Zone1 Mary's Consent




Maybe it's just a joke. :dunno:
 
ding said:
She's a stand up comic doing comedy. Poking fun at her own faith. That's not how it is though.
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Really? So it's not based on any truth whatsoever then? For isn't comedy always based on a little bit of truth?
 
Road Runner said:
Really? So it's not based on any truth whatsoever then? For isn't comedy always based on a little bit of truth?
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Really. We have a lot of traditions and beliefs (guardian angels, etc.). I think that is what she was poking fun at.
 
ding said:
Really. We have a lot of traditions and beliefs (guardian angels, etc.). I think that is what she was poking fun at.
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I believe in guardian angels too but I only pray to Jesus/God the Father because that's what we're supposed to do.
 
Road Runner said:
Really? So it's not based on any truth whatsoever then? For isn't comedy always based on a little bit of truth?
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I tell people that if they want to know what Catholicism teaches to read the Catechism.

Here's the prologue:

I. The life of man - to know and love God

1 God, infinitely perfect and blessed in himself, in a plan of sheer goodness freely created man to make him share in his own blessed life. For this reason, at every time and in every place, God draws close to man. He calls man to seek him, to know him, to love him with all his strength. He calls together all men, scattered and divided by sin, into the unity of his family, the Church. To accomplish this, when the fullness of time had come, God sent his Son as Redeemer and Saviour. In his Son and through him, he invites men to become, in the Holy Spirit, his adopted children and thus heirs of his blessed life.

2 So that this call should resound throughout the world, Christ sent forth the apostles he had chosen, commissioning them to proclaim the gospel: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age."4 Strengthened by this mission, the apostles "went forth and preached everywhere, while the Lord worked with them and confirmed the message by the signs that attended it."5

3 Those who with God's help have welcomed Christ's call and freely responded to it are urged on by love of Christ to proclaim the Good News everywhere in the world. This treasure, received from the apostles, has been faithfully guarded by their successors. All Christ's faithful are called to hand it on from generation to generation, by professing the faith, by living it in fraternal sharing, and by celebrating it in liturgy and prayer.6

Catechism of the Catholic Church - IntraText

www.vatican.va
 
Road Runner said:
I believe in guardian angels too but I only pray to Jesus/God the Father because that's what we're supposed to do.
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Ok, me too. Do you ask others to pray for you? Because we do that.
 
ding said:
I tell people that if they want to know what Catholicism teaches to read the Catechism.

Here's the prologue:

I. The life of man - to know and love God

1 God, infinitely perfect and blessed in himself, in a plan of sheer goodness freely created man to make him share in his own blessed life. For this reason, at every time and in every place, God draws close to man. He calls man to seek him, to know him, to love him with all his strength. He calls together all men, scattered and divided by sin, into the unity of his family, the Church. To accomplish this, when the fullness of time had come, God sent his Son as Redeemer and Saviour. In his Son and through him, he invites men to become, in the Holy Spirit, his adopted children and thus heirs of his blessed life.

2 So that this call should resound throughout the world, Christ sent forth the apostles he had chosen, commissioning them to proclaim the gospel: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age."4 Strengthened by this mission, the apostles "went forth and preached everywhere, while the Lord worked with them and confirmed the message by the signs that attended it."5

3 Those who with God's help have welcomed Christ's call and freely responded to it are urged on by love of Christ to proclaim the Good News everywhere in the world. This treasure, received from the apostles, has been faithfully guarded by their successors. All Christ's faithful are called to hand it on from generation to generation, by professing the faith, by living it in fraternal sharing, and by celebrating it in liturgy and prayer.6

Catechism of the Catholic Church - IntraText

www.vatican.va
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Well I don't see any problems there.

ding said:
Ok, me too. Do you ask others to pray for you? Because we do that.
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Yes but why go through Mary to ask to speak to Jesus instead of speaking directly to Him first if you're praying yourself anyways?
 
Road Runner said:
Well I don't see any problems there.



Yes but why go through Mary to ask to speak to Jesus instead of speaking directly to Him first if you're praying yourself anyways?
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It's like when you ask someone you think is really close to God to pray for you. No difference. You aren't praying to them. You are asking them to pray for you.
 
ding said:
It's like when you ask someone you think is really close to God to pray for you. No difference. You aren't praying to them. You are asking them to pray for you.
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Whatever. You do you.
 
Road Runner said:
Really? Because I see an awful lot of glorifying Mary and not an awful lot glorifying Jesus Christ and you can't even pray to Jesus either can you? As apparently He has secretaries that you have to go through first.
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Where are you getting all your information? We do not glorify Mary. We honor her as we do many Saints. The remark about secretaries is pure ignorance. Why the hostility towards the Catholic faith?
 
Meriweather said:
Where are you getting all your information? We do not glorify Mary. We honor her as we do many Saints. The remark about secretaries is pure ignorance. Why the hostility towards the Catholic faith?
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You bow down and pray to your "saints". You also bow down to their stone images

catholics-pray-mary.webp
 
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