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^ self-loathing maleThanks for representing men with such dignity.
It's not like we don't show what POSs we are every day without such comments.
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^ self-loathing maleThanks for representing men with such dignity.
It's not like we don't show what POSs we are every day without such comments.
Actually, someone who values females for the wonderful people they are.^ self-loathing male![]()
It doesn't matter......
It's a gutter comment.
And it reflects our continuing attitudes towards women.
Women are superior in almost all ways.
Why they want to become like men is beyond me.
How sweetActually, someone who values females for the wonderful people they are.
And not wanting someone who'd "hit that" to be around anyone I care for.
Iām used to like making Facebook Groups and Posting like Chemistry and People being like āIdk what to Say, Please Keep goingā. And like Older People PMing me with Thanks, and Things like that.Welcome to the board Angelicalist....One thing is for sure, you sure do seem to love seeing yourself in print.....It's almost as if the opening two pages so far are dominated by one poster, you.
Iāve always been a fan of pithyā¦I donāt think FB should be the place for political discussionā¦.unless youāre looking to start shit with family.Iām used to like making Facebook Groups and Posting like Chemistry and People being like āIdk what to Say, Please Keep goingā. And like Older People PMing me with Thanks, and Things like that.
That is Ad Hominem for sure, and all kind of Backhanded Compliments, but not False altogether, except that She does what She does for the People of Iran, as Things are Happening that need to be done, Goldie and them all know who She is like as Peers, even like Chris Cuomo which is like a whole Other Thing, but thatās like New York. Just mentioning it because like Elica and Goldie are Iran. Piers has her on because She is Serious and knows what Sheās doing and it even Sparks Controversy, and he jumps on.
This is not Elica Le Bon, but there is a Guy on this like Podcast Thing that says that Google says him and Elica Le Bon and him (Chris Kunsler, or something) are Married. He says it is not True, and is maybe Based on him saying āQueen Elicaā on Social Media or something, and there somehow then is an Article that says She keeps her Life Private and She is Married to him. All False. Then they Talk about like their Opinions of Elica.
That Conversation Starts around 1:02:00, specifically 1:02:57 ish.
What I am saying is that we are going to do some Things in Iran and Accomplish some Things in this War, that I was and/or will be when itās not Active Bombings and maybe over, and I want to Talk about Israel and Lebanon and Syria and Things long Term too. In a larger Context. I Wrote a Book and Sent a Draft all over Africa in like 2021.
A Poor Speaker, lol.
Maybe You have a Short Attention Span or something. A lot of her Arguments are like Responses to the āPop Cultureā Arguments in the Iran āTheaterā now we might call it. And Iāll actually Post some back and forths between me and another Person about this so that People New to the Subject can Read both Sides instead of just me.
Other Person:
Just saying up front, I listened to the vid in the link on the opening post and the first vid shown in the post that I'm replying to. There is plenty of grist for my mill in those two bits.
The history she lists in the OP was known to me. It wasn't "mind blown" as she indicated. It was a simplified history, biased but factual. No disagreement, just saying it was biased toward its own complicated and hazy viewpoint. The Soviet Union dissolved in the 1980's, so, not sure how valid her claim is that their anti-imperialist propaganda applies to us, 40 years later. That said, anti-Semitic ideology is both hundreds of years older than the USSR and continues into today, well after the USSR. Hamas incorporated beliefs listed in the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, published, by the way, through agencies inside the Russian Imperial government, several decades before Lenin took power. Not sure how that applies to Iran, so am asking for clarification -- what does that have to do with today's situation in Iran? Not much, IMO. Most of what's going on in Iran that the West is interested in is access to their oil.
Regarding what happened in Gaza and in Israel on Oct 7. Both sides are wrong. I don't want the US to give military aid to Israel. I don't understand why we are supporting Israel. Not that I'm opposed to a state of Israel. But I don't support what they are doing in the West Bank or the ethnic cleansing they are in the process of carrying out in Gaza. Same goes with Hamas. Neither are engaged in "self defense". Both sides seem to me to seek the total destruction of the other side. There can be no peace when neither side are willing to accept the right of the other side to exist.
Myself, I'm for US national defense. With a stress put on the word "defense". As I said earlier, the US's interest is to maintain access to cheap oil. This is something that is becoming less important as we proceed into the 21st century. It's time to stop putting our national treasure into maintaining access to it. Nation building in the middle east and propping up authoritarian regimes in the middle east must end.
The stuff in that vid about liberals in the west made zero sense. Am I really Marxist and do I hate the west? Sorry but I'm laughing right now. I am in fact liberal because I support liberal democracy. Counter to what was claimed in that vid, I do not support the theocracy in Iran and I know of no US liberals who do. Nor would I have supported the Shah before them. There was a nascent democracy in Iran before it was overthrown in a US-CIA led coup before the Shah took power. I stopped listening when I heard fake thoughts projected upon "liberals". I am anti-authoritarian. This includes Iran's government, Netanyahu's government, Trump's government, Putin's government, Orban's government, Modi's government and so forth. I get the sense that Elicia wants the Shah back. I'm not going to support that.
The lesson I take from the messed-up situation in Iran is that the US should stay out of nation building. I'm OK with sanctions based upon human rights violations and not widespread bombing by US and Israel now going on in Iran. Recent polls show that most people in the US are of the same opinion. Just saying, nothing about Trump's bombing campaign makes sense. It does not seem to be about protecting Iranian lives. It does not seem to be about stopping Iran from building The Bomb. It's not going to make Israel a safer nation for democracy. Going back 70 years and into today, US history in Iran is more like a clown show than helpful to anybody. What do you suggest we do?
On the other hand, let us not forget that Trump has a political situation on his hands regarding the Epstein files. His bombing campaign coincided with reports of testimony by some women who were raped by Trump when they were 13 YO. But we do know he seems to be willing to do anything to deflect attention away from the Epstein files. From what we've learned about this man, we can't dismiss this as a reason, albeit a bad reason, for the mess we seem to be making in Iran right now.
So then, I said (and there is more to this back and forth than just these 2 Iām giving You now, but itās a lot) :
Just to Respond to the First Question, I understand the Russian Propaganda is maybe not the most Iran-centric Video to Start with, Fair Criticism. But, what I am saying is, that in America, if You are there or somewhere else, there are Rumors and they come from somewhere.
Now. So, let me get very Serious with You. This is a Guy named Jack Wheeler.
He was a Philosopher by College Training, but Originator of what is called āReagan Doctrineā and thereby Documents like āCIA Psychological Operations in Guerrilla Warfareā which was like Christian Democracy v Communist Counter Revolution Stuff. Iran Contra Essentially. But he had a Website called āTo The Pointā, and he was like āRich Democrats are just Republicans carrying an Evil Eye Talismanā, grasp that. So that was his Newspaper for Years after Reagan and he is Dead now. But he is from my Home Town, at Least when he made the Video I shared, he Lived in my Home Town.
I didnāt say āLet Your Mind be Blownā, I understand Your Pushback, and in that Framing She seems to be Speaking Specifically to a Crowd of People Watching a Video with something to do with Elon Musk. So, thatās the Audience for her Video there. I donāt think this is about Oil, but we can argue about that, like Iraqi Gold in both the U.S. and ISIS Wars. And like You said, we can Argue about Israel, and Should, Elica is Iranian. Equally Important Debate. And Sheās Talking to Anti-Fox Liberals. Can You accept She is likely getting a lot of Flack? I didnāt want to say this in this Thread, but there is a $250,000 Bounty on her Head, Sheās not Nobody. And Elica doesnāt want a Shah, She wants Iranians that Admire her, that let Israelis Visit, where we as Americans can have Passports with both Stamps. Do You see that?
US Government, Yes, Out of Nationbuilding like Iraq, but the U.S. PEOPLE. Google āCurrencyā RV for example, there are Communities of Forex Traders Buying Zimbabwe Dollars and Vietnam, Talking about Historical Trends where (actually True) Britain came and Remade Currencies with Higher Security Measures and Value, and these āRVā or āRevaluationā Speculators have Telegram Channels and YouTube Videos, Communities Following them, but this kind of Thing is REAL, after Brexit, after ISIS is expelled from the Bank of Mosul, and likely after the New Iranian Dawn.
And I agree with You, if they Polled āShould we Bomb Iran Todayā I would have been in the āNoā Category, but I wouldnāt say I am against at it altogether like, I would have argued for it Reasonably maybe before it Happened. Not that I did. And I agree, the Previous Bombs took out Iranās Nuclear Program, with like 1 Precision Bunker Bomb that had even been used for Other Things but was actually designed and Tested with Model Recreations of the Iranian Nuclear Bunker to be Bombed, maybe hundreds of Times before Trump said āDo itā on the Real Bunker in Iran. It was Destroyed before this āCampaignā letās call it. And Iām not saying Trump knows what heās doing, but now that we are Talking about it, Iām saying I know what I am doing. And I am. And You say āWhat do You suggest we do?ā, I actually have a whole Hellenization and/or Crusade Plan, but letās just say, letās Start with Elica.
And Regarding the Epstein Files, I could make this all about that and suddenly sound like a Mentally unstable Person if I put it all Public in 1 Place at Once, but weāll Talk about that Later, and Iāll just say look up #CynthiaWheless or #CynthiaWheeless largely scrubbed from the Internet. And look up like āRICO as a Lawsuitā, Iām going to Start putting People on this stuff.
They are though.Nobody is reading all that garbage or watching those stupid videos
This is a debate forum. Pick a topic, state your opinion, back it up with facts and logic, and be succinct if you don't want to be ignored.They are though.
It seems that like Goldie and them are Reading these Threads, they are Mad, I didnāt want to like take this in this Direction so Iām just going to Describe kind of what I see. I donāt want to like say that this is a Bad Thing, but they have like a āLiger Armyā like how the Minecraft YouTuber Liger has a Pakistani Group, they are like that, we could Call them āStansā if we wanted which Upgrades them to like K-Pop Status, and we did like #OperationFanCam in Dallas, like we can Definitely Work with all of this. But they are like Ban Happy, and like they Talk about like āDurkasā and Ana might be Considered like āDurkaā Territory, so like what is going on is they are Mad, Right. And She is like a Former Canadian Politician, and Sheās like Mad in French or something, Right. Which is all something we can Work with, the #VanKushFamily Oracle Absorbs Egregori, this is what we do, I am One.This is a debate forum. Pick a topic, state your opinion, back it up with facts and logic, and be succinct if you don't want to be ignored.