Polar Ice Caps More Stable Than Predicted, New Observations Show

[bripat9643]

It will be interesting to see how the AGW cult spins this news:

Polar Ice Caps More Stable Than Predicted New Observations Show Watts Up With That

THE North and South Poles are “not melting”, according to a leading global warming expert. In fact, the poles are “much more stable” than climate scientists once predicted and could even be much thicker than previously thought. For years, scientists have suggested that both poles are melting at an alarming rate because of warming temperatures – dangerously raising the Earth’s sea levels while threatening the homes of Arctic and Antarctic animals.

But the uncertainty surrounding climate change and the polar ice caps reached a new level this month when research suggested the ice in the Antarctic is actually growing.

And there could even be evidence to suggest the polar bear population is not under threat.

Ted Maksym, an oceanographer at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts, conducted a study in which he sent an underwater robot into the depths of the Antarctic sea to measure the ice. . .​

 

[BlindBoo]

Arctic sea ice extent for November was the 9th lowest in the satellite record. Through 2014, the linear rate of decline for November extent over the satellite record is 4.7% per decade.

New research this year from Japanese scientists (Mori et al., 2014) provides support for the hypothesis, put forward by Jennifer Francis of Rutgers University and Steve Vavrus of the University of Wisconsin, that the warming Arctic is contributing to an increasing waviness of the jet stream with the potential for more extreme weather events, including cold outbreaks in the lower 48 U.S. and Eurasia that have been seen in recent years. However, while there is some evidence of this connection, it is not conclusive and many scientists remain skeptical of a link between Arctic sea ice and mid-latitude weather.

Antarctic sea ice has continued to decline at a faster-than-average pace (approximately 122,000 square kilometers, or 47,100 square miles per day through the month of October, compared to the average rate of 112,000 square kilometers or 43,200 square miles per day), and is now about 650,000 square kilometers (251,000 square miles) below the level for the date recorded in 2013.

Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis Sea ice data updated daily with one-day lag

 

[Carib Gyal]

Dueling Studies. Bring in the banjo music.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Jennifer Francis is a moron

 

[Carib Gyal]

Arctic sea ice extent for November was the 9th lowest in the satellite record. Through 2014, the linear rate of decline for November extent over the satellite record is 4.7% per decade.

New research this year from Japanese scientists (Mori et al., 2014) provides support for the hypothesis, put forward by Jennifer Francis of Rutgers University and Steve Vavrus of the University of Wisconsin, that the warming Arctic is contributing to an increasing waviness of the jet stream with the potential for more extreme weather events, including cold outbreaks in the lower 48 U.S. and Eurasia that have been seen in recent years. However, while there is some evidence of this connection, it is not conclusive and many scientists remain skeptical of a link between Arctic sea ice and mid-latitude weather.

Antarctic sea ice has continued to decline at a faster-than-average pace (approximately 122,000 square kilometers, or 47,100 square miles per day through the month of October, compared to the average rate of 112,000 square kilometers or 43,200 square miles per day), and is now about 650,000 square kilometers (251,000 square miles) below the level for the date recorded in 2013.

Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis Sea ice data updated daily with one-day lag

Just some quick math for me to understand this better. The entire continent of Antarctica is 5.4 million sq miles (says google). If it's declining at 47,000 sq miles per day, it would disappear in under 4 months. How long have they been keeping these records?

 

[BlindBoo]

Arctic sea ice extent for November was the 9th lowest in the satellite record. Through 2014, the linear rate of decline for November extent over the satellite record is 4.7% per decade.

New research this year from Japanese scientists (Mori et al., 2014) provides support for the hypothesis, put forward by Jennifer Francis of Rutgers University and Steve Vavrus of the University of Wisconsin, that the warming Arctic is contributing to an increasing waviness of the jet stream with the potential for more extreme weather events, including cold outbreaks in the lower 48 U.S. and Eurasia that have been seen in recent years. However, while there is some evidence of this connection, it is not conclusive and many scientists remain skeptical of a link between Arctic sea ice and mid-latitude weather.

Antarctic sea ice has continued to decline at a faster-than-average pace (approximately 122,000 square kilometers, or 47,100 square miles per day through the month of October, compared to the average rate of 112,000 square kilometers or 43,200 square miles per day), and is now about 650,000 square kilometers (251,000 square miles) below the level for the date recorded in 2013.

Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis Sea ice data updated daily with one-day lag

Just some quick math for me to understand this better. The entire continent of Antarctica is 5.4 million sq miles (says google). If it's declining at 47,000 sq miles per day, it would disappear in under 4 months. How long have they been keeping these records?

There is a difference between the sea ice that forms around Antarctica and the Continent of Antarctica. Does that help?

 

[Carib Gyal]

Arctic sea ice extent for November was the 9th lowest in the satellite record. Through 2014, the linear rate of decline for November extent over the satellite record is 4.7% per decade.

New research this year from Japanese scientists (Mori et al., 2014) provides support for the hypothesis, put forward by Jennifer Francis of Rutgers University and Steve Vavrus of the University of Wisconsin, that the warming Arctic is contributing to an increasing waviness of the jet stream with the potential for more extreme weather events, including cold outbreaks in the lower 48 U.S. and Eurasia that have been seen in recent years. However, while there is some evidence of this connection, it is not conclusive and many scientists remain skeptical of a link between Arctic sea ice and mid-latitude weather.

Antarctic sea ice has continued to decline at a faster-than-average pace (approximately 122,000 square kilometers, or 47,100 square miles per day through the month of October, compared to the average rate of 112,000 square kilometers or 43,200 square miles per day), and is now about 650,000 square kilometers (251,000 square miles) below the level for the date recorded in 2013.

Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis Sea ice data updated daily with one-day lag

Just some quick math for me to understand this better. The entire continent of Antarctica is 5.4 million sq miles (says google). If it's declining at 47,000 sq miles per day, it would disappear in under 4 months. How long have they been keeping these records?

There is a difference between the sea ice that forms around Antarctica and the Continent of Antarctica. Does that help?

lol

So these researchers are saying the sea ice that forms around Antarctica is bigger than the continent itself, and it disappears every 4 months? Does something else happen, like maybe it re-forms?

 

[Porker]

It will be interesting to see how the AGW cult spins this news:

Polar Ice Caps More Stable Than Predicted New Observations Show Watts Up With That

THE North and South Poles are “not melting”, according to a leading global warming expert. In fact, the poles are “much more stable” than climate scientists once predicted and could even be much thicker than previously thought. For years, scientists have suggested that both poles are melting at an alarming rate because of warming temperatures – dangerously raising the Earth’s sea levels while threatening the homes of Arctic and Antarctic animals.

But the uncertainty surrounding climate change and the polar ice caps reached a new level this month when research suggested the ice in the Antarctic is actually growing.

And there could even be evidence to suggest the polar bear population is not under threat.

Ted Maksym, an oceanographer at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts, conducted a study in which he sent an underwater robot into the depths of the Antarctic sea to measure the ice. . .​

I expect the Midwest U.S. ice cap to start forming anytime now. Temp at noon 20° F and down to 10 or below by weeks end.

 

[BlindBoo]

Arctic sea ice extent for November was the 9th lowest in the satellite record. Through 2014, the linear rate of decline for November extent over the satellite record is 4.7% per decade.

New research this year from Japanese scientists (Mori et al., 2014) provides support for the hypothesis, put forward by Jennifer Francis of Rutgers University and Steve Vavrus of the University of Wisconsin, that the warming Arctic is contributing to an increasing waviness of the jet stream with the potential for more extreme weather events, including cold outbreaks in the lower 48 U.S. and Eurasia that have been seen in recent years. However, while there is some evidence of this connection, it is not conclusive and many scientists remain skeptical of a link between Arctic sea ice and mid-latitude weather.

Antarctic sea ice has continued to decline at a faster-than-average pace (approximately 122,000 square kilometers, or 47,100 square miles per day through the month of October, compared to the average rate of 112,000 square kilometers or 43,200 square miles per day), and is now about 650,000 square kilometers (251,000 square miles) below the level for the date recorded in 2013.

Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis Sea ice data updated daily with one-day lag

Just some quick math for me to understand this better. The entire continent of Antarctica is 5.4 million sq miles (says google). If it's declining at 47,000 sq miles per day, it would disappear in under 4 months. How long have they been keeping these records?

There is a difference between the sea ice that forms around Antarctica and the Continent of Antarctica. Does that help?

lol

So these researchers are saying the sea ice that forms around Antarctica is bigger than the continent itself, and it disappears every 4 months? Does something else happen, like maybe it re-forms?

Once a year, in February, most of the sea ice around Antarctica melts.

World of Change Antarctic Sea Ice Feature Articles

 

[Carib Gyal]

Arctic sea ice extent for November was the 9th lowest in the satellite record. Through 2014, the linear rate of decline for November extent over the satellite record is 4.7% per decade.

New research this year from Japanese scientists (Mori et al., 2014) provides support for the hypothesis, put forward by Jennifer Francis of Rutgers University and Steve Vavrus of the University of Wisconsin, that the warming Arctic is contributing to an increasing waviness of the jet stream with the potential for more extreme weather events, including cold outbreaks in the lower 48 U.S. and Eurasia that have been seen in recent years. However, while there is some evidence of this connection, it is not conclusive and many scientists remain skeptical of a link between Arctic sea ice and mid-latitude weather.

Antarctic sea ice has continued to decline at a faster-than-average pace (approximately 122,000 square kilometers, or 47,100 square miles per day through the month of October, compared to the average rate of 112,000 square kilometers or 43,200 square miles per day), and is now about 650,000 square kilometers (251,000 square miles) below the level for the date recorded in 2013.

Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis Sea ice data updated daily with one-day lag

Just some quick math for me to understand this better. The entire continent of Antarctica is 5.4 million sq miles (says google). If it's declining at 47,000 sq miles per day, it would disappear in under 4 months. How long have they been keeping these records?

There is a difference between the sea ice that forms around Antarctica and the Continent of Antarctica. Does that help?

lol

So these researchers are saying the sea ice that forms around Antarctica is bigger than the continent itself, and it disappears every 4 months? Does something else happen, like maybe it re-forms?

Once a year, in February, most of the sea ice around Antarctica melts.

World of Change Antarctic Sea Ice Feature Articles

Yeah, there's something fishy about their findings. Still, there have been 8 previous years where whatever they're claiming was worse than this year.

Maybe it's like.....a cycle or something.

 

[BlindBoo]

Arctic sea ice extent for November was the 9th lowest in the satellite record. Through 2014, the linear rate of decline for November extent over the satellite record is 4.7% per decade.

New research this year from Japanese scientists (Mori et al., 2014) provides support for the hypothesis, put forward by Jennifer Francis of Rutgers University and Steve Vavrus of the University of Wisconsin, that the warming Arctic is contributing to an increasing waviness of the jet stream with the potential for more extreme weather events, including cold outbreaks in the lower 48 U.S. and Eurasia that have been seen in recent years. However, while there is some evidence of this connection, it is not conclusive and many scientists remain skeptical of a link between Arctic sea ice and mid-latitude weather.

Antarctic sea ice has continued to decline at a faster-than-average pace (approximately 122,000 square kilometers, or 47,100 square miles per day through the month of October, compared to the average rate of 112,000 square kilometers or 43,200 square miles per day), and is now about 650,000 square kilometers (251,000 square miles) below the level for the date recorded in 2013.

Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis Sea ice data updated daily with one-day lag

Just some quick math for me to understand this better. The entire continent of Antarctica is 5.4 million sq miles (says google). If it's declining at 47,000 sq miles per day, it would disappear in under 4 months. How long have they been keeping these records?

There is a difference between the sea ice that forms around Antarctica and the Continent of Antarctica. Does that help?

lol

So these researchers are saying the sea ice that forms around Antarctica is bigger than the continent itself, and it disappears every 4 months? Does something else happen, like maybe it re-forms?

Once a year, in February, most of the sea ice around Antarctica melts.

World of Change Antarctic Sea Ice Feature Articles

Yeah, there's something fishy about their findings. Still, there have been 8 previous years where whatever they're claiming was worse than this year.

Maybe it's like.....a cycle or something.

Yes sea ice formation and melting is cyclical and has little effect on sea levels. The entire arctic ice cap could melt and the ocean level would hardly change.

 

[Carib Gyal]

Just some quick math for me to understand this better. The entire continent of Antarctica is 5.4 million sq miles (says google). If it's declining at 47,000 sq miles per day, it would disappear in under 4 months. How long have they been keeping these records?

There is a difference between the sea ice that forms around Antarctica and the Continent of Antarctica. Does that help?

lol

So these researchers are saying the sea ice that forms around Antarctica is bigger than the continent itself, and it disappears every 4 months? Does something else happen, like maybe it re-forms?

Once a year, in February, most of the sea ice around Antarctica melts.

World of Change Antarctic Sea Ice Feature Articles

Yeah, there's something fishy about their findings. Still, there have been 8 previous years where whatever they're claiming was worse than this year.

Maybe it's like.....a cycle or something.

Yes sea ice formation and melting is cyclical and has little effect on sea levels. The entire arctic ice cap could melt and the ocean level would hardly change.

Sea levels?

Anyway, it's good to know it's getting better all the time. Maybe next year it will be the 12th lowest year on record.

 

[BlindBoo]

There is a difference between the sea ice that forms around Antarctica and the Continent of Antarctica. Does that help?

lol

So these researchers are saying the sea ice that forms around Antarctica is bigger than the continent itself, and it disappears every 4 months? Does something else happen, like maybe it re-forms?

Once a year, in February, most of the sea ice around Antarctica melts.

World of Change Antarctic Sea Ice Feature Articles

Yeah, there's something fishy about their findings. Still, there have been 8 previous years where whatever they're claiming was worse than this year.

Maybe it's like.....a cycle or something.

Yes sea ice formation and melting is cyclical and has little effect on sea levels. The entire arctic ice cap could melt and the ocean level would hardly change.

Sea levels?

Anyway, it's good to know it's getting better all the time. Maybe next year it will be the 12th lowest year on record.

Getting better all the time? A downward sloping sine wave can appear to be increasing when the overall trend is downward.

 

[initforme]

Minus 37 degrees when I woke up this morning.... Fill up the outdoor furnace with dry oak... House is a steady 72 degrees all day on 4 pieces of wood.... those that don't like the cold are spineless slackers. I'm hoping for some blizzards down south of the mason Dixon line... always provides for fun viewing.