OK..GOP candidates suck...so enlighten me...

[uscitizen]

you did not answer the question...

What about Obama did you use to evaluate him to determine that he was the lesser of the two evils?

McCain would have carried on the Bush traditions for sure. Obama I thought not likely to since he was supposedly a democrat.
Of course just my opinions based on my observations as is how we all vote.

btw I think I did answer your question, but perhaps you did not like my answer since it gave you nothing to attack?

No...you still have not answered my question.

SO I will ask it this way...

What of Obama's history did you use to determine he was a better choice?
Just his words?
And I will not attack anyone....I am actually just curoious why you all are so ready to judge a GOP candidate based on their past....but have nothing of Obamas past to justufy your voting for him.

And as for you US citizen...you even admit it...you were wrong about the man.

And that is my point.

Of course I admit I was wrong about Obama. However I was never a real supporter. I just thought him to be the lesser of the evils.
I admitted I was wrong quite soon after he was elected. I did not wait 7 years to admit it. I have been a non supporter of Obama since spring of 09 and have made that clear on here.

Why did I consider him the lesser of the evils?
He was a democrat and what he promised. Get us out of Iraq, close gitmo, etc
I did not want another 4 years of "bush", which I figured McCain to provide, but we got it anyway.
I hope that answers you question, I however did not really say anything different in this post vs the other posts in this thread.

One more point, I never did believe he was going to fix our economic woes in one term. But had he done what needed doing things might have looked up a bit in his second one.

 

[Sarah G]

So you plan on voting for Barack again considering the Republican landscape today?

Absolutely.

I can comfortably say you are a liar. Likely some 35 year old man sitting in his mommys basement in his underwear typing away...

Go for it.

Ha! You keep telling people they aren't answering your question and when someone answers directly you call them a liar..

You are likely the 35 yr. old sitting in the basement. You seem that way.

 

[NoNukes]

Absolutely.

I can comfortably say you are a liar. Likely some 35 year old man sitting in his mommys basement in his underwear typing away...

Go for it.

Ha! You keep telling people they aren't answering your question and when someone answers directly you call them a liar..

You are likely the 35 yr. old sitting in the basement. You seem that way.

He DID apologize.

 

[8537]

They let Bush into graduate school when he did not have the proper credentials, but that had to do with money.

Bush had an undergraduate degree in Economics from Yale.

You don't get a bachelors of science in Econ from Yale by playing pixy stix.

He had a C average.

A "C" average in the econ department at Yale? That puts him above about 99.975% of the population. I don't think I need to explain to folks here how little regard I have for Bush's presidency, but the man is not stupid. He's quite smart, imho. And I do believe his intelligence is unfairly targeted because of his accent and mannerisms.

 

[NoNukes]

Bush had an undergraduate degree in Economics from Yale.

You don't get a bachelors of science in Econ from Yale by playing pixy stix.

He had a C average.

A "C" average in the econ department at Yale? That puts him above about 99.975% of the population.

That does not matter when you apply to graduate school.

 

[uscitizen]

Bush had an undergraduate degree in Economics from Yale.

You don't get a bachelors of science in Econ from Yale by playing pixy stix.

He had a C average.

A "C" average in the econ department at Yale? That puts him above about 99.975% of the population. I don't think I need to explain to folks here how little regard I have for Bush's presidency, but the man is not stupid. He's quite smart, imho. And I do believe his intelligence is unfairly targeted because of his accent and mannerisms.

Bush is quite smart?

Ohh my...

He said he did not like to read and did not like to ponder decisions.

 

[8537]

He had a C average.

A "C" average in the econ department at Yale? That puts him above about 99.975% of the population.

That does not matter when you apply to graduate school.

I'm aware of that. I never said he got into Harvard based on his previous academic record - it's pretty clear that like so many others he was a legacy admittance at Harvard.

 

[8537]

He had a C average.

A "C" average in the econ department at Yale? That puts him above about 99.975% of the population. I don't think I need to explain to folks here how little regard I have for Bush's presidency, but the man is not stupid. He's quite smart, imho. And I do believe his intelligence is unfairly targeted because of his accent and mannerisms.

Bush is quite smart?

Ohh my...

He said he did not like to read and did not like to ponder decisions.

What does that have to do with his intelligence?

 

[uscitizen]

A "C" average in the econ department at Yale? That puts him above about 99.975% of the population. I don't think I need to explain to folks here how little regard I have for Bush's presidency, but the man is not stupid. He's quite smart, imho. And I do believe his intelligence is unfairly targeted because of his accent and mannerisms.

Bush is quite smart?

Ohh my...

He said he did not like to read and did not like to ponder decisions.

What does that have to do with his intelligence?

Unutilized intelligence is not smart.

 

[AmericanFirst]

You have all taken apart all candidates that are running for the GOP nomination. You have educated us as to why Cain is a poor choice...why Bachmann is a hypocrite.....Newt is not worthy....Rommey.....and I can go on and on.

Fine...thank you.

What you have done is reviewed their years in politics, or thier years in business, their years as a privatye citizen, the actions when they were younger, the actions of their spouses...etc..etc...etc...

So now lets go back to 2008.....

Obama had a mere 2 years as a state senator and less than 18 months as a US senator.

He had a very spotty voting record in Illinois...voted present quite often and voted party lines pretty much the rest of the time...so it was difficxult to see what his thought process was
As a US senator, he voted against the surge...something that was successful and he doubled down on when he was President....so that vote was the wrong vote at the time.
The rest of his votes were either present or along party lines....so again, one can not evaluate his thought process.

So what did we want to know about him......

His acadedmic successes....but we were told no...none of our business.
His writings with the law review...we were told none of our business
His relationships with other people...we were told it is irrelevant and that we should not judge him by the actions of his mentors and supporters.....and we are racists if we try to
We asked who his friends are...we were told none of our business (anyone know of ANY friends that he has?)


SO I must ask all of you....you have dug deep to knock and find fault in the GOP runners...

So what of Obama did you evaluate when you opted to vote for him?

That is because they did not want us to know his true past, or that he is a socialist. If we knew the truth, he would be charged with being anti-American if there were a charge for that, too bad there isn't.

 

[Jarhead]

Bush is quite smart?

Ohh my...

He said he did not like to read and did not like to ponder decisions.

What does that have to do with his intelligence?

Unutilized intelligence is not smart.

reading is not the utilization oif intelligence. One does not need to be intelligent to read. Reading is one form, of many, of acquiring information. I emphasize, "of many".

Usually the best way to acquire information is to be face to face with one offering information. You can therefore apply your ability to judge to determine the sincerity of the person and thus the validity of the information.

Unfortuantely, when reading, you are stuck in a two dimnensional world where, for all you know, the person who wrote it was giving the paper the finger saying "fuck you whoever reads this becuase it is all bullshit".

One who is intelligent does not always need to ponder decisions. Many go with their fitst instinct...and I am sure you have heard many times the old saying.....your first instinct is usually the right decision.

So your qualifying him as unintelligent for the reasons you gave does not hold much water.

Personally, I think he was intelligent...one does not get re-elected if they are not intelligent....I also think he had great leadership qualities as was evident by him not giving in to retaliation and allowing the opposition to continually demean him and not allwoing the American People to see a tit for tat fight that we are now seeing Obama allow.

I believe, in the end, history will be quite kind to him....and deservingly so.

 

[Harry Dresden]

with phil Gram as their economic adviser of choice we would have been a third world country.

some parts of S.California are just about there.....and Phil Gramm had Jack Shit to do with that....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Obama has disapointed me repetedly but a republican ( in todays world) would mean disastor.

how is that any different then the disaster we are in now?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

As a person, I thought Bush had a good sense of humor, he had a way with people and he never meant to hurt anyone. He simply wasn't up to the job.

sorry Sara.....i dont think this guy is either......

 

[8537]

Bush is quite smart?

Ohh my...

He said he did not like to read and did not like to ponder decisions.

What does that have to do with his intelligence?

Unutilized intelligence is not smart.

far be it from me to staunchly defend the former president...

All I'm saying is that a person who graduates from Yale University (one of the top schools in the nation) with a degree in a complex field such as Economics is not stupid.

 

[Unkotare]

Being a life long (62 years) republican .

You

Fucking

Liar

 

[HUGGY]

Being a life long (62 years) republican .

You

Fucking

Liar

Piss on you ...you insignificant tramp!! You wouldn't know a real republican if he snapped your pimple faced marble filled head from your shoulders and shit down your neck hole. My dogs don't make any sounds unless they are drawing something important to my attention. That makes them a hell of a lot smarter than you. Not that it will slow down your stupidity but the truth is that you are way out of your league. You should really try to stick to the kiddie pool... the deep end is full of peril.

 

[Caroljo]

Being a life long (62 years) republican .

You

Fucking

Liar

Piss on you ...you insignificant tramp!! You wouldn't know a real republican if he snapped your pimple faced marble filled head from your shoulders and shit down your neck hole. My dogs don't make any sounds unless they are drawing something important to my attention. That makes them a hell of a lot smarter than you. Not that it will slow down your stupidity but the truth is that you are way out of your league. You should really try to stick to the kiddie pool... the deep end is full of peril.

How did that rant prove that you aren't a liar???

 

[HUGGY]

You

Fucking

Liar

Piss on you ...you insignificant tramp!! You wouldn't know a real republican if he snapped your pimple faced marble filled head from your shoulders and shit down your neck hole. My dogs don't make any sounds unless they are drawing something important to my attention. That makes them a hell of a lot smarter than you. Not that it will slow down your stupidity but the truth is that you are way out of your league. You should really try to stick to the kiddie pool... the deep end is full of peril.

How did that rant prove that you aren't a liar???

This is the internet sugar tits. Try to keep that in mind. I don't answer to imbeciles. It is a stupid statement on the fuckwits part and an even less enlightened follow up on yours. I've stated on numerous occasions that My family as long as I have been alive including my grandparents and parents have all been republicans. That was long before the face of the party has been altered to represent a bunch of moron hypocritical lying christian fundamentalist fascists. Just because my values have not changed and the party was stolen from true conservatives does not make me not a republican. The troop of clowns now seeking the GOP nomination would be laughed at by Eisenhower or Goldwater...even Nixon would be disgusted with this recent crop of GOP fuckwits. Do you really think Sarah Palin would have been taken seriously in the 60's? Even Regan would have been bitchslapped and told to shut the fuck up by Goldwater. These "recent" republicans are a disgrace to the republicans I knew. They are liars and thieves. I am under no obligation to support them.

 

[Unkotare]

Being a life long (62 years) republican .

You

Fucking

Liar

Piss on you ...you insignificant tramp!! You wouldn't know a real republican if he snapped your pimple faced marble filled head from your shoulders and shit down your neck hole. My dogs don't make any sounds unless they are drawing something important to my attention. That makes them a hell of a lot smarter than you. Not that it will slow down your stupidity but the truth is that you are way out of your league. You should really try to stick to the kiddie pool... the deep end is full of peril.

Trying to play it 'tough' grandpa? Take out any pimps and hookers today with your aluminum walker of doom? Careful you don't break your hip trying to sling so much bullshit ol' fella.

Stop trying to sell your incredibly transparent "I'm a Republican! Really!" lie or there will be no pudding for you after Bingo tonight.