More Strong Evidence for Evolution: Anatomical Vestiges

Its called intelligent DNA. All living creatures are equipped with a DNA signature that allows for life to adapt to its natural surroundings. Again........with a BS example of "horizontal movement WITHIN SPECIES"? Simply because some sections of DNA is not activated, because there is no need....proves what, except INTELLIGENT DESIGN?

Useless organs, even dangerous ones like Wisdom Teeth (from when we were herbivorous and lived in trees) can and have killed people.
But for the advent of Modern dentistry the human population would be gradually purged of the majority who get them.
The Coxxis/former tail also a useless remnant from when we lived in trees.

That's NOT "intelligent," it's what you'd a expect from a continuing/common descent Pile/build-up of trial and error mutations you Moron.

The rest is all useless CRAP about what others call Micro vs Macro evolution
But it's really the same ongoing continued distancing that leads to other species.
And the EVIDENCE for that is Overwhelming: fossil and otherwise.
And btw WE are not special creation, we are still evolving as is all life.

Another kweationist klown.

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Do you believe the Roswell Rock, i.e. ancient aliens, then? History channel is pretty legit. I post it for the easily fooled here.


You of course like the conspiratorial crap on Ancient Aliens.
(what happened to Genesis?)
The worst show on History or on any channel. Catering to the LCD/Lowest Common denominator conspiracy crowd.
More magic BS that is just up your BS magic alley.
No real science.
It figures.

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You of course like the conspiratorial crap on Ancient Aliens.
(what happened to Genesis?)
The worst show on History or on any channel. Catering to the LCD/Lowest Common denominator conspiracy crowd.
More magic BS that is just up your BS magic alley.
No real science.
It figures.

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Do you have any observable evidence for aliens? Of course, not. Aliens don't exist except in sci-fi.
 
Do you have any observable evidence for aliens? Of course, not. Aliens don't exist except in sci-fi.
No and neither do you.
So why are you posting and glorifying youtubes about them you Crazy Freak?

I see you gave up on the real on topical debate because you LOST like 100 times in one this thread alone.

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DNA has no intelligence. DNA does not do anything with purpose or intent. It has no self awareness. Just because something looks fancy to you -- a person who knows next to nothing about any related topic -- doesn't prove it is "design". It merely "kinda, sorta" feels that way to you.

In fact, that's why you hate the theory of evolution" it shows that things that appear "designed:" were not designed and require no designer. So you are about 150 years behind the rest of the world.

And your use of Pasteur's experiment is specious. It does not contradict a single principle of evolution or abiogenesis. You embarrass yourself to claim it does.
Really DNA has no purpose or intent? :abgg2q.jpg: If Pasteur's experiment is SPCIOUS......why don't you present a single scientific experiment that does not falsify ABIOGENESIS. Of the 1000s of experiments conducted attempting to prove abiogenesis, simply present the one that affirms such a theory. Why would Pasteur waste time attempting to falsify something that has been falsified numerous times previously. Now THAT IS EMBARRASSING. Pasteur indeed attempted to allow life to grow from nothing based upon all previous theories of ABIOGENSIS. Pasteur proved that it takes life to reproduce life, and that can only be reproduced WITHIN SPECIES.

First you declare that DNA has no indicators of design........when design is the very purpose of DNA. Please enlighten us, show us any example of life that does not have a DNA signature specific to that particular species. Just one. Even the fetus that you would sacrifice in the womb has a personal identifying DNA signature that is unique to every other life form on earth, even to that of both parents. Talk about willful ignorance. :eusa_shhh:
 
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Really DNA has no purpose or intent?
Please read more slowly and try to understand ideas before commenting. This is the science section, not the Sunday revival.

I said DNA does nothing with purpose or intent. Any more so than does a water molecule.

Following?
Pasteur's experiment is SPCIOUS
Also not what I said. You either do not read well, or you are a dishonest troll who intentionally misrepresents people.

Go back, re-read, maybe attempt some comments that are both coherent and relevant to the comments to which you are responding. Or stick to the Rubber Room.
 
Really DNA has no purpose or intent? :abgg2q.jpg: If Pasteur's experiment is SPCIOUS......why don't you present a single scientific experiment that does not falsify ABIOGENESIS. Of the 1000s of experiments conducted attempting to prove abiogenesis, simply present the one that affirms such a theory. Why would Pasteur waste time attempting to falsify something that has been falsified numerous times previously. Now THAT IS EMBARRASSING.

First you declare that DNA has no indicators of design........when DNA design is the very purpose of DNA. Please enlighten us, show any example of life that does not have a DNA signature specific to that particular species. Just one. Even the fetus that you would sacrifice in the womb has a personal identifying DNA signature that is unique to every other life form on earth, even to that of both parents. Talk about willful ignorance. :eusa_shhh:
DNA's has no "Intent," it's an organic chemical with no brain.
It's just what life happened to start with. (it could have been QVC and maybe is 300 light years from here)
And it's not intelligent.
It's trial and error.
Better adapted ones to the evolving climate survive better, worse go EXTINCT.
Who 'designed' that?
What happened to Dinosaurs? Mammoths? Saber Tooth Tigers?
Needless suffering and animal genocide is intelligent?

We have "vertical and horizontal" because of ERROR/Mutation of it.
Just keep going 'horizontal' for long enough and you will end up vertical/separate.

A smart design would be clean and simple.
No mutations, birth defects, etc no Vanishing species from 'perfect' Genesis.
Humans, if truly special/intelligent design, and non-evolved, could be solid state, no messy organ, no DNA etc.
THAT would prove something!
Instead we are 98.6% DNA similar to Chimps, as Evo would predict.

The universe also Chaotic.
Colliding Galaxies, exploding stars, etc (which may take billions/trillions/quadrillions of living things)
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Useless organs, even dangerous ones like Wisdom Teeth (from when we were herbivorous and lived in trees) can and have killed people.
But for the advent of Modern dentistry the human population would be gradually purged of the majority who get them.
The Coxxis/former tail also a useless remnant from when we lived in trees.

That's NOT "intelligent," it's what you'd a expect from a continuing/common descent Pile/build-up of trial and error mutations you Moron.

The rest is all useless CRAP about what others call Micro vs Macro evolution
But it's really the same ongoing continued distancing that leads to other species.
And the EVIDENCE for that is Overwhelming: fossil and otherwise.
And btw WE are not special creation, we are still evolving as is all life.

Another kweationist klown.
What? How think do you stupid people to be? Don't watch your left hand behind the curtain pay no attention .......Watch the right hand and pretend that evolution is confirmed because there are examples of adaptation WITHIN SPECIES.

Vertical Evolution:

Horizontal Evolution:

One is truth..........the other is but a theory that cannot find the evidence required to be A LAW OF EVOLUTION.

Just show us THIS LAW. You will not because it does not exist.



Again........REAL SLOW...........like you are the 5 year old you are pretending everyone else to be. Evolution within species is a FACT of science and it rests with a complete and whole DNA signature. A mutation is a DNA strain that is missing a link and is less than perfect. You can present all the examples of adaption WITHIN SPECIES you want, but you are yet to present the first example of something evolving into a totally different species.

Simply because life within species can adapt to its surroundings does not prove Darwinian Evolution from dead matter nor does it prove that one species can EVOLVE into a totally different species. A K9 will always be a k9 regardless of all subspecies of that species. Primate will always be primates. What? Are living fossils that exist today just to stupid to evolve into man? Why have not all primates evolved into humans......just the very smart one? :eusa_think:
 
? How think do you stupid people to be?
And this where you get reminded that every well educated person on the planet accepts evolution as a fact, unless their minds are addled by mythology. Which is a very small percentage of them. You are embarrassing yourself. Especially in light of some of the very stupid things you have said, and the very stupid behavior you have displayed.
 
What? How think do you stupid people to be? Don't watch your left hand behind the curtain pay no attention .......Watch the right hand and pretend that evolution is confirmed because there are examples of adaptation WITHIN SPECIES.

Vertical Evolution:

Horizontal Evolution:

One is truth..........the other is but a theory that cannot find the evidence required to be A LAW OF EVOLUTION.

Just show us THIS LAW. You will not because it does not exist.
LOFL
NO such thing Clown, unless you're reading Kweationist websites.


Again........REAL SLOW...........like you are the 5 year old you are pretending everyone else to be. Evolution within species is a FACT of science and it rests with a complete and whole DNA signature. A mutation is a DNA strain that is missing a link and is less than perfect. You can present all the examples of adaption WITHIN SPECIES you want, but you are yet to present the first example of something evolving into a totally different species.

Simply because life within species can adapt to its surroundings does not prove Darwinian Evolution from dead matter nor does it prove that one species can EVOLVE into a totally different species. A K9 will always be a k9 regardless of all subspecies of that species. Primate will always be primates. What? Are living fossils that exist today just to stupid to evolve into man? Why have not all primates evolved into humans......just the very smart one? :eusa_think:[
Evolution between species is also a documented FACT.
Dozens of Fossil creatures/Tweeners gradually changing (in our case) from Ape to more human for over 5 million years.

from "15 answers to creationist nonsense."
Scientific American
My thread of that title and link here:


"..For instance, evolution implies that between the earliest known ancestors of humans (roughly five million years old) and the appearance of anatomically modern humans (about 200,000 years ago), one should find a succession of hominin creatures with features progressively less apelike and more modern, which is indeed what the fossil record shows.
But one should not—and does not—find modern human fossils embedded in strata from the Jurassic period (65 million years ago). Evolutionary biology routinely makes predictions far more refined and precise than this, and researchers test them constantly..."
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DNA's has no "Intent," it's an organic chemical with no brain.
It's just what life happened to start with. (it could have been QVC and maybe is 300 light years from here)
And it's not intelligent.
It's trial and error.
Better adapted ones to the evolving climate survive better, worse go EXTINCT.
Who 'designed' that?
Wat happened to Dinosaurs? Mammoths? Saber Tooth Tigers?

We have "vertical and horizontal" because of ERROR/Mutation of it.
Just keep going 'horizontal' for long enough and you will end up vertical/separate.

A smart design would be clean and simple.
No mutations, birth defects, etc no Vanishing species from 'perfect' Genesis..

The universe also Chaotic. Colliding Galaxies, exploding stars, etc (which may take billions/trillions/quadrillions of living things)
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Again. Show me the LAW OF EVOLUTION as confirmed via the Scientific Method. You will not........you continue to present logical fallacies because there is no such Law found in Nature. It's very simple.

And your ignorance of scripture is quite amusing. Genesis created the perfect example of life........and it only began to decay because of Sin. When sin entered the world........man was cursed with physical decay and death. With each proceeding generation mankind's life cycle was reduced the further away from the ADAM GENE it became because there no longer existed the perfect environment for long or eternal life.

Read the scriptures. First, the Scriptures agree with Pasteur, Life begets life, within species (Genesis 1:24-26)

Adam lived 130 years and begat a Son called Seth.....and he lived to at least the age of 800 (Genesis 5:3-4) This is after Cain and Able. Even though Cain and Able were the 1st children of Adam and Eve, the scriptures make it clear that they had at least 3 more sons and 2 daughters, they most likely had a great many more that is not mentioned in scripture.......a reproductive life of 800 years is a long time.

All this proves is that in the beginning the DNA of man was perfect......as there were no mutations from corrupted line of descent....ADAM was made perfect, but after being forced from his perfect environment because of sin.......the human life began a gradual decay to finally being limited to a little over 3 score and 10 (Ps. 90:10)

What this also proves is that in the beginning with the perfect man....incest was not a problem because the DNA had not been corrupted by outside sources. You can't get more incestuous than marrying yourself. Eve was created directly from the flesh Adam......a rib. (Genesis 2:22)

Thus.........who did Cain marry after the death of Able? Clearly he married a sister..........a practice that with time, the further away from Adam the generations came.......was forbidden because of the genetic diseases that can occur today when 2 close relatives marry. When the world was new, mutations that can enter the gene pool (the taking away of a perfect DNA) had not yet entered the gene pool.

It is for this reason that Adam was allowed to Marry Eve who was taken directly from Adams gene pool. There was no concern with any type of mutation in the beginning. Over time as clearly recorded in the Holy Scriptures you can witness the changing of this social more', Abraham was married to his half sister and this was perfectly acceptable (Genesis 20:1-20). Jumping ahead to the record found in Leviticus there was a law that prohibited marriage between anyone closer than a cousin. (Lev. 18:6-18), today that social more' and law has been limited to 2nd cousins and further removed. Such as was the case when FDR married his cousin etc.,

What you are demonstrating is the fact that the scriptures are presenting TRUTH. Mutation never adds unto any existing perfect DNA signature........it takes away and corrupts that which was at one point PERFECT and it deforms life, it never makes it better. ;)

It think it very amusing when someone digs up an example of a deformed human and claims its an example of the missing link. Like Lucy.......when they admit that she has human teeth and had human diseases ....... while they never consider the very likely circumstance that what they have found is an example of isolated incestuous inbreeding to the point of deformity. Or they find a fish that is deformed due to mutation.......with one eye and half a dorsal fin. "See......its an example of a fish attempting grow a leg...." LMAOo
 
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LOFL
NO such thing Clown, unless you're reading Kweationist websites.



Evolution between species is also a documented FACT.
Dozens of Fossil creatures/Tweeners gradually changing (in our case) from Ape to more human for over 5 million years.

from "15 answers to creationist nonsense."
Scientific American
My thread of that title and link here:


"..For instance, evolution implies that between the earliest known ancestors of humans (roughly five million years old) and the appearance of anatomically modern humans (about 200,000 years ago), one should find a succession of hominin creatures with features progressively less apelike and more modern, which is indeed what the fossil record shows.
But one should not—and does not—find modern human fossils embedded in strata from the Jurassic period (65 million years ago). Evolutionary biology routinely makes predictions far more refined and precise than this, and researchers test them constantly..."
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Again.......if evolution between species exists. Show me the Law of Evolution. You continue to present a logical fallacy and pretend that a theory is a fact of science and truth.
 
Again. Show me the LAW OF EVOLUTION as confirmed via the Scientific Method. You will not........you continue to present logical fallacies because there is no such Law found in Nature. It's very simple.
You're a science illiterate and you could NOT answer me
We have millions of Fossils that demonstrate movement 'vertically.'
Period
No refutation
You Lost.

Science doesn't deal in laws or proof
It deals in Theories affirmed over time.
In this case 160 years and scores of New sciences non contradict and some support.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT 'SCIENTIFIC THEORY' MEANS YOU MORON.
It's the strongest statement science can make about the universe.


15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense
By John Rennie - July 1, 2002
Editor-in-Chief, Scientific American
[.....]
1. Evolution is only a theory. It is not a fact or a scientific law.

Many people learned in Elementary School that a theory falls in the middle of a hierarchy of certainty -- above a mere hypothesis but below a law.
Scientists do NOT use the terms that way, however.
According to the National Academy of Sciences (NAS), a Scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses." No amount of validation changes a theory into a law, which is a descriptive generalization about nature.
So when scientists talk about the theory of evolution -- or the atomic theory or the theory of relativity, for that matter -- they are NOT expressing reservations about its truth.

In addition to the theory of evolution, meaning the idea of descent with modification, one may also speak of the Fact of evolution."..."



And your ignorance of scripture is quite amusing.
Genesis is an impossible fairy tale and there's No DNA. No dinosaurs, nothing.
Just 6 days.
LOFL
Post religion in the religion section with the other Voodoos.


Read the SCIAM link
All your questions/IDIOCY/IGNORANCE (15) answered.

I repeat you are a 100% science illiterate.
And you post NO source for your idiot claims. Why?
No real ones exist that aren't Christian apologetics/Kweationists.

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Useless organs, even dangerous ones like Wisdom Teeth (from when we were herbivorous and lived in trees) can and have killed people.
But for the advent of Modern dentistry the human population would be gradually purged of the majority who get them.
The Coxxis/former tail also a useless remnant from when we lived in trees.

That's NOT "intelligent," it's what you'd a expect from a continuing/common descent Pile/build-up of trial and error mutations you Moron.

The rest is all useless CRAP about what others call Micro vs Macro evolution
But it's really the same ongoing continued distancing that leads to other species.
And the EVIDENCE for that is Overwhelming: fossil and otherwise.
And btw WE are not special creation, we are still evolving as is all life.

Another kweationist klown.

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Indeed :abgg2q.jpg: trail and error mutations. Mutations are smart and intelligent but DNA is random. LMAO Show us an example of a mutated life that has been made complete and whole again.....adding back to the corrupted DNA.....demonstrate your TRAIL and ERROR, Oops! I (a mutation) made a mistake by trail, lets start all over again. Once a DNA is corrupted, its corrupted and incomplete, there is no TRAIL PERIOD. You can't demonstrate that......DNA gains new information with mutation, it never gains information.....it becomes imperfect, not whole, not complete because there was a break in a link.

I am still awaiting for you to present the LAW OF EVOLUTION. Science works with FACTS..........if there are no facts present there can be no LAWS. There is quite a bit of difference between APPLIED SCIENCE and THEORETICAL SCIENCE. One is based upon facts and quantifiable potential........the other is nothing but a philosophy pretending to be SCIENCE, its pseudo in nature, it exists only between the ears of someone, the reason you can't show us the LAW OF EVOLUTION.......you have presented nothing but speculation, assumption, conjecture based upon observing that which exists today while projecting the reality that exists today as a constant over the past eons void of having the empirical evidence to make those conjectures, assumptions, and speculations FACTS of SCIENCE. There is no such animal as the Law of Evolution.

Do you comprehend the term "Rationalize"? Can you spell REASONING? Theoretical physics - Wikipedia

On the other hand "Experimental Physics" Present facts as determined by the scientific method of EXPERIMENTATION that produces empirical evidences that are reproducible and constant. Again........show me the LAW OF EVOLUTION.

Pseudo: not genuine but presenting the appearance of. Example: Look at all your posts.........you pretend evolution is a fact but you simply can't produce the LAW that MAKES IT A FACT OF SCIENCE. Text Book pseudo science.

Just as confirmed in the scriptures, "Professing to be wise.........THEY BECAME FOOLS". -- Rom. 1:22
 
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We know there are no aliens. The crop circle design on the small smooth rock makes it appear hokey. What was interesting was the rock was magnetic and I think the show proved it was a rock and not something made to look like one.

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In Search of Aliens


S 1 E 4

The Roswell Rock​

Aug 15, 2014 | 44m 8s | TV-PG | CC

A mysterious rock bearing a cryptic design was discovered in Roswell, New Mexico in 2004. Now coined “The Roswell Rock,” this piece of stone is unusually smooth and possesses unique magnetic properties. Even more intriguing is that the motif on the rock–a sequence of triangles and crescents–is an exact match to a crop circle found in England nearly two decades ago. Ancient Astronaut Theorist Giorgio Tsoukalos sets out to determine the origin of this intriguing stone. Through a series of experiments Tsoukalos unveils whether The Roswell Rock is merely a man-made fabrication or something much more. How could the precise design have been created without leaving evidence of altering the stone? Why does this small rock react to magnets? And most baffling of all–why does the design match a crop circle that appeared more than 4,000 miles away from the Nevada desert?"

Knock yourself out atheists lol
 
Please read more slowly and try to understand ideas before commenting. This is the science section, not the Sunday revival.

I said DNA does nothing with purpose or intent. Any more so than does a water molecule.

Following?

Also not what I said. You either do not read well, or you are a dishonest troll who intentionally misrepresents people.

Go back, re-read, maybe attempt some comments that are both coherent and relevant to the comments to which you are responding. Or stick to the Rubber Room





If you repeat something over and over it becomes a LAW of PHSICS? You have presented NO LAW OF EVOLUTION. :abgg2q.jpg: You present PSEUDO SCIENCE that exists only as assumption, speculation and conjecture....i.e, You present philosophy and pretend its applied science. If this is the science section. Show me the LAW that makes it applied science, that which can be quantified via potential or observed empirically while being reproducible and constant.
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Indeed :abgg2q.jpg: trail and error mutations. Mutations are smart and intelligent but DNA is random. LMAO Show us an example of a mutated life that has been made complete and whole again.....adding back to the corrupted DNA.....demonstrate your TRAIL and ERROR, Oops! I (a mutation) made a mistake by trail, lets start all over again. Once a DNA is corrupted, its corrupted and incomplete, there is no TRAIL PERIOD. You can't demonstrate that......DNA gains new information with mutation, it never gains information.....it becomes imperfect, not whole, not complete because there was a break in a link.[/quopte]
LYING response.
Mutations are constant errors. Some may end up helping, many/most may not.
They are not "smart" and I never claimed so.
You Dishonest POS.


I am still awaiting for you to present the LAW OF EVOLUTION. Science works with FACTS..........if there are no facts present there can be no LAWS. There is quite a bit of difference between APPLIED SCIENCE and THEORETICAL SCIENCE. One is based upon facts and quantifiable potential........the other is nothing but a philosophy pretending to be SCIENCE, its pseudo in nature, it exists only between the ears of someone, the reason you can't show us the LAW OF EVOLUTION.......you have presented nothing but speculation, assumption, conjecture based upon observing that which exists today while projecting the reality that exists today as a constant over the past eons void of having the empirical evidence to make those conjectures, assumptions, and speculations FACTS of SCIENCE. There is no such animal as the Law of Evolution.
I already explained it with a 100% Response from an impeccable source.
(BTW, do you even have ANY evidence of your or anyone else's god?)
Again:

15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense
By John Rennie - July 1, 2002
Editor-in-Chief, Scientific American
[.....]
1. Evolution is only a theory. It is not a fact or a scientific law.

Many people learned in Elementary School that a theory falls in the middle of a hierarchy of certainty -- above a mere hypothesis but below a law.
Scientists do NOT use the terms that way, however.
According to the National Academy of Sciences (NAS), a Scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses." No amount of validation changes a theory into a law, which is a descriptive generalization about nature.

So when scientists talk about the theory of evolution -- or the atomic theory or the theory of relativity, for that matter -- they are NOT expressing reservations about its truth.


In addition to the theory of evolution, meaning the idea of descent with modification, one may also speak of the Fact of evolution."..."
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And Evolution already is an APPLIED science.

OOOOOOOOPS!
Google at all Brain-dead Bible boy?
No.
You are willfully Ignorant. Like a 12 IQ.

Applications of Evolution (!)

Evolutionary biology, in particular the understanding of how organisms evolve through natural selection, is an area of science with Many Practical Applications.[1][2] Creationists often claim that the theory of evolution lacks any practical applications; however, this claim has been refuted by scientists.[3]

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Wow what a BEATING You're getting you Lying Ignorant God Boy.
What a ******* beating.
Are you like Bond's fellow asylum inmate
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(Bond already lost several tonight and has moved on/deflected to Aliens/another conspiracy)

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