None Dare Call It What It Is...

[alang1216]

Morality is an absolute. It comes from God, and never changes.

Really? Is slavery evil? Should we kill adulterers and stubborn and rebellious children? What about non-believers?

All these things are commanded by God in the old or new testament and, since morality never changes, you must want to make them the law. Correct?

These are the commandments from your bible....

"Hang at least 100 hostages, execute the kulaks, do it in such a way that people for hundreds of miles around will see and tremble." Lenin ... He took power in 1917.

b. "Nobody knows how many were people were killed...we're talking about10 million or more..."
Norman Davies, Historian, Cambridge University.

Since you are unable to answer my questions and instead choose to deflect here is a quote from your bible:

• “I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty.” - A. Hitler

 

[alang1216]

Moral relativism is a cancer.

Yet it is the ONLY morality we have and is just as real as cancer. You may not like either but you don't get to wish up your own reality.

Acknowledging reality is not wishing. YOU are the one who refuses to face it. Every action that is harmful to oneself and others is the exact opposite of what Jesus taught. You cannot give me one example that refutes this simple fact.

Luke 19:27 King James Version (KJV)
27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Morality is an absolute. It comes from God, and never changes.

Really? Is slavery evil? Should we kill adulterers and stubborn and rebellious children? What about non-believers?

All these things are commanded by God in the old or new testament and, since morality never changes, you must want to make them the law. Correct?

These are the commandments from your bible....

"Hang at least 100 hostages, execute the kulaks, do it in such a way that people for hundreds of miles around will see and tremble." Lenin ... He took power in 1917.

b. "Nobody knows how many were people were killed...we're talking about10 million or more..."
Norman Davies, Historian, Cambridge University.

Since you are unable to answer my questions and instead choose to deflect here is a quote from your bible:

• “I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty.” - A. Hitler

No, my bible is the Bible.

Any readers of your posts will recognize you as a cultural Marxist, and so my post is correct.

Yours is the usual sort of lie that one expects from your ilk.

 

[RWNJ]

Moral relativism is a cancer.

Yet it is the ONLY morality we have and is just as real as cancer. You may not like either but you don't get to wish up your own reality.

Acknowledging reality is not wishing. YOU are the one who refuses to face it. Every action that is harmful to oneself and others is the exact opposite of what Jesus taught. You cannot give me one example that refutes this simple fact.

Luke 19:27 King James Version (KJV)
27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

You really are pathetic, as well as willfully ignorant. This was a parable. You do know what those are, right? Maybe this will enlighten you. Then again, probably not. If not, I'm sure others will find it informative. You, on the other hand, are beyond any hope of redemption, because you have rejected God and actively work against Him, as your posts on here so amply demonstrate.

But those mine enemies,.... Meaning particularly the Jews, who were enemies to the person of Christ, and hated and rejected him, as the King Messiah; and rebelled against him, and would not submit to his government; and were enemies to his people, and were exceeding mad against them, and persecuted them; and to his Gospel, and the distinguishing truths of it, and to his ordinances, which they rejected against themselves:

which would not that I should reign over them; see Luke 19:14

bring hither, and slay them before me; which had its accomplishment in the destruction of Jerusalem, when multitudes of them were slain with the sword, both with their own, and with their enemies; and to this the parable has a special respect, and of which Christ more largely discourses in this chapter; see Luke 19:41 though it is true of all natural men, that they are enemies to Christ; and so of all negligent and slothful professors, and ministers of the word, who, when Christ shall come a second time, of which his coming to destroy the Jewish nation was an emblem and pledge, will be punished with everlasting destruction by him; and then all other enemies will be slain and destroyed, sin, Satan, the world, and death: of the first of these the Jews say (n),

"in the time to come the holy, blessed God, will bring forth the evil imagination (or corruption of nature), "and slay it before" the righteous, and the wicked.''

 

[alang1216]

Moral relativism is a cancer.

Yet it is the ONLY morality we have and is just as real as cancer. You may not like either but you don't get to wish up your own reality.

Acknowledging reality is not wishing. YOU are the one who refuses to face it. Every action that is harmful to oneself and others is the exact opposite of what Jesus taught. You cannot give me one example that refutes this simple fact.

Luke 19:27 King James Version (KJV)
27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

You really are pathetic, as well as willfully ignorant. This was a parable. You do know what those are, right? Maybe this will enlighten you. Then again, probably not. If not, I'm sure others will find it informative. You, on the other hand, are beyond any hope of redemption, because you have rejected God and actively work against Him, as your posts on here so amply demonstrate.

But those mine enemies,.... Meaning particularly the Jews, who were enemies to the person of Christ, and hated and rejected him, as the King Messiah; and rebelled against him, and would not submit to his government; and were enemies to his people, and were exceeding mad against them, and persecuted them; and to his Gospel, and the distinguishing truths of it, and to his ordinances, which they rejected against themselves:

which would not that I should reign over them; see Luke 19:14

bring hither, and slay them before me; which had its accomplishment in the destruction of Jerusalem, when multitudes of them were slain with the sword, both with their own, and with their enemies; and to this the parable has a special respect, and of which Christ more largely discourses in this chapter; see Luke 19:41 though it is true of all natural men, that they are enemies to Christ; and so of all negligent and slothful professors, and ministers of the word, who, when Christ shall come a second time, of which his coming to destroy the Jewish nation was an emblem and pledge, will be punished with everlasting destruction by him; and then all other enemies will be slain and destroyed, sin, Satan, the world, and death: of the first of these the Jews say (n),

"in the time to come the holy, blessed God, will bring forth the evil imagination (or corruption of nature), "and slay it before" the righteous, and the wicked.''

Actually I do know what a parable is, it is a message hidden in a story. So maybe you could help me interpret Luke 19:27? The next verse has Jesus going to Jerusalem to be recognized as king (Luke 19:38). Seems to me that Jesus is that man of noble birth (Luke 19:12): "A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king". I stand by my interpretation unless you have a better one.

 

[BS Filter]

Moral relativism is a cancer.

Yet it is the ONLY morality we have and is just as real as cancer. You may not like either but you don't get to wish up your own reality.

Acknowledging reality is not wishing. YOU are the one who refuses to face it. Every action that is harmful to oneself and others is the exact opposite of what Jesus taught. You cannot give me one example that refutes this simple fact.

Luke 19:27 King James Version (KJV)
27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Now that's a good example of how unbelievers take a verse out of the Scriptures and twist it. You know as well as I that Jesus was telling a parable. He certainly was not teaching his followers to go out and slay people for him. You have Jesus confused with Mohammed.

 

[BS Filter]

Yet it is the ONLY morality we have and is just as real as cancer. You may not like either but you don't get to wish up your own reality.

Acknowledging reality is not wishing. YOU are the one who refuses to face it. Every action that is harmful to oneself and others is the exact opposite of what Jesus taught. You cannot give me one example that refutes this simple fact.

Luke 19:27 King James Version (KJV)
27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

You really are pathetic, as well as willfully ignorant. This was a parable. You do know what those are, right? Maybe this will enlighten you. Then again, probably not. If not, I'm sure others will find it informative. You, on the other hand, are beyond any hope of redemption, because you have rejected God and actively work against Him, as your posts on here so amply demonstrate.

But those mine enemies,.... Meaning particularly the Jews, who were enemies to the person of Christ, and hated and rejected him, as the King Messiah; and rebelled against him, and would not submit to his government; and were enemies to his people, and were exceeding mad against them, and persecuted them; and to his Gospel, and the distinguishing truths of it, and to his ordinances, which they rejected against themselves:

which would not that I should reign over them; see Luke 19:14

bring hither, and slay them before me; which had its accomplishment in the destruction of Jerusalem, when multitudes of them were slain with the sword, both with their own, and with their enemies; and to this the parable has a special respect, and of which Christ more largely discourses in this chapter; see Luke 19:41 though it is true of all natural men, that they are enemies to Christ; and so of all negligent and slothful professors, and ministers of the word, who, when Christ shall come a second time, of which his coming to destroy the Jewish nation was an emblem and pledge, will be punished with everlasting destruction by him; and then all other enemies will be slain and destroyed, sin, Satan, the world, and death: of the first of these the Jews say (n),

"in the time to come the holy, blessed God, will bring forth the evil imagination (or corruption of nature), "and slay it before" the righteous, and the wicked.''

Actually I do know what a parable is, it is a message hidden in a story. So maybe you could help me interpret Luke 19:27? The next verse has Jesus going to Jerusalem to be recognized as king (Luke 19:38). Seems to me that Jesus is that man of noble birth (Luke 19:12): "A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king". I stand by my interpretation unless you have a better one.

Yes, I have a better one. Those who do not want Jesus to reign over their lives will end up in eternal separation from God.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Moral relativism is a cancer.

Yet it is the ONLY morality we have and is just as real as cancer. You may not like either but you don't get to wish up your own reality.

Acknowledging reality is not wishing. YOU are the one who refuses to face it. Every action that is harmful to oneself and others is the exact opposite of what Jesus taught. You cannot give me one example that refutes this simple fact.

Luke 19:27 King James Version (KJV)
27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Now that's a good example of how unbelievers take a verse out of the Scriptures and twist it. You know as well as I that Jesus was telling a parable. He certainly was not teaching his followers to go out and slay people for him. You have Jesus confused with Mohammed.

The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
Shakespeare

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

1. Evil, that is.

In fact, in secular society, very few even dare use the term; it's archaic, it's abstruse....it's.....religious.


But it exists.


“The world turns and the world changes,
But one thing does not change.
In all of my years, one thing does not change,
However you disguise it, this thing does not change:
The perpetual struggle of Good and Evil.” T. S. Eliot



2. "In enlightened political conversation, the word 'evil' had been disreputable for a long time-..... The word “evil,” in many minds, |smacks of an atavistic, superstitious, and even medieval simplism, of a fundamentalist mindset that might be inclined to in witches or to reject the teachings of evoluiton in the public schools.

The secular, educated, cosmopolitan instinct...tends to shun the word 'evil' and, as an optimist and creature of the Enlightenment, approaches the world's horrors as individual problems that can be solved...."
Lance Morrow, "Evil: An Investigation,"p.12-13


"Evil has made a successful career over many centuries by persuading people that it does not exist."




3. Did I mention that the fear of being labeled as 'religious' has caused some fearful folks to make some sort of humor out of the term.

"The sixties' rebellion against authority introduced the idea of Satan as rock star..

...Many people do not believe evil exists..... The trouble comes in trying to understand evil. When people become frustrated in their effort to do so, they are inclined to say that because they do not understand evil, it does not exist- a....fallacy based on the thought that what I do not understand cannot be real."
Op.Cit., p. 3-4




But it is here, it does exist....and it plays a mighty role in the course of human activity.

Then why do you love Jews, if you hate evil?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

1. Evil, that is.
But it is here, it does exist....and it plays a mighty role in the course of human activity.

Look an evil man having sex with an adult star after his wife had a baby...Evil

Tabloid Withheld Interview After Threat from Trump
January 19, 2018

“A tabloid magazine held back from publishing an adult film star’s 2011 account of an alleged affair with Donald Trump after the future president’s personal lawyer threatened to sue, the Associated Press reports.

“In Touch magazine published its 5,000-word interview with the pornographic actor Stormy Daniels on Friday — more than six years after Trump’s long-time attorney, Michael Cohen, sent an email to In Touch’s general counsel saying Trump would aggressively pursue legal action if the story was printed.”

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
Shakespeare

I don't know about the devil quoting but I can quote LOL ...its not good for the GOP ... GOP its like sepulcher white marble on the outside death and corruption inside

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Evil, that is.
But it is here, it does exist....and it plays a mighty role in the course of human activity.

Look an evil man having sex with an adult star after his wife had a baby...Evil

Tabloid Withheld Interview After Threat from Trump
January 19, 2018

“A tabloid magazine held back from publishing an adult film star’s 2011 account of an alleged affair with Donald Trump after the future president’s personal lawyer threatened to sue, the Associated Press reports.

“In Touch magazine published its 5,000-word interview with the pornographic actor Stormy Daniels on Friday — more than six years after Trump’s long-time attorney, Michael Cohen, sent an email to In Touch’s general counsel saying Trump would aggressively pursue legal action if the story was printed.”

Let's skip the gossip and post real evil:


1. Being a war criminal....Obama
What makes him a war criminal?
Awarding nuclear weapons to the world's worst state sponsor of terrorism.
But....there is hope:

a. "Human rights lawyers say they hope the case signals a trend. In Europe's growing practice of domestic courts' taking on human rights abuses that happened far away, the accused havecommonly been foreign military or political officials, rather than local businessmen. But in December, a Dutch court sentenced a Dutch businessman, Frans van Anraat, to 15 years in prison for selling chemicals to Saddam Hussein. The chemicals were used in poison gas weapons that killed Kurdish villagers."
Holding arms dealers accountable at home


b. "....the provision of arms, ammunition, and other forms of military support to known human rights abusers has enabled them to carry out atrocities against civilians. The perpetrators of war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide are on notice that they may be hauled before a national or international criminal tribunal to face charges."
https://www.hrw.org/legacy/wr2k4/download/13.pdf



c. Dutch Court Convicts Arms Dealer for Role in Liberian Atrocities.

".... an appeals court in the Netherlands sentenced Guus Kouwenhoven, a Dutch businessman and citizen, to 19 years in prison for serving as an accessory to war crimes in Liberia. For years, Kouwenhoven smuggled weapons into the African nation using his timber business as cover. His operation supplied Liberian war criminal Charles Taylor with weapons for use in a conflict that claimed hundreds of thousands of lives."
Dutch Court Convicts Arms Dealer for Role in Liberian Atrocities. What Does It Say About Justice for Economic Crime?

I am soooooo looking forward to Hussein Obama in an orange jump-suit.....







2. Obama OK'd Hezbollah selling drugs to American kids.
Now....it turns out that in the battle to get Nuclear weapons to Iran, he made certain that Hezbollah was allowed to sell drugs in America.

"Politico: Obama Let Hezbollah Run Cocaine Into The US For Iran Deal — And More
...the previous administration colluded with Iran to let terrorists and drug dealers go free in order to score one of the worst deals ever in international relations.

...the DEA had a major operation called Project Cassandra. This operation had identified Hezbollah as a major supplier of cocaine to the US and other countries, along with its usual terrorist activities on behalf of its sponsors in Tehran.

... Obama administration stepped in to drain it of all resources, just to protect its deal with Iran..."
Politico: Obama let Hezbollah run cocaine into the US for Iran deal - and more - Hot Air



And the most stupid among us voted for this individual....

....twice.

...and a drug lord.



Drugs Involved in U.S. Overdose Deaths* - Among the more than 64,000 drug overdose deaths estimated in 2016, the sharpest increase occurred among deaths related to fentanyl and fentanyl analogs (synthetic opioids) with over 20,000 overdose deaths. Source: CDC WONDER

Overdose Death Rates

 

[PoliticalChic]

The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
Shakespeare

I don't know about the devil quoting but I can quote LOL ...its not good for the GOP ... GOP its like sepulcher white marble on the outside death and corruption inside

A war criminal and a drug dealer....that's 'evil.'
You, you're just stupid.


I put you in your place again,huh?

Ripped both you and your god, Obama, a new one.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

I put you in your place again,huh?
.

sure you did ...you are just an ace ....bwuaaahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha

 

[BS Filter]

The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
Shakespeare

I don't know about the devil quoting but I can quote LOL ...its not good for the GOP ... GOP its like sepulcher white marble on the outside death and corruption inside

A war criminal and a drug dealer....that's 'evil.'
You, you're just stupid.


I put you in your place again,huh?

Ripped both you and your god, Obama, a new one.

I think we're dealing with some mental illness with this one.

 

[JoeB131]

1. Evil, that is.

In fact, in secular society, very few even dare use the term; it's archaic, it's abstruse....it's.....religious.

It subjective.

In the bible, "Evil" was things as working on the Sabbath and having the wrong kind of sex, which often resulted in the death penalty for the offender.

MEANWHILE, truly evil things like genocide and slavery were considered "moral" in the bible, when you were doing it to the other guy, anyway.

3. Did I mention that the fear of being labeled as 'religious' has caused some fearful folks to make some sort of humor out of the term.

"The sixties' rebellion against authority introduced the idea of Satan as rock star..

You see, here's the problem. I read the bible, and frankly, I'm still trying to figure out how Satan is the evil character in the story. Besides the fact he doesn't even appear in the story until the end, and only tangentally, all the real evil stuff in the bible is done by God

Drowning every person in the world- God.
Killing everyone in Sodom and Gomorroah - God.
Killing every first born child in Egypt - God.
Making the Israelites wander around in the desert for 40 years until they all died of old age? - God.
Making Jephthah butcher and burn his only daughter because he made foolish oath - God.
Killing King David's Baby because his parents sinned? - God.
Sending two bears to maul 42 children because they made fun of a bald prophet? - God.

I could come up with a longer list of evil things God does in the Bible, but I think that suffices.

Now, let's look at our Rock Star, Satan.

He kills 10 people- the children of Job, on a bet with God that if bad things happen in Job's life, Job will curse God.

That's it. That's kind of the extent of Satan's evil in the Bible. That and he told David to do a Census. Or maybe God told David to do that Census.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
Shakespeare

I don't know about the devil quoting but I can quote LOL ...its not good for the GOP ... GOP its like sepulcher white marble on the outside death and corruption inside

A war criminal and a drug dealer....that's 'evil.'
You, you're just stupid.


I put you in your place again,huh?

Ripped both you and your god, Obama, a new one.

I think we're dealing with some mental illness with this one.

It seems to be a requirement for his political perspective.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I put you in your place again,huh?
.

sure you did ...you are just an ace ....bwuaaahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha

I sure did unless you can show any errors in this:


1. Being a war criminal....Obama
What makes him a war criminal?
Awarding nuclear weapons to the world's worst state sponsor of terrorism.
But....there is hope:

a. "Human rights lawyers say they hope the case signals a trend. In Europe's growing practice of domestic courts' taking on human rights abuses that happened far away, the accused havecommonly been foreign military or political officials, rather than local businessmen. But in December, a Dutch court sentenced a Dutch businessman, Frans van Anraat, to 15 years in prison for selling chemicals to Saddam Hussein. The chemicals were used in poison gas weapons that killed Kurdish villagers."
Holding arms dealers accountable at home


b. "....the provision of arms, ammunition, and other forms of military support to known human rights abusers has enabled them to carry out atrocities against civilians. The perpetrators of war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide are on notice that they may be hauled before a national or international criminal tribunal to face charges."
https://www.hrw.org/legacy/wr2k4/download/13.pdf



c. Dutch Court Convicts Arms Dealer for Role in Liberian Atrocities.

".... an appeals court in the Netherlands sentenced Guus Kouwenhoven, a Dutch businessman and citizen, to 19 years in prison for serving as an accessory to war crimes in Liberia. For years, Kouwenhoven smuggled weapons into the African nation using his timber business as cover. His operation supplied Liberian war criminal Charles Taylor with weapons for use in a conflict that claimed hundreds of thousands of lives."
Dutch Court Convicts Arms Dealer for Role in Liberian Atrocities. What Does It Say About Justice for Economic Crime?

I am soooooo looking forward to Hussein Obama in an orange jump-suit.....







2. Obama OK'd Hezbollah selling drugs to American kids.
Now....it turns out that in the battle to get Nuclear weapons to Iran, he made certain that Hezbollah was allowed to sell drugs in America.

"Politico: Obama Let Hezbollah Run Cocaine Into The US For Iran Deal — And More
...the previous administration colluded with Iran to let terrorists and drug dealers go free in order to score one of the worst deals ever in international relations.

...the DEA had a major operation called Project Cassandra. This operation had identified Hezbollah as a major supplier of cocaine to the US and other countries, along with its usual terrorist activities on behalf of its sponsors in Tehran.

... Obama administration stepped in to drain it of all resources, just to protect its deal with Iran..."
Politico: Obama let Hezbollah run cocaine into the US for Iran deal - and more - Hot Air



And the most stupid among us voted for this individual....

....twice.

...and a drug lord.



Drugs Involved in U.S. Overdose Deaths* - Among the more than 64,000 drug overdose deaths estimated in 2016, the sharpest increase occurred among deaths related to fentanyl and fentanyl analogs (synthetic opioids) with over 20,000 overdose deaths. Source: CDC WONDER

Overdose Death Rates

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

I think we're dealing with some mental illness with this one.

I will wish you Happy Holidays and turn you into a cry baby LOL

 

[alang1216]

Actually I do know what a parable is, it is a message hidden in a story. So maybe you could help me interpret Luke 19:27? The next verse has Jesus going to Jerusalem to be recognized as king (Luke 19:38). Seems to me that Jesus is that man of noble birth (Luke 19:12): "A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king". I stand by my interpretation unless you have a better one.

Yes, I have a better one. Those who do not want Jesus to reign over their lives will end up in eternal separation from God.

The beauty of God and religion is that we will never know who is right (at least in this life).