NATO Countries Pour Weapons Into Ukraine, Risking Conflict With Russia

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Well now..might not be the walkover that Putin envisioned...but..is that a good thing?

NATO Countries Pour Weapons Into Ukraine, Risking Conflict With Russia

The Dutch are sending rocket launchers for air defense. The Estonians are sending Javelin antitank missiles. The Poles and the Latvians are sending Stinger surface-to-air missiles. The Czechs are sending machine guns, sniper rifles, pistols and ammunition.

© Lithuanian Ministry of Defense, via Associated Press Lithuanian forces loading Stinger anti-aircraft systems and body armor bound for Ukraine, in a photograph provided by Lithuania’s defense ministry.
Even formerly neutral countries like Sweden and Finland are sending weapons. And Germany, long allergic to sending weapons into conflict zones, is sending Stingers as well as other shoulder-launched rockets.
In all, about 20 countries — most members of NATO and the European Union, but not all — are funneling arms into Ukraine to fight off Russian invaders and arm an insurgency, if the war comes to that.
At the same time, NATO is moving military equipment and as many as 22,000 more troops into member states bordering Russia and Belarus, to reassure them and enhance deterrence.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine has brought European countries together as never before, minds concentrated by the larger threat to European security presented by the Russia of President Vladimir V. Putin.

 

[Donald H]

It might be fine as long as America keeps checking in with Putin to make sure he's still o.k. with the war rules.

I can see either Russia or America stepping out of bounds here and then causing a big fuss at the UN!

 

[White 6]

Well now..might not be the walkover that Putin envisioned...but..is that a good thing?

NATO Countries Pour Weapons Into Ukraine, Risking Conflict With Russia

The Dutch are sending rocket launchers for air defense. The Estonians are sending Javelin antitank missiles. The Poles and the Latvians are sending Stinger surface-to-air missiles. The Czechs are sending machine guns, sniper rifles, pistols and ammunition.

© Lithuanian Ministry of Defense, via Associated Press Lithuanian forces loading Stinger anti-aircraft systems and body armor bound for Ukraine, in a photograph provided by Lithuania’s defense ministry.
Even formerly neutral countries like Sweden and Finland are sending weapons. And Germany, long allergic to sending weapons into conflict zones, is sending Stingers as well as other shoulder-launched rockets.
In all, about 20 countries — most members of NATO and the European Union, but not all — are funneling arms into Ukraine to fight off Russian invaders and arm an insurgency, if the war comes to that.
At the same time, NATO is moving military equipment and as many as 22,000 more troops into member states bordering Russia and Belarus, to reassure them and enhance deterrence.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine has brought European countries together as never before, minds concentrated by the larger threat to European security presented by the Russia of President Vladimir V. Putin.

Yes. It is a good thing to supply the means of resistance to the good Ukrainian people defending their home from the evil of Russian aggression to take over their country.

 

[Donald H]

Yes. It is a good thing to supply the means of resistance to the good Ukrainian people defending their home from the evil of Russian aggression to take over their country.

Agreed! It's fine as long as Putin plays by the rules. Do the rules say that it's o.k. to send a cruise missile to the airport?

 

[White 6]

Agreed! It's fine as long as Putin plays by the rules. Do the rules say that it's o.k. to send a cruise missile to the airport?

Why do you ask? Putin has not, is not and will not play by the rules in his effort to subjugate the people and government of Ukraine.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Yes. It is a good thing to supply the means of resistance to the good Ukrainian people defending their home from the evil of Russian aggression to take over their country.

Sure..but you do realize that this is enough to get the Ukraine into more trouble..but not even close enough to get Putin to back off? the tougher the resistance...the more Putin dips into his warbag~

 

[Muhammed]

Well now..might not be the walkover that Putin envisioned...but..is that a good thing?

NATO Countries Pour Weapons Into Ukraine, Risking Conflict With Russia

The Dutch are sending rocket launchers for air defense. The Estonians are sending Javelin antitank missiles. The Poles and the Latvians are sending Stinger surface-to-air missiles. The Czechs are sending machine guns, sniper rifles, pistols and ammunition.

© Lithuanian Ministry of Defense, via Associated Press Lithuanian forces loading Stinger anti-aircraft systems and body armor bound for Ukraine, in a photograph provided by Lithuania’s defense ministry.
Even formerly neutral countries like Sweden and Finland are sending weapons. And Germany, long allergic to sending weapons into conflict zones, is sending Stingers as well as other shoulder-launched rockets.
In all, about 20 countries — most members of NATO and the European Union, but not all — are funneling arms into Ukraine to fight off Russian invaders and arm an insurgency, if the war comes to that.
At the same time, NATO is moving military equipment and as many as 22,000 more troops into member states bordering Russia and Belarus, to reassure them and enhance deterrence.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine has brought European countries together as never before, minds concentrated by the larger threat to European security presented by the Russia of President Vladimir V. Putin.

Fuck Russia!

 

[Donald H]

Why do you ask? Putin has not, is not and will not play by the rules in his effort to subjugate the people and government of Ukraine.

You don't understand what 'not' playing by the rules mean. Make no mistake, Putin is playing by the rules and he's even giving Ukraine advance warning of when he decides to take out a broadcasting building.

And so far at least, America is playing strictly by the rules, as long as it's mutually agreeable what the rules say.

Has it been cleared with Putin yet if it's o.k. to send in advanced weaponry that's capable of taking out his helicopters and tanks? And what if it's not and he decides to shoot down an American transport aircraft?

I don't have a good feeling about this war, even though Biden said clearly that it's not America's war!

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Yes. It is a good thing to supply the means of resistance to the good Ukrainian people defending their home from the evil of Russian aggression to take over their country.

Absolutely. And it's good to see European neighbors stepping up and helping slap Vlad on his balding head.

 

[mamooth]

Putin wants the whole Russian empire restored, which is quite a bit bigger than the Soviet Union was. He doesn't want to absorb it all into Russia, but he wants to make Russia control it completely through cooperative puppet governments. He's had success with Belarus and central asia. The plan was to extend to eastern europe too. Ukraine blocked him.

The USA needs to not have any boots on the ground. That kind of escalation would give Putin more excuses to escalate, possibly to nuclear weapons use. That's bad. Avoid that.

And for historical reasons, German troops needs to stay far away.

But sending weapons and supplies, that's good. Eastern european nations could send troops to fight. Volunteers from any nations can go.

The strategy is to hold back the invasion while destroying the Russian economy, to make it too painful for them to keep fighting.

 

[Donald H]

Sure..but you do realize that this is enough to get the Ukraine into more trouble..but not even close enough to get Putin to back off? the tougher the resistance...the more Putin dips into his warbag~

You get it!
But no American is supposed to get it!
White has the right talking point down pat!

 

[JohnDB]

With anti Russian sentiment growing and NATO's resolve firming up against Putin...

He may NOT be the only one who has his finger on the Nuclear trigger. Just saying.

 

[White 6]

Sure..but you do realize that this is enough to get the Ukraine into more trouble..but not even close enough to get Putin to back off? the tougher the resistance...the more Putin dips into his warbag~

There isn't much more trouble Ukraine can get into, certainly not in trouble with the world, as they are universally viewed as the victim. I say give the Ukrainians anything they need to fight to refuse capitulation to the aggressor nation Russian, and its tyrannical despotic, war criminal leader, Putin.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Too bad Joe Biden doesn't give a crap about America's borders they way he does for the Ukraine.

There is an election ad that writes itself.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

There isn't much more trouble Ukraine can get into, certainly not in trouble with the world, as they are universally viewed as the victim. I say give the Ukrainians anything they need to fight to refuse capitulation to the aggressor nation Russian, and its tyrannical despotic, war criminal leader, Putin.

Next fight for Ukraine: Their tremendous corruption problem.
One thing at a time though, I suppose.

 

[Donald H]

Putin wants the whole Russian empire restored, which is quite a bit bigger than the Soviet Union was.

Well that's exactly what you've been told to think!
But isn't it a bit over the top to think that he could?
I think he'll be able to take the Ukraine but after that, who knows?
losing the Ukraine is going to be much too big of a strategic loss for America to accept.

Ongoing resistance fighting in Ukraine?
Putin backing off to only the Donbass provinces where there won't be any resistance?

 

[White 6]

You don't understand what 'not' playing by the rules mean. Make no mistake, Putin is playing by the rules and he's even giving Ukraine advance warning of when he decides to take out a broadcasting building.

And so far at least, America is playing strictly by the rules, as long as it's mutually agreeable what the rules say.

Has it been cleared with Putin yet if it's o.k. to send in advanced weaponry that's capable of taking out his helicopters and tanks? And what if it's not and he decides to shoot down an American transport aircraft?

I don't have a good feeling about this war, even though Biden said clearly that it's not America's war!

Never a good feeling about war. It is what it is. I do not think Vlad wants to invite NATO and the US directly into armed conflict. It would not be in his or his countries best interests.

 

[blackhawk]

If they had been doing this while Putin was massing troops on the border it might have dissuaded him from ever goin in.

 

[Donald H]

With anti Russian sentiment growing and NATO's resolve firming up against Putin...

He may NOT be the only one who has his finger on the Nuclear trigger. Just saying.

No doubt!
Who would believe Biden when he says that America hasn't upped it to the highest level of alert with the nuclear arsenal?

That's a double whopper with cheese!

 

[Donald H]

Never a good feeling about war. It is what it is. I do not think Vlad wants to invite NATO and the US directly into armed conflict. It would not be in his or his countries best interests.

It's more than just Putin's best interests White!
Stop thinking armchair war and face the reality of the situation.