Greenland ice melt worse than previously believed

[protectionist]

OMG! He`s been gone for a long time but you`re still stalking him.

Some people think he's gone. Others say he's pulling Biden's strings. Whatever.

 

[protectionist]

Greenies must be a race/religion/sex/ethnicity of their own or something.

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Only they know.

 

[protectionist]

Good. I love fresh water. Soon, Greenland really will be green! Maybe Trump can build a resort there. Might be a good place to send all of the illegal aliens!

Maybe they can rename it Sanctuaryland, since New York, DC, Chicago et al have given up on the sanctuary idea.

 

[toobfreak]

Maybe they can rename it Sanctuaryland, since New York, DC, Chicago et al have given up on the sanctuary idea.

Nope. Still lots of sanctuary cities! I say, FILL 'ER UP! Let's keep pumping thousands upon millions of dirty, diseased, poor, non-english speaking illegals into them needing food, housing, and healthcare! It is what they said they want! I say fill NY city until every last space is full and the city collapses.

 

[JGalt]

Maybe they can rename it Sanctuaryland, since New York, DC, Chicago et al have given up on the sanctuary idea.

Great idea? The Texas Governor could load them up on a boat in Houston and ship them to Greenland.

If they thought NYC was cold...

 

[Crick]

There is no measurable rise in sea levels unless you cherry-pick the locations.

Says who? Are you suggesting that global temperatures have not risen?

But the more fundamental question is never asked. "OK, let's suppose that Greenland's ice melting is a catastrophe. What can 'we' do about it?"

Stop burning fossil fuels.

And the answer is NOTHING.

Wrong. We need to stop burning fossil fuels.

Even if everyone in the U.S., Canada, and Western Europe parked their cars, adjusted their thermostats, and took up subsistence farming, it would have no impact on the earth's climate for the next hundred years. You could look it up.

It wouldn't be a hundred years but it wouldn't be immediate. That's not a reason to do nothing, that's a reason to do everything we can as soon as possible.

Because the developing world and the third world (2/3 of the earth's population at least) will - and MUST - expand their use of fossil fuels massively in order to raise themselves up, collectively, to the modern era.

Nope. The world needs to expand its use of non-emitting energy sources.

That means coal-fired power plants, ICE-powered transportation, agricultural, and construction vehicles, and cooking on stoves powered by natural gas, or its equivalent.

No, it doesn't.

We in the developed world will adapt to whatever happens to the climate.

We will adapt better than the poor, but it will still cost us significant amounts of money, hardship and casualties. And the longer we put it off, the more it will cost, the greater the hardship and the higher the casualties.

We always do. Sea walls will be built around Manhattan island, if necessary, populations will be moved, architecture will be adapted to a warming world. We will survive, nicely.

Nicely? God are you stupid.

The faux panic is all about power.

The lies you're telling are all about the survival of the fossil fuel industry who've been filling your head with shit.

It is a campaign by the global Left to give Government total power over the means of production, so they can control how we live.

Bullshit. It's a campaign by the fossil fuel industry to use fools like you to save themselves.

Joe Biden's ICE bans are just the nose of the camel, so to speak. Only idiots fail to see it.

God are you STUPID!!!

 

[August West]

Does anyone else think "Greenland" is a stupid name for a country that's covered in ice?

I know the name "Iceland" is already taken, but they could have came up with a better name. Is that whole country inhabited by inbred reindeer-fucking morons, that they couldn't come up with a better name?

Greenland`s literacy rate is 100%.
Ours is 79%.

 

[luiza]

The study, which was published Wednesday in the journal Nature,

Most if this is caused by the cold weather .
The ice gets so agitated by it that it melts .
Super ice heating .
Or, supercalifragalistic ice heating , being technical .

 

[justoffal]

Things like: atmospheric CO2 levels, global temperature, ocean heat content, sea level, ice mass balance at the poles, Greenland and the world's glaciers. Where President Obama lives doesn't mean Jack Shit. That you think it does tells me there's a good chance you're a right wing bigot.

I think the point is that people will be more convinced when everyone takes it seriously.
Jetting about in gas Turbine powered planes and purchasing sea side property erodes the confidence in the theory especially when it's being done by some of the loudest voices that espouse that theory. Not at all hard to understand it.

 

[justoffal]

Greenland`s literacy rate is 100%.
Ours is 79%.

79 is quite generous....looking at functional levels of literacy I'd say more like 40%. Then again we are dealing with the dynamics of super population...Greenland is not.

 

[eagle1462010]

Greenland`s literacy rate is 100%.
Ours is 79%.

What is their common sense rate? Hey lets build right in the middle of Volcanoes.

 

[DGS49]

Only idiots ignore solid science or could it be that you just don`t care?

Please provide a coherent answer to the question in bold type. [I know you can't].

 

[Crick]

What is their common sense rate? Hey lets build right in the middle of Volcanoes.

You mean like Pompeii and Vesuvius? Mexican DF and Popocatépetl? Seattle and Mt Baker?

 

[Crick]

There is no measurable rise in sea levels unless you cherry-pick the locations.

But the more fundamental question is never asked. "OK, let's suppose that Greenland's ice melting is a catastrophe. What can 'we' do about it?"

And the answer is NOTHING. Even if everyone in the U.S., Canada, and Western Europe parked their cars, adjusted their thermostats, and took up subsistence farming, it would have no impact on the earth's climate for the next hundred years. You could look it up.

Because the developing world and the third world (2/3 of the earth's population at least) will - and MUST - expand their use of fossil fuels massively in order to raise themselves up, collectively, to the modern era. That means coal-fired power plants, ICE-powered transportation, agricultural, and construction vehicles, and cooking on stoves powered by natural gas, or its equivalent.

We in the developed world will adapt to whatever happens to the climate. We always do. Sea walls will be built around Manhattan island, if necessary, populations will be moved, architecture will be adapted to a warming world. We will survive, nicely.

The faux panic is all about power. It is a campaign by the global Left to give Government total power over the means of production, so that they can control how we live. Joe Biden's ICE bans are just the nose of the camel, so to speak. Only idiots fail to see it.

We can start by accepting facts and global sea level rise is a fact.

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[eagle1462010]

You mean like Pompeii and Vesuvius? Mexican DF and Popocatépetl? Seattle and Mt Baker?

Location Location Location

Should be your first concern

 

[Crick]

Location Location Location

Should be your first concern

Sometimes a mountain is just a mountain, particularly if it hasn't done anything in local memory.

 

[ding]

We can start by accepting facts and global sea level rise is a fact.

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And has been rising since the last glacial maximum. Just like it does in every other interglacial period.

 

[EMH]

We can start by accepting facts and global sea level rise is a fact.

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LOL!!!!

Funny, how you insisted a taxpayer funded color fudge chart is "proof" of anything except that our taxdollars are being wasted to mislead the public.

This is the truth of the "ocean rise," and why it is not happening.... 90% of Earth ice on land mass Antarctica is not melting, but rather growing....

so there is no ongoing net ice melt, because Earth is not warming, in part because Co2 does NOTHING...

Study: Mass gains of Antarctic ice sheet greater than losses â Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

climate.nasa.gov

the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.

The good news is that Antarctica is not currently contributing to sea level rise, but is taking 0.23 millimeters per year away,” Zwally said. “But this is also bad news. If the 0.27 millimeters per year of sea level rise attributed to Antarctica in the IPCC report is not really coming from Antarctica, there must be some

SERIOUS ONGOING TAXPAYER FUNDED FUDGEBAKING FRAUD AT IPCC

 

[Crick]

LOL!!!!

Funny, how you insisted a taxpayer funded color fudge chart is "proof" of anything except that our taxdollars are being wasted to mislead the public.

This is the truth of the "ocean rise," and why it is not happening.... 90% of Earth ice on land mass Antarctica is not melting, but rather growing....

so there is no ongoing net ice melt, because Earth is not warming, in part because Co2 does NOTHING...

Study: Mass gains of Antarctic ice sheet greater than losses â Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

climate.nasa.gov

the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.

The good news is that Antarctica is not currently contributing to sea level rise, but is taking 0.23 millimeters per year away,” Zwally said. “But this is also bad news. If the 0.27 millimeters per year of sea level rise attributed to Antarctica in the IPCC report is not really coming from Antarctica, there must be some

SERIOUS ONGOING TAXPAYER FUNDED FUDGEBAKING FRAUD AT IPCC

Fuck you, you ignorant, lying bigot.

 

[Flash]

Ubiquitous acceleration in Greenland Ice Sheet calving from 1985 to 2022 - Nature

Analysis of more than 236,000 observations of glacier terminus positions shows that accelerated calving reduced the ice area of Greenland by about 5,000 km2 since 1985, producing over 1,000 Gt of freshwater that could influence ocean salinity and circulation.

www.nature.com

Abstract​

Nearly every glacier in Greenland has thinned or retreated over the past few decades1,2,3,4, leading to glacier acceleration, increased rates of sea-level rise and climate impacts around the globe5,6,7,8,9. To understand how calving-front retreat has affected the ice-mass balance of Greenland, we combine 236,328 manually derived and AI-derived observations of glacier terminus positions collected from 1985 to 2022 and generate a 120-m-resolution mask defining the ice-sheet extent every month for nearly four decades. Here we show that, since 1985, the Greenland Ice Sheet (GrIS) has lost 5,091 ± 72 km2 of area, corresponding to 1,034 ± 120 Gt of ice lost to retreat. Our results indicate that, by neglecting calving-front retreat, current consensus estimates of ice-sheet mass balance4,9 have underestimated recent mass loss from Greenland by as much as 20%. The mass loss we report has had minimal direct impact on global sea level but is sufficient to affect ocean circulation and the distribution of heat energy around the globe10,11,12. On seasonal timescales, Greenland loses 193 ± 25 km2 (63 ± 6 Gt) of ice to retreat each year from a maximum extent in May to a minimum between September and October. We find that multidecadal retreat is highly correlated with the magnitude of seasonal advance and retreat of each glacier, meaning that terminus-position variability on seasonal timescales can serve as an indicator of glacier sensitivity to longer-term climate change.

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The more scientists study Greenland, the worse its ice melt looks

A new study found that the loss of ice has been underestimated, adding to a recent string of research that has drawn attention to rapid change in Greenland.

www.nbcnews.com

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The study analyzed satellite images to track retreat and found that the breakup of icebergs has accelerated in Greenland and that previous analyses might have underrated its influence.

“Current consensus estimates of ice-sheet mass balance have underestimated recent mass loss from Greenland by as much as 20%,” the study’s authors wrote. In recent decades, almost every Greenland glacier has thinned or retreated.

The study, which was published Wednesday in the journal Nature, is yet another sign that Greenland’s ice is melting at hastening and concerning rates. Scientists are growing increasingly concerned that the Earth’s warming could trigger tipping points for major ice sheets. Greenland contains about 8% of the world’s freshwater. Its total melt would raise sea levels by almost 7 feet and could change ocean circulation patterns. "

“Current consensus estimates". LOL!

Environmental Wackos making up shit again? Like we see all the time?