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You defend your faith by demeaning the faith of others? Are you unfamiliar with the concept of defense?
Or do you believe a good defense is being offensive?
Mary is not the mother of God
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You defend your faith by demeaning the faith of others? Are you unfamiliar with the concept of defense?
Or do you believe a good defense is being offensive?
harmonica
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so you believe Smollet's story
???!!!!!
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Your coffin. You cant prove shit
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He's an attention seeking fag
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Let's get this topic back on track:
let's be Intellectualy honest and investigate who Mary really was;
Since Jesus and Mary are both borrowed figures from both historical and mythical characters then lets discuss wherw Mary's image stems from. 1st the historical.
The historical Mary was no virgin, this is a borrowed purity claim from previous godess queens.
The historical Mary comes mainly from Mary Stada of 100bc who's son Yeshu was the sentenced on passover Egyptian influenced sorcerer scammer.
Talmud Shabbos 104, the gemara explicitly discusses the mother being Stada and the father being Pandera. Which is why in Matthew it says Joseph had a mind to divorce her quietly (so she would not be stoned). More sources found in
Jerusalem Talmud (Avodah Zerah II 40d)and in the Tosefta on Hullin II, and (Sanhedrin 43a & 67a). This story is further expanded upon in the Tosefta and Baraitas.
2 accounts:
-Dr. Franz Hartman -
& Gerald Massey's Lectures Originally published in a private edition c. 1900
According to the Babylonian Gemara to the Mishna of Tract "Shabbath," this Jehoshua, the son of Pandira and Stada, was stoned to death as a wizard, in the city of Lud, or Lydda,
Jesus ben Stada (or Pandera) was placedin the time period of about 90 B.C. in Lydda, a town Peter is said to have visited in ACTS.
Interestingly, the early church father Epiphanius around 400 said Pandera was the grandfather of Jesus.
Since Rome favored the half Roman christ that they could blame his sentencing On the Jews they lifted high this Harlot Mary as a queen mother/ godess figure (thus called the Harlot church by other later era christ's followers).
To lift Mary as a glorious queen figure they needed to use prexisting borrowed mythology and ideas of purity and deified powers.
So now study the amplified lifted high Mary through the mystery religions (the glorious mysteries the church gives it's idol)
Semiramis, as the female divinity, would be called Baalti. This word translated into English means "My Lady." In Latin it would be translated "Mea Domina". This name becomes the name "Madonna" which is the name by which Mary is often referred. The same reasoning can be applied to the name of "Mediatrix", which Mary is also called. Mary received that title from "Mylitta" (mediatrix) which was one of the names of the Mother Goddess of Babylon. "The Queen of Heaven" is another name for Mary that has been adopted from the pagan Babylonian religions.
EASTER (ISHTAR) WAS THE mother of the morning star -who's father is Baal.
Isis (is said to be Ishtar in Egyptians culture) is the
WIFE OF THE SUN GOD BAAL father of the morning star therefore Isis is Ishtar (easter)
Mary statues with son are actually predated Isis and baby Horus statues.
Do the math: you call Jesus the morning star (baals son). You celebrate Ishtar (easter) where the fish comes out the egg.
You use Isis statues as Mary.
The holy trinity is mystery Babylon revealed as Baal(father), Isis (mother), Morning star Jesus(son who is the myth plagiarized masking worship of the father).
This is why the number of his name:
Baal Jesus=666 in ascll numerology.
Which is why at the end of the Roman mockery where the punch line sits, they said Jesus was Lucifer (morning star)the son of Baal
-Rev 22:16
let's be Intellectualy honest and investigate who Mary really was;
Since Jesus and Mary are both borrowed figures from both historical and mythical characters then lets discuss wherw Mary's image stems from. 1st the historical.
The historical Mary was no virgin, this is a borrowed purity claim from previous godess queens.
The historical Mary comes mainly from Mary Stada of 100bc who's son Yeshu was the sentenced on passover Egyptian influenced sorcerer scammer.
Talmud Shabbos 104, the gemara explicitly discusses the mother being Stada and the father being Pandera. Which is why in Matthew it says Joseph had a mind to divorce her quietly (so she would not be stoned). More sources found in
Jerusalem Talmud (Avodah Zerah II 40d)and in the Tosefta on Hullin II, and (Sanhedrin 43a & 67a). This story is further expanded upon in the Tosefta and Baraitas.
2 accounts:
-Dr. Franz Hartman -
& Gerald Massey's Lectures Originally published in a private edition c. 1900
According to the Babylonian Gemara to the Mishna of Tract "Shabbath," this Jehoshua, the son of Pandira and Stada, was stoned to death as a wizard, in the city of Lud, or Lydda,
Jesus ben Stada (or Pandera) was placedin the time period of about 90 B.C. in Lydda, a town Peter is said to have visited in ACTS.
Interestingly, the early church father Epiphanius around 400 said Pandera was the grandfather of Jesus.
Since Rome favored the half Roman christ that they could blame his sentencing On the Jews they lifted high this Harlot Mary as a queen mother/ godess figure (thus called the Harlot church by other later era christ's followers).
To lift Mary as a glorious queen figure they needed to use prexisting borrowed mythology and ideas of purity and deified powers.
So now study the amplified lifted high Mary through the mystery religions (the glorious mysteries the church gives it's idol)
Semiramis, as the female divinity, would be called Baalti. This word translated into English means "My Lady." In Latin it would be translated "Mea Domina". This name becomes the name "Madonna" which is the name by which Mary is often referred. The same reasoning can be applied to the name of "Mediatrix", which Mary is also called. Mary received that title from "Mylitta" (mediatrix) which was one of the names of the Mother Goddess of Babylon. "The Queen of Heaven" is another name for Mary that has been adopted from the pagan Babylonian religions.
EASTER (ISHTAR) WAS THE mother of the morning star -who's father is Baal.
Isis (is said to be Ishtar in Egyptians culture) is the
WIFE OF THE SUN GOD BAAL father of the morning star therefore Isis is Ishtar (easter)
Mary statues with son are actually predated Isis and baby Horus statues.
Do the math: you call Jesus the morning star (baals son). You celebrate Ishtar (easter) where the fish comes out the egg.
You use Isis statues as Mary.
The holy trinity is mystery Babylon revealed as Baal(father), Isis (mother), Morning star Jesus(son who is the myth plagiarized masking worship of the father).
This is why the number of his name:
Baal Jesus=666 in ascll numerology.
Which is why at the end of the Roman mockery where the punch line sits, they said Jesus was Lucifer (morning star)the son of Baal
-Rev 22:16
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......so you believe Smolley who CLAIMED 2 white crackers attacked him in 20 below weather in Chicongo.......??!!!
..you don't need proof???
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you believe Smollet---yes or no?
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I'm on the offense. If you don't believe that's you. I don't care but I'll pray for you.
You need it
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The Galileo Controversy
Maybe those who don't know the facts should do some research. This might be a good start.
"If heliocentrism were true, then there would be observable parallax shifts in the stars’ positions as the earth moved in its orbit around the sun. However, given the technology of Galileo’s time, no such shifts in their positions could be observed. It would require more sensitive measuring equipment than was available in Galileo’s day to document the existence of these shifts, given the stars’ great distance. Until then, the available evidence suggested that the stars were fixed in their positions relative to the earth, and, thus, that the earth and the stars were not moving in space—only the sun, moon, and planets were."
Needed better technology to prove this. I first read about this in school in the late 60s early 70s and looked at the Maths at Uni in the 70s. Galileo was inconclusive in his proofs as they had no idea of the distances away of the stars. Now we know. The error was mixing Science and religion.
Greg
Maybe those who don't know the facts should do some research. This might be a good start.
"If heliocentrism were true, then there would be observable parallax shifts in the stars’ positions as the earth moved in its orbit around the sun. However, given the technology of Galileo’s time, no such shifts in their positions could be observed. It would require more sensitive measuring equipment than was available in Galileo’s day to document the existence of these shifts, given the stars’ great distance. Until then, the available evidence suggested that the stars were fixed in their positions relative to the earth, and, thus, that the earth and the stars were not moving in space—only the sun, moon, and planets were."
Needed better technology to prove this. I first read about this in school in the late 60s early 70s and looked at the Maths at Uni in the 70s. Galileo was inconclusive in his proofs as they had no idea of the distances away of the stars. Now we know. The error was mixing Science and religion.
Greg
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HaShev, judging by your other posts, I'm not Inclined to be extremely attentive. You're borrowing a lot from the Revelation metaphor. The Persian area was known at the 300 bcs as a Babylonian Empire that the Jewish state hated. They then also hated the Roman Empire and most people see this for Israel as a symbolic Babylon to Rome metaphor and the "Fallen Babylon" may even be the city of Rome "where traders" come and go. The Roman Tax Collectors were heavy and hated and not the every-day normal day tax collector, Imperial tax collectors.
The Old Testament Priests fought against Eastern Gods like Baal that you referenced.
The Old Testament Priests fought against Eastern Gods like Baal that you referenced.
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You do that, I'm praying for a new kitchen.
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Broke joke eh?
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well, he claimed something--yet you do not believe
....you claim something --and I do not believe---yet you call me names and stupid--that MAKES YOU stupid
hahahhahaha---you just made yourself out to be stupid--
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You can't prove you exist. Deal with it.
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I discussed Rome taking to the son of Mary figure, but the other christ's they despised because of revolt, & followers always argued PAUL was teaching another Christ then them and vice versa.
You talk about the Tax revolters what about discusing the Herod era Galilean tax revolter Yehuda used for the Jesus image? he was crucified in 4bc, fit the Herod(died 4bc) and Lysanias (died 35bc) era and Census (7bc).
Yes they hated the tax, but this band of thieves and thugs robbed and burned houses of anyone who paid the tax and supported Rome. And the third christ in this trinity was a sexual deviant in the Pilate era who used rich kid Lazarus for his money by sleeping with him. pick your poison, all 3 christs used for the Jesus image make for one big Roman mockery while swallowing up the christs movements and revolts to become the benefactors of, like they did many religions before them, they become the new authority hidden under the mask and cloak of religious purity.
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So you don't believe do you think that will change my mind?
You're stupid and fear the unknown it's obvious.
Sit down, stfu and worry about your own existence....nobody else cares
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So the APOSTLES , which is a group of Twelve Followers of Jesus, exclusively Rome-hating Jews, and their testimony who wrote most of the New Testament and personally established Churches throughout Europe which are also accounted in the Bible. I mean the 7 CHurches in Revelation are in Anatolia and the Macedonian Church, aren't any sort of plot? The Bible is accurately not edited for Roman Happy-Reads.
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