see a strong move towards the middle of this mess. Between the selfish, arrogant ignorance that is Trumpism, and the PC - Identity Politics - Cancel Culture bullshit that is keeping people away from the Democrats, some reasonable voices will finally find significant traction.

Please feel free to go into detail. Your vote will not be visible.

I would all depend on how the left took the loss. If they are brought to reality and see that their embrace of identity politics and hard socialism is making their party a pariah to the middle of the country, then maybe we would see them try to return to a more moderate stance.

On the other hand if the decide to double down and go even more radical, then their only recourse is to declare Trump's win illegal/illegitimate and then condone whatever violence will begin to explode across the country for 4 years as some of the more radical rioters decide to "go professional" and up the ante by bringing back actual revolutionary leftists outfits like the Weather Underground.

 

[CowboyTed]

It's entirely possible that Trump could win again in November. That makes me wonder what our increasing divisions (primarily race & wealth) would look like when he left office in January 2025.

But this poll isn't about predictions. This is about what you want to see (regarding those divisions) America look like in January 2025.

To expand on the poll questions:

1. I don't care. I'd have my taxes lowered, my gun rights intact, and we'd have a very conservative Supreme Court in place to control abortion, immigration, and other issues. PLUS, there would probably be a lot more violence from the Left in response, which would help us in the 2024 elections.
2. America would be even more divided and angry, with even more people suffering. I hope that by that time, enough people will have been marginalized, and demographics will have continued to change enough, that the American people are finally able to say "enough is enough" to this ugliness.
3. The divisions may get so bad that we'll see a strong move towards the middle of this mess. Between the selfish, arrogant ignorance that is Trumpism, and the PC - Identity Politics - Cancel Culture bullshit that is keeping people away from the Democrats, some reasonable voices will finally find significant traction.

Please feel free to go into detail. Your vote will not be visible.

Mac,

I think the main problem you can see here, Look how many posts on this thread relies on falsehoods about the Candidates, especially Biden... There is no concept of truth or integrity... this is the major sickness in America...

Mac, remember a time when you grew up and you said some nonsense? People would ignore you... That is not happening, integrity has gone. This is a war and the first casualty in war is the truth.

Lets look at this first page of this thread and look at false claims or accusation without proof about each candidate....

Norman
Biden who believes that America belongs to "immigrants" - Unproven, Statement please
(immigrants) do not want the American values. - Could you tell us what percentage want this?
we will be more angry and more divided come 2025 - Prove that, Trump is President and this hostility is under his watch...
there are the leftists who all the wealth and racial division has made completely insane if not a little opportunistic. - Not any major element

Polishprince
First answer
If Biden were to emerge victorious, it would teach his devotees that rioting, burning and looting work in America and civil society is obsolete- at least in the fields of government and politics. - Seriously

Second Answer
And why don't you think that a victory by the Sleepy Joe base would cause division? A lot of people oppose Biden's radical ideas , from reparations to men in dresses being allowed to violate the sanctity of the nation's Ladies Rooms. - Biden Radical, please prove this... Biden would be center right in any other developed nation. Again more insults..

Jittss
There is the TDS option? - Gaslighting
Ok tds - Gaslighting

DBA
First Answer:
Good, don't agree with him but he put up a worth while answer...
Second Answer:
I say he was stretching it a bit running a old narrative. But it is generally respectful.

alang1216
Trump, having won, will have no interest in governing or running for any office so the GOP in congress will rule, also he won't need to fan any flames of division, he'll just want to shore up his legend. - This is a bit of a stretch but nothing major. Most presidents care about there legacy.
He'll have lots of rallies to support his ego and ANY candidate that says nice things about him. - True, We have seen this
Lots of golf. - True
Meanwhile the GOP will be anxious to look to the future and see that catering solely to white men is not a winning, long-term strategy. - This is the question.

 

[CowboyTed]

Meanwhile the GOP will be anxious to look to the future and see that catering solely to white men is not a winning, long-term strategy.

Pure ignorance.

DBA,

that is a bit unfair...

GOP primary base is shrinking, they are loosing Women, College educated, Young... GOP has Old, Non College, Religious and Farmers, all shrinking... Conservatives are supposed to be making a play for Middle Class and Democrats Working Class traditionally... Trump went for the Blue collar workers with promises and dreams, they have not been delivered on.
Trump has used his personality to keep them together but there is leaking. Trump is just not delivering for a lot of these people.

 

[alang1216]

Meanwhile the GOP will be anxious to look to the future and see that catering solely to white men is not a winning, long-term strategy.

Pure ignorance.

Please enlighten me then. What has the GOP done to expand their support? Note I wrote "done" not "said".

 

[gipper]

The only possible silver lining to a Trump re-election, is the country breaks apart into multiple individual much smaller nations. Secession might be the answer to ending this shit show that is our criminal government

I am fine with this. Just don't let the Democrats jump the fence to my nation when "other" people's money runs out and they realize that no borders, free stuff and lawlessness doesn't work.

Is there enough of you uncaring heartless cons to form a nation? Imagine that shit hole!

We aren't heartless, we just have big enough kahones to stand against childish nonsense. Democrats don't have a backbone are non-pragmatic, over-emotional adolescent minded brats. The left-wing nation would fall in short order and would be the most immoral, poverty stricken, lawless place on earth.

Absurd and typical con thinking. Total nonsense.

You are right. Democrats are sensible, pragmatic adults who would never riot, loot or throw tantrums. Said nobody in their right mind ever.

Now you’ve gone too far.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Trumps second Term:

• The American Taliban relocated overseas
• US Department of Education eliminated
• Secure Blockchain Voting with Voter ID mandatory
• China made to pay $10 Trillion in reparations for the Obama funded Wuhan Flu (apparently Barack & Fauci moved to Beijing after the 2020 election)

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The only possible silver lining to a Trump re-election, is the country breaks apart into multiple individual much smaller nations. Secession might be the answer to ending this shit show that is our criminal government

To angry Trumpettes: Trump isn’t responsible for the shit show, but maybe he could unknowingly terminate it.

Why would the breakup of America be a "silver lining"?

And why don't you think that a victory by the Sleepy Joe base would cause division? A lot of people oppose Biden's radical ideas , from reparations to men in dresses being allowed to violate the sanctity of the nation's Ladies Rooms.

Yes, Sleepy Joe’s election might lead to secession too. So, another silver lining.

If you think our federal government doesn’t need elimination, you need to think again.

PS. Joe is no radical. He’s very conservative. You have been propagandized by right wing media. Just research his 45 year track record. It’s not hard.

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