My take on Sanders voters.

About 50 percent. Now it's not my first time here so I'll immediately ask you this. Do you believe that the money you make is any less gone if you have to use it for things that are provided to me out of those taxes?

To use an example I've heard Bernie use. If you have to spend your money on deductibles, co-pays, and insurance premiums and I cover my health expenses out of the taxes I pay. Isn't the rational way to look at it just comparing which is cheaper and covers the most?
Thanks for the information. So you think we should go with Bernie and give the Federal government half of our paycheck.
That's not how this works. So far I answered all the questions you asked. You can not refuse to answer mine and just keep on adding new questions so.
To use an example I've heard Bernie use. If you have to spend your money on deductibles, co-pays, and insurance premiums and I cover my health expenses out of the taxes I pay. Isn't the rational way to look at it just comparing which is cheaper and covers the most?
Answer this, please.
I don't know too many Americans who want to give the Federal government half of their paycheck. You probably use public transportation. I hear gasoline is pretty expensive. So how long do you have to wait for an operation if you need one?
I notice you do everything but answering my question. You want to have a conversation I'm in but if you don't feel under any obligation to answer me and at the same time just keep on piling in other questions it is not a conversation but an interrogation and that's boring so again.
To use an example I've heard Bernie use. If you have to spend your money on deductibles, co-pays, and insurance premiums and I cover my health expenses out of the taxes I pay. Isn't the rational way to look at it just comparing which is cheaper and covers the most?
Can you please stop dodging? It's not a hard question.
I'm not dodging. I have healthcare because I paid for it. I expect every adult to pay for their own insurance. Tell me why I should give the government half my paycheck.
By the way, I paid for my own insurance. I paid taxes. This is where you guys seem to disconnect. It seems that you guys are unable to recognize that taxes are not punishment but a payment for services provided. And like with any payment I simply want the best deal.
 
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Lazy:
Want something for nothing or very little effort.

Freeloaders:
Want others to pay for their things.

Uneducated:
Don't understand the ramifications of giving the government the kind of power he proposes.

Economically illiterate:
Don't truly understand the value of a dollar or the gratification that comes from earning it and working your way up the ladder.

Lack life skills and ambition:
Need the government to manage their daily lives.




I know this likely comes off as an insult but that's how I see it. No point in trying to polish a turd least it rub off on me.
They have little understanding of what they are supporting.

MUSSOLINI MADE THE TRAINS RUNS ON TIME, BERNIE SANDERS EDITION: It’s not surprising that Bernie still sympathizes with Communist Cuba, but it is remarkable that he doesn’t seem to either recognize or care that this sort of thing is politically deadly, especially in Florida.
 
Lazy:
Want something for nothing or very little effort.

Freeloaders:
Want others to pay for their things.

Uneducated:
Don't understand the ramifications of giving the government the kind of power he proposes.

Economically illiterate:
Don't truly understand the value of a dollar or the gratification that comes from earning it and working your way up the ladder.

Lack life skills and ambition:
Need the government to manage their daily lives.




I know this likely comes off as an insult but that's how I see it. No point in trying to polish a turd least it rub off on me.
They have little understanding of what they are supporting.

MUSSOLINI MADE THE TRAINS RUNS ON TIME, BERNIE SANDERS EDITION: It’s not surprising that Bernie still sympathizes with Communist Cuba, but it is remarkable that he doesn’t seem to either recognize or care that this sort of thing is politically deadly, especially in Florida.
They have little understanding of what they are supporting.
To me, it seems more a question that you guys have trouble understanding what you are opposing. Comparing Sanders to Mussolini for instance.
 
Lazy:
Want something for nothing or very little effort.

Freeloaders:
Want others to pay for their things.

Uneducated:
Don't understand the ramifications of giving the government the kind of power he proposes.

Economically illiterate:
Don't truly understand the value of a dollar or the gratification that comes from earning it and working your way up the ladder.

Lack life skills and ambition:
Need the government to manage their daily lives.




I know this likely comes off as an insult but that's how I see it. No point in trying to polish a turd least it rub off on me.
But your cool with all the free handouts trump has given to the rich? Have you noticed trump policy has not delivered as claimed? Look at the tax cuts that didn't pay for themselves? Huge handout to the rich and gdp growth went down last year. Talk about economically illiterate....
 
We all will be if he some how wins.

The markets will crash within days if he beats Trump and there isn't a Republican congress to block him.

So you are okay with the 1% holding the rest of us hostage? "Don't you dare demand better, or we will crash the market rather than pay a little more in taxes we can easily afford!"

I get a kick out of talk like this. I am MUCH better off than my parents and grandparents. As is the GREAT MAJORITY of Americans. We have bigger houses, more cars, hell, more of everything.

But the rich are holding us hostage?

Mark
 
Lazy:
Want something for nothing or very little effort.

Freeloaders:
Want others to pay for their things.

Uneducated:
Don't understand the ramifications of giving the government the kind of power he proposes.

Economically illiterate:
Don't truly understand the value of a dollar or the gratification that comes from earning it and working your way up the ladder.

Lack life skills and ambition:
Need the government to manage their daily lives.




I know this likely comes off as an insult but that's how I see it. No point in trying to polish a turd least it rub off on me.
They have little understanding of what they are supporting.

MUSSOLINI MADE THE TRAINS RUNS ON TIME, BERNIE SANDERS EDITION: It’s not surprising that Bernie still sympathizes with Communist Cuba, but it is remarkable that he doesn’t seem to either recognize or care that this sort of thing is politically deadly, especially in Florida.
They have little understanding of what they are supporting.
To me, it seems more a question that you guys have trouble understanding what you are opposing. Comparing Sanders to Mussolini for instance.
Bernie still sympathizes with Communist Cuba.

Cuban law limits freedom of expression, association, assembly, movement, and the press. The government maintains tight control on religious institutions, affiliated groups, and individual believers.

Censorship in Cuba continues. According to the report of Human Rights Watch from 2017 the government continues to rely on arbitrary detention to harass and intimidate critics, independent activists, political opponents, and others. The Cuban Commission for Human Rights and National Reconciliation received more than 7,900 reports of arbitrary detentions from January through August 2016. This represents the highest monthly average of detentions in the past six years.

This is what Bernie wants for America. No Thanks!
 
Lazy:
Want something for nothing or very little effort.

Freeloaders:
Want others to pay for their things.

Uneducated:
Don't understand the ramifications of giving the government the kind of power he proposes.

Economically illiterate:
Don't truly understand the value of a dollar or the gratification that comes from earning it and working your way up the ladder.

Lack life skills and ambition:
Need the government to manage their daily lives.




I know this likely comes off as an insult but that's how I see it. No point in trying to polish a turd least it rub off on me.
They have little understanding of what they are supporting.

MUSSOLINI MADE THE TRAINS RUNS ON TIME, BERNIE SANDERS EDITION: It’s not surprising that Bernie still sympathizes with Communist Cuba, but it is remarkable that he doesn’t seem to either recognize or care that this sort of thing is politically deadly, especially in Florida.
They have little understanding of what they are supporting.
To me, it seems more a question that you guys have trouble understanding what you are opposing. Comparing Sanders to Mussolini for instance.
Bernie still sympathizes with Communist Cuba.

Cuban law limits freedom of expression, association, assembly, movement, and the press. The government maintains tight control on religious institutions, affiliated groups, and individual believers.

Censorship in Cuba continues. According to the report of Human Rights Watch from 2017 the government continues to rely on arbitrary detention to harass and intimidate critics, independent activists, political opponents, and others. The Cuban Commission for Human Rights and National Reconciliation received more than 7,900 reports of arbitrary detentions from January through August 2016. This represents the highest monthly average of detentions in the past six years.

This is what Bernie wants for America. No Thanks!
Have you read the tweet you posted? First sentence. " We're very opposed to the authoritarian nature of Cuba."
Yet you continue to post that Cuba is authoritarian. That to me suggests you are simply unwilling to consider the tweet in its context. Do you have a problem with literacy programs?

It's the typical strawman argument wich you guys employ against Bernie. Rather than discussing what he actually proposes you point to Cuba and China and yell "that's what Bernie wants."
 
Lazy:
Want something for nothing or very little effort.

Freeloaders:
Want others to pay for their things.

Uneducated:
Don't understand the ramifications of giving the government the kind of power he proposes.

Economically illiterate:
Don't truly understand the value of a dollar or the gratification that comes from earning it and working your way up the ladder.

Lack life skills and ambition:
Need the government to manage their daily lives.




I know this likely comes off as an insult but that's how I see it. No point in trying to polish a turd least it rub off on me.
But your cool with all the free handouts trump has given to the rich? Have you noticed trump policy has not delivered as claimed? Look at the tax cuts that didn't pay for themselves? Huge handout to the rich and gdp growth went down last year. Talk about economically illiterate....

Who pays the great majority of taxes in this country?

Mark
 
Thanks for the information. So you think we should go with Bernie and give the Federal government half of our paycheck.
That's not how this works. So far I answered all the questions you asked. You can not refuse to answer mine and just keep on adding new questions so.
To use an example I've heard Bernie use. If you have to spend your money on deductibles, co-pays, and insurance premiums and I cover my health expenses out of the taxes I pay. Isn't the rational way to look at it just comparing which is cheaper and covers the most?
Answer this, please.
I don't know too many Americans who want to give the Federal government half of their paycheck. You probably use public transportation. I hear gasoline is pretty expensive. So how long do you have to wait for an operation if you need one?
I notice you do everything but answering my question. You want to have a conversation I'm in but if you don't feel under any obligation to answer me and at the same time just keep on piling in other questions it is not a conversation but an interrogation and that's boring so again.
To use an example I've heard Bernie use. If you have to spend your money on deductibles, co-pays, and insurance premiums and I cover my health expenses out of the taxes I pay. Isn't the rational way to look at it just comparing which is cheaper and covers the most?
Can you please stop dodging? It's not a hard question.
I'm not dodging. I have healthcare because I paid for it. I expect every adult to pay for their own insurance. Tell me why I should give the government half my paycheck.
Of course, you are dodging. I asked if you are capable of rationally judging the costs of services like healthcare. You refuse to answer that. But I'll answer. You should pay half your paycheck to the government because that half ensures you will never have to go medically bankrupt. Because it ensures you can be assured your children will be able to attend college without being in debt for decades or failing that a trade when they leave high school. Because it ensures you won't lose all your income when you get sick or get into an accident or become unemployed. Because it ensures you'll be able to strike a balance between work and free time. This on top of things like a decent infrastructure, municipal services and the like.
I never paid half my paycheck for insurance and I've had numerous heart procedures and cancer twice. The insurance that I paid for or had with my employer as a paid benefit took care of it, not the government.
 
Thanks for the information. So you think we should go with Bernie and give the Federal government half of our paycheck.
That's not how this works. So far I answered all the questions you asked. You can not refuse to answer mine and just keep on adding new questions so.
To use an example I've heard Bernie use. If you have to spend your money on deductibles, co-pays, and insurance premiums and I cover my health expenses out of the taxes I pay. Isn't the rational way to look at it just comparing which is cheaper and covers the most?
Answer this, please.
I don't know too many Americans who want to give the Federal government half of their paycheck. You probably use public transportation. I hear gasoline is pretty expensive. So how long do you have to wait for an operation if you need one?
I notice you do everything but answering my question. You want to have a conversation I'm in but if you don't feel under any obligation to answer me and at the same time just keep on piling in other questions it is not a conversation but an interrogation and that's boring so again.
To use an example I've heard Bernie use. If you have to spend your money on deductibles, co-pays, and insurance premiums and I cover my health expenses out of the taxes I pay. Isn't the rational way to look at it just comparing which is cheaper and covers the most?
Can you please stop dodging? It's not a hard question.
I'm not dodging. I have healthcare because I paid for it. I expect every adult to pay for their own insurance. Tell me why I should give the government half my paycheck.
By the way, I paid for my own insurance. I paid taxes. This is where you guys seem to disconnect. It seems that you guys are unable to recognize that taxes are not punishment but a payment for services provided. And like with any payment I simply want the best deal.
I paid for my insurance or had insurance as an employee benefit. It was a much better deal than Medicare is.
 
Lazy:
Want something for nothing or very little effort.

Freeloaders:
Want others to pay for their things.

Uneducated:
Don't understand the ramifications of giving the government the kind of power he proposes.

Economically illiterate:
Don't truly understand the value of a dollar or the gratification that comes from earning it and working your way up the ladder.

Lack life skills and ambition:
Need the government to manage their daily lives.




I know this likely comes off as an insult but that's how I see it. No point in trying to polish a turd least it rub off on me.
They have little understanding of what they are supporting.

MUSSOLINI MADE THE TRAINS RUNS ON TIME, BERNIE SANDERS EDITION: It’s not surprising that Bernie still sympathizes with Communist Cuba, but it is remarkable that he doesn’t seem to either recognize or care that this sort of thing is politically deadly, especially in Florida.
They have little understanding of what they are supporting.
To me, it seems more a question that you guys have trouble understanding what you are opposing. Comparing Sanders to Mussolini for instance.
Mussolini was a socialist and so is Sanders.
 
That's not how this works. So far I answered all the questions you asked. You can not refuse to answer mine and just keep on adding new questions so.
Answer this, please.
I don't know too many Americans who want to give the Federal government half of their paycheck. You probably use public transportation. I hear gasoline is pretty expensive. So how long do you have to wait for an operation if you need one?
I notice you do everything but answering my question. You want to have a conversation I'm in but if you don't feel under any obligation to answer me and at the same time just keep on piling in other questions it is not a conversation but an interrogation and that's boring so again.
To use an example I've heard Bernie use. If you have to spend your money on deductibles, co-pays, and insurance premiums and I cover my health expenses out of the taxes I pay. Isn't the rational way to look at it just comparing which is cheaper and covers the most?
Can you please stop dodging? It's not a hard question.
I'm not dodging. I have healthcare because I paid for it. I expect every adult to pay for their own insurance. Tell me why I should give the government half my paycheck.
Of course, you are dodging. I asked if you are capable of rationally judging the costs of services like healthcare. You refuse to answer that. But I'll answer. You should pay half your paycheck to the government because that half ensures you will never have to go medically bankrupt. Because it ensures you can be assured your children will be able to attend college without being in debt for decades or failing that a trade when they leave high school. Because it ensures you won't lose all your income when you get sick or get into an accident or become unemployed. Because it ensures you'll be able to strike a balance between work and free time. This on top of things like a decent infrastructure, municipal services and the like.
I never paid half my paycheck for insurance and I've had numerous heart procedures and cancer twice. The insurance that I paid for or had with my employer as a paid benefit took care of it, not the government.
I don't pay half my paycheck for insurance. I pay half my paycheck to get all the things I mentioned in my previous post and more. As to your personal situation I assure you you paid more than I would have in the same situation. Quite a lot more. A statistical fact.Current health expenditure (% of GDP) | Data Almost double as a percentage of GDP.
 
Lazy:
Want something for nothing or very little effort.

Freeloaders:
Want others to pay for their things.

Uneducated:
Don't understand the ramifications of giving the government the kind of power he proposes.

Economically illiterate:
Don't truly understand the value of a dollar or the gratification that comes from earning it and working your way up the ladder.

Lack life skills and ambition:
Need the government to manage their daily lives.




I know this likely comes off as an insult but that's how I see it. No point in trying to polish a turd least it rub off on me.
They have little understanding of what they are supporting.

MUSSOLINI MADE THE TRAINS RUNS ON TIME, BERNIE SANDERS EDITION: It’s not surprising that Bernie still sympathizes with Communist Cuba, but it is remarkable that he doesn’t seem to either recognize or care that this sort of thing is politically deadly, especially in Florida.
They have little understanding of what they are supporting.
To me, it seems more a question that you guys have trouble understanding what you are opposing. Comparing Sanders to Mussolini for instance.
Mussolini was a socialist and so is Sanders.
Mussolini was a fascist. He was also male does that also mean that all males are like Mussolini? Since we are trying to compare?
 
Lazy:
Want something for nothing or very little effort.

Freeloaders:
Want others to pay for their things.

Uneducated:
Don't understand the ramifications of giving the government the kind of power he proposes.

Economically illiterate:
Don't truly understand the value of a dollar or the gratification that comes from earning it and working your way up the ladder.

Lack life skills and ambition:
Need the government to manage their daily lives.




I know this likely comes off as an insult but that's how I see it. No point in trying to polish a turd least it rub off on me.
But your cool with all the free handouts trump has given to the rich? Have you noticed trump policy has not delivered as claimed? Look at the tax cuts that didn't pay for themselves? Huge handout to the rich and gdp growth went down last year. Talk about economically illiterate....

Who pays the great majority of taxes in this country?

Mark
For good reason. It's their businesses that are using up all the dollars.
 
Sanders voters...are creatures who don't have money to pay their University or rent or shit really....they are useless

in other words.....Sanders voters are losers....


losers and morons who will never amount to nothing
 
Sanders voters...are creatures who don't have money to pay their University or rent or shit really....they are useless

in other words.....Sanders voters are losers....


losers and morons who will never amount to nothing
Sounds like trump supporters. He won on the low educated.
 
Sanders voters...are creatures who don't have money to pay their University or rent or shit really....they are useless

in other words.....Sanders voters are losers....


losers and morons who will never amount to nothing
Sounds like trump supporters. He won on the low educated.


oh....another one.....another TDS sufferer
 
Lazy:
Want something for nothing or very little effort.

Freeloaders:
Want others to pay for their things.

Uneducated:
Don't understand the ramifications of giving the government the kind of power he proposes.

Economically illiterate:
Don't truly understand the value of a dollar or the gratification that comes from earning it and working your way up the ladder.

Lack life skills and ambition:
Need the government to manage their daily lives.




I know this likely comes off as an insult but that's how I see it. No point in trying to polish a turd least it rub off on me.
They have little understanding of what they are supporting.

MUSSOLINI MADE THE TRAINS RUNS ON TIME, BERNIE SANDERS EDITION: It’s not surprising that Bernie still sympathizes with Communist Cuba, but it is remarkable that he doesn’t seem to either recognize or care that this sort of thing is politically deadly, especially in Florida.
They have little understanding of what they are supporting.
To me, it seems more a question that you guys have trouble understanding what you are opposing. Comparing Sanders to Mussolini for instance.
Bernie still sympathizes with Communist Cuba.

Cuban law limits freedom of expression, association, assembly, movement, and the press. The government maintains tight control on religious institutions, affiliated groups, and individual believers.

Censorship in Cuba continues. According to the report of Human Rights Watch from 2017 the government continues to rely on arbitrary detention to harass and intimidate critics, independent activists, political opponents, and others. The Cuban Commission for Human Rights and National Reconciliation received more than 7,900 reports of arbitrary detentions from January through August 2016. This represents the highest monthly average of detentions in the past six years.

This is what Bernie wants for America. No Thanks!
Have you read the tweet you posted? First sentence. " We're very opposed to the authoritarian nature of Cuba."
Yet you continue to post that Cuba is authoritarian. That to me suggests you are simply unwilling to consider the tweet in its context. Do you have a problem with literacy programs?

It's the typical strawman argument wich you guys employ against Bernie. Rather than discussing what he actually proposes you point to Cuba and China and yell "that's what Bernie wants."
You missed this part:

Bernie Sanders praises the Castro regime in new ’60 Minutes’ interview.

Do you think "60 minutes Interview" is a synonym for "Tweet"?

Watch:


60 Minutes

✔@60Minutes

https://twitter.com/60Minutes/status/1231732950540132355

Bernie Sanders defends his 1980s comments about Fidel Castro in an interview on 60 Minutes. https://cbsn.ws/2Pis7uC



https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=1231732950540132355
4:09 PM - Feb 23, 2020

It didn’t take long for Mayor Sanders to start pushing policy in unorthodox directions, most notably declaring in 1987 that the Medical Center Hospital of Vermont, now known as the University of Vermont Medical Center, was no longer tax-exempt; he sent the hospital a tax bill for $2.9 million. Sanders declared, “There are a heck of a lot of people up there making a heck of a lot of money.” This led to a court fight; a superior court judge ruled against the city on all counts, declaring that “statutes should not be construed in such a way that will lead to irrational or absurd consequences.” Twelve years later, after Sanders had departed the mayor’s office to become Vermont’s lone representative in the U.S. House, the hospital and Burlington reached an agreement on payments in return for municipal services and higher levels of charitable care.

Bernie Sanders: Twenty Things You Didn’t Know About Him | National Review
 

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