Let us call the trump tantrum what it REALLY WAS....an attempted Coup!

Again, are you saying no president has ever used foreign aid to get a country to do what it wants them to do?

Hahahaha not at all. I'm saying when Trump asked the Ukraine President to announce an investigation into Trumps chief political rival in the next election, (or he wouldn't get the aid), that was the corrupt act. Not simply using foreign aid to get a country to follow US policy.

So if it wasn't Biden's son it would be OK?

You are saying be the son of a Presidential candidate gives you immunity from investigation?
 

SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.

"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
That's kind of a weird question. If a year from know voter fraud massive enough to have changed the outcome is proven Biden would have been sworn in and there would no absolutely no mechanism to redress the situation it would be a constitutional crisis beyond what I can speculate.

Having said that. I've seen multiple press conferences now from Trumps "elite legal team" they talked about massive evidence. So if I accept your premise that would mean they are lying. If they are lying about having evidence to the extent that the president is willing to urge states to ignore the results and appoint their own electors the premise of the OP would be correct.

It would be a mess, that's for sure.

The thing is their evidence is probably only circumstantial right now because they probably don't have legal access or time to get the access to the actual ballots, programming and records.

My issue is simple. Loss of House Seats, Probably no control of Senate, the bellweather counties being wrong for the first time in forever, all the shennanigans happening in Dem controlled clusters, and all leading toward late surges in Biden votes that led him to win.

now reverse the names, and honestly tell me as a Biden supporter that you wouldn't be skeptical?
Contact logic....

- Republicans gained seats in the House

- Republicans [likely] retain control of the Senate

- Trump gets some 11 million more votes than he got in 2016

Democrats cheated!!

I noticed you ignored my concern about all those votes flooding into Dem controlled areas late that swung the elections.
I ignored your hallucinations.

Nah, you just ducked the points like the hack you are.

Die.
 
Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

Considering that he attempted to strong arm an ally, with US foreign aid, into performing a political favor and corrupt act, and the Banana Republicans accepted that corruption. Why would they consider him inappropriately injecting himself into a few states legislatures a corruption problem?

Wow, back to calling usual political maneuvering some sort of crime....

but but but somehow its different when Trump does it because of "reasons"

When did I call those acts a crime? The corrupt acts I described are not usual political maneuverings. They are not crimes codified in laws because nobody ever thought a President, or should I say a political party, would let a President get away with such blatant corruption.

But I suppose if Nixon had Faux News, the party might haave stood behind him.

Corruption is a crime. Again, are you saying no president has ever used foreign aid to get a country to do what it wants them to do?

Isn't that the whole fucking purpose of foreign aid?

Where is the law that says a president can't use foreign aid like that? Only one Republican Senator voted to convict.
 
Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

Considering that he attempted to strong arm an ally, with US foreign aid, into performing a political favor and corrupt act, and the Banana Republicans accepted that corruption. Why would they consider him inappropriately injecting himself into a few states legislatures a corruption problem?

Wow, back to calling usual political maneuvering some sort of crime....

but but but somehow its different when Trump does it because of "reasons"

When did I call those acts a crime? The corrupt acts I described are not usual political maneuverings. They are not crimes codified in laws because nobody ever thought a President, or should I say a political party, would let a President get away with such blatant corruption.

But I suppose if Nixon had Faux News, the party might haave stood behind him.

Corruption is a crime. Again, are you saying no president has ever used foreign aid to get a country to do what it wants them to do?

Isn't that the whole fucking purpose of foreign aid?
the purpose of foreign aid is certainly not to get the foreign country to sling mud for you against your likely opponent. lol.

Wow, talk about being ignorant.
you want to make the case that foreign aid is for that purpose, fatso? i would not be surprised.

It's always been the case, it's just different for Trump because of "reasons"
give an example, fatso. you know, of a US president trying to use tax payer money to strong arm a foreign country to help him get re-elected. we can then look at that example and proceed. until then, you are just queefing about. as usual.
 
Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

Considering that he attempted to strong arm an ally, with US foreign aid, into performing a political favor and corrupt act, and the Banana Republicans accepted that corruption. Why would they consider him inappropriately injecting himself into a few states legislatures a corruption problem?

I ask you again....WHY should the voters trust the GOP to govern this country again, after seeing them bow to an attempted Coup?

I think a better question for Democrats is why so many voters did trust Trumps Banana Republicans. Imo, messaging from the alt-right hits their targets better than the left? "Defund the Police" Tying "BLM to the riots" with a continuous loop of the riots., as well as playing on the fears of Socialist Dictators to the Latino population.

Dems need better messaging. Their reasoning is sound, but it doesn't fit on a bumper sticker.

But, "Fuck Freedom, More Government" easily fits on a bumper sticker.
Funny coming from a member of the herd who sold this actual bumper sticker...

71ridsOa9ZL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

I find the sentiment accurate.

If progressive SJW morons like you want outright war, fine.
LOLOLOL

Marty, you and I both know if such war breaks out, you won't put your phone down and get your lazy ass off the couch. Who the fuck do you think you're fooling?

:abgg2q.jpg:
 

SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.

"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?

Wasn't the impeachment legal? It didn't stop plenty of posters here from calling it an attempted coup.

USMB likes to call things attempted coups, apparently. :lol:

The thing is no one of matter is calling for the perpetrators of the impeachment to be removed via any other method than being voted out.
Oh, I’m pretty sure I’ve read a number of posts here calling for arrests, life sentences, and executions because of the impeachment ;)

I honestly don’t know why I still sometimes hope for better.
 
Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

Considering that he attempted to strong arm an ally, with US foreign aid, into performing a political favor and corrupt act, and the Banana Republicans accepted that corruption. Why would they consider him inappropriately injecting himself into a few states legislatures a corruption problem?

Wow, back to calling usual political maneuvering some sort of crime....

but but but somehow its different when Trump does it because of "reasons"

When did I call those acts a crime? The corrupt acts I described are not usual political maneuverings. They are not crimes codified in laws because nobody ever thought a President, or should I say a political party, would let a President get away with such blatant corruption.

But I suppose if Nixon had Faux News, the party might haave stood behind him.

Corruption is a crime. Again, are you saying no president has ever used foreign aid to get a country to do what it wants them to do?

Isn't that the whole fucking purpose of foreign aid?
the purpose of foreign aid is certainly not to get the foreign country to sling mud for you against your likely opponent. lol.

Wow, talk about being ignorant.
you want to make the case that foreign aid is for that purpose, fatso? i would not be surprised.

It's always been the case, it's just different for Trump because of "reasons"
give an example, fatso. you know, of a US president trying to use tax payer money to strong arm a foreign country to help him get re-elected. we can then look at that example and proceed. until then, you are just queefing about. as usual.

Like the press would ever release info on that about a Dem president.....

"Provide evidence our MSM butt buddies will hide for us"

Nice.
 

SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.

"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?

He has had more than ample time to prove his case. The nations top CONSERVATIVE legal teams have all stepped away from this lie of fraud. Can not you see?.....trump has been lying through the entirely of this Regime. It all started when he lied about the size of his inauguration and his hands....and he has not stopped in four years.

You should have gotten a hint when he appointed dye bleeding Rudy to head his case. He was the last attorney in the country who was willing to peddle trump's fraud lie.

There will never be enough fraud proven to overturn this election. The incompetence and audacity of a Narcissistic Sociopath doomed his own re-election when he decided to LIE to the American People about a deadly virus. That is what took trump down. Did God send the Pandemic to save America from Authoritarianism? Think about it.....

Wow, now it "enough fraud to overturn" instead of no fraud.

What a goalpost moving little shit you are.

Don't be a horse's ars....there are always irregularities in the vote...and some fraud was found by committed by REPUBLICANS.

 
Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

Considering that he attempted to strong arm an ally, with US foreign aid, into performing a political favor and corrupt act, and the Banana Republicans accepted that corruption. Why would they consider him inappropriately injecting himself into a few states legislatures a corruption problem?

Wow, back to calling usual political maneuvering some sort of crime....

but but but somehow its different when Trump does it because of "reasons"

When did I call those acts a crime? The corrupt acts I described are not usual political maneuverings. They are not crimes codified in laws because nobody ever thought a President, or should I say a political party, would let a President get away with such blatant corruption.

But I suppose if Nixon had Faux News, the party might haave stood behind him.

Corruption is a crime. Again, are you saying no president has ever used foreign aid to get a country to do what it wants them to do?

Isn't that the whole fucking purpose of foreign aid?

Okay, let's look at the Logan Act and apply it to Biden and then to The Orange Criminal.

The Logan Act is a United States federal law that criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized American citizens with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. The intent behind the Act is to prevent unauthorized negotiations from undermining the government's position

Biden had the authorization from the President AND Congress for his action. He not only had authorization he had the support. And his action was NOT for personal gain. No violation of the Logan act.

The Orange one did NOT have authorization from Congress. And it was for his own personal gain. Plus, it harmed the status of the United States of America. This was a clear Logan Act violation.

The President is authorized, so your argument is moot.

Cram the Logan act back up your well used ass.

He broke other parts of the Logan Act. The President is NOT authorized to attempt to use foreign aid for his own personal use. He is NOT authorized to coerce others in our Government to lie about it. He is NOT authorized to attempt to cover it up. And through his actions and his agents, it harmed to Nation. It goes a lot deeper than just the Logan Act. WE either need to bag him on this or we need to pass laws to prevent anything like that from happening again.
 
Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

Considering that he attempted to strong arm an ally, with US foreign aid, into performing a political favor and corrupt act, and the Banana Republicans accepted that corruption. Why would they consider him inappropriately injecting himself into a few states legislatures a corruption problem?

Wow, back to calling usual political maneuvering some sort of crime....

but but but somehow its different when Trump does it because of "reasons"

When did I call those acts a crime? The corrupt acts I described are not usual political maneuverings. They are not crimes codified in laws because nobody ever thought a President, or should I say a political party, would let a President get away with such blatant corruption.

But I suppose if Nixon had Faux News, the party might haave stood behind him.

Corruption is a crime. Again, are you saying no president has ever used foreign aid to get a country to do what it wants them to do?

Isn't that the whole fucking purpose of foreign aid?
the purpose of foreign aid is certainly not to get the foreign country to sling mud for you against your likely opponent. lol.

Wow, talk about being ignorant.
you want to make the case that foreign aid is for that purpose, fatso? i would not be surprised.

It's always been the case, it's just different for Trump because of "reasons"
give an example, fatso. you know, of a US president trying to use tax payer money to strong arm a foreign country to help him get re-elected. we can then look at that example and proceed. until then, you are just queefing about. as usual.

Like the press would ever release info on that about a Dem president.....

"Provide evidence our MSM butt buddies will hide for us"

Nice.
see, moar queefery. you should be embarrassed. but you are not. you are still busy gobbling the massive election fraud bait provided by your leader.
 
Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

Considering that he attempted to strong arm an ally, with US foreign aid, into performing a political favor and corrupt act, and the Banana Republicans accepted that corruption. Why would they consider him inappropriately injecting himself into a few states legislatures a corruption problem?

I ask you again....WHY should the voters trust the GOP to govern this country again, after seeing them bow to an attempted Coup?

I think a better question for Democrats is why so many voters did trust Trumps Banana Republicans. Imo, messaging from the alt-right hits their targets better than the left? "Defund the Police" Tying "BLM to the riots" with a continuous loop of the riots., as well as playing on the fears of Socialist Dictators to the Latino population.

Dems need better messaging. Their reasoning is sound, but it doesn't fit on a bumper sticker.

But, "Fuck Freedom, More Government" easily fits on a bumper sticker.
Funny coming from a member of the herd who sold this actual bumper sticker...

71ridsOa9ZL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

I find the sentiment accurate.

If progressive SJW morons like you want outright war, fine.
LOLOLOL

Marty, you and I both know if such war breaks out, you won't put your phone down and get your lazy ass off the couch. Who the fuck do you think you're fooling?

:abgg2q.jpg:

Actually when people like me who follow the law decide it isn't worth it anymore is when people like you should really be afraid.

The Chump Effect | City Journal
 
Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

Considering that he attempted to strong arm an ally, with US foreign aid, into performing a political favor and corrupt act, and the Banana Republicans accepted that corruption. Why would they consider him inappropriately injecting himself into a few states legislatures a corruption problem?

Wow, back to calling usual political maneuvering some sort of crime....

but but but somehow its different when Trump does it because of "reasons"

When did I call those acts a crime? The corrupt acts I described are not usual political maneuverings. They are not crimes codified in laws because nobody ever thought a President, or should I say a political party, would let a President get away with such blatant corruption.

But I suppose if Nixon had Faux News, the party might haave stood behind him.

Corruption is a crime. Again, are you saying no president has ever used foreign aid to get a country to do what it wants them to do?

Isn't that the whole fucking purpose of foreign aid?
the purpose of foreign aid is certainly not to get the foreign country to sling mud for you against your likely opponent. lol.

Wow, talk about being ignorant.
you want to make the case that foreign aid is for that purpose, fatso? i would not be surprised.

It's always been the case, it's just different for Trump because of "reasons"
give an example, fatso. you know, of a US president trying to use tax payer money to strong arm a foreign country to help him get re-elected. we can then look at that example and proceed. until then, you are just queefing about. as usual.

Like the press would ever release info on that about a Dem president.....

"Provide evidence our MSM butt buddies will hide for us"

Nice.
see, moar queefery. you should be embarrassed. but you are not. you are still busy gobbling the massive election fraud bait provided by your leader.

More things the way I and others like me see it, millions of us.
 

SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.

"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?
That's kind of a weird question. If a year from know voter fraud massive enough to have changed the outcome is proven Biden would have been sworn in and there would no absolutely no mechanism to redress the situation it would be a constitutional crisis beyond what I can speculate.

Having said that. I've seen multiple press conferences now from Trumps "elite legal team" they talked about massive evidence. So if I accept your premise that would mean they are lying. If they are lying about having evidence to the extent that the president is willing to urge states to ignore the results and appoint their own electors the premise of the OP would be correct.

It would be a mess, that's for sure.

The thing is their evidence is probably only circumstantial right now because they probably don't have legal access or time to get the access to the actual ballots, programming and records.

My issue is simple. Loss of House Seats, Probably no control of Senate, the bellweather counties being wrong for the first time in forever, all the shennanigans happening in Dem controlled clusters, and all leading toward late surges in Biden votes that led him to win.

now reverse the names, and honestly tell me as a Biden supporter that you wouldn't be skeptical?
Contact logic....

- Republicans gained seats in the House

- Republicans [likely] retain control of the Senate

- Trump gets some 11 million more votes than he got in 2016

Democrats cheated!!

I noticed you ignored my concern about all those votes flooding into Dem controlled areas late that swung the elections.
I ignored your hallucinations.

Nah, you just ducked the points like the hack you are.

Die.
Your "points" are not rooted in reality. Thus, they were given the proper attention.
 
Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

Considering that he attempted to strong arm an ally, with US foreign aid, into performing a political favor and corrupt act, and the Banana Republicans accepted that corruption. Why would they consider him inappropriately injecting himself into a few states legislatures a corruption problem?

Wow, back to calling usual political maneuvering some sort of crime....

but but but somehow its different when Trump does it because of "reasons"

When did I call those acts a crime? The corrupt acts I described are not usual political maneuverings. They are not crimes codified in laws because nobody ever thought a President, or should I say a political party, would let a President get away with such blatant corruption.

But I suppose if Nixon had Faux News, the party might haave stood behind him.

Corruption is a crime. Again, are you saying no president has ever used foreign aid to get a country to do what it wants them to do?

Isn't that the whole fucking purpose of foreign aid?

Okay, let's look at the Logan Act and apply it to Biden and then to The Orange Criminal.

The Logan Act is a United States federal law that criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized American citizens with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. The intent behind the Act is to prevent unauthorized negotiations from undermining the government's position

Biden had the authorization from the President AND Congress for his action. He not only had authorization he had the support. And his action was NOT for personal gain. No violation of the Logan act.

The Orange one did NOT have authorization from Congress. And it was for his own personal gain. Plus, it harmed the status of the United States of America. This was a clear Logan Act violation.

The President is authorized, so your argument is moot.

Cram the Logan act back up your well used ass.

He broke other parts of the Logan Act. The President is NOT authorized to attempt to use foreign aid for his own personal use. He is NOT authorized to coerce others in our Government to lie about it. He is NOT authorized to attempt to cover it up. And through his actions and his agents, it harmed to Nation. It goes a lot deeper than just the Logan Act. WE either need to bag him on this or we need to pass laws to prevent anything like that from happening again.

Fuh Fuh Fuh, Logan Act, Fuh Fuh Fuh.

Can you reference a successful use of the logan act as a prosecution?
 
Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

Considering that he attempted to strong arm an ally, with US foreign aid, into performing a political favor and corrupt act, and the Banana Republicans accepted that corruption. Why would they consider him inappropriately injecting himself into a few states legislatures a corruption problem?

Wow, back to calling usual political maneuvering some sort of crime....

but but but somehow its different when Trump does it because of "reasons"

When did I call those acts a crime? The corrupt acts I described are not usual political maneuverings. They are not crimes codified in laws because nobody ever thought a President, or should I say a political party, would let a President get away with such blatant corruption.

But I suppose if Nixon had Faux News, the party might haave stood behind him.

Corruption is a crime. Again, are you saying no president has ever used foreign aid to get a country to do what it wants them to do?

Isn't that the whole fucking purpose of foreign aid?
the purpose of foreign aid is certainly not to get the foreign country to sling mud for you against your likely opponent. lol.

Wow, talk about being ignorant.
you want to make the case that foreign aid is for that purpose, fatso? i would not be surprised.

It's always been the case, it's just different for Trump because of "reasons"
give an example, fatso. you know, of a US president trying to use tax payer money to strong arm a foreign country to help him get re-elected. we can then look at that example and proceed. until then, you are just queefing about. as usual.

Like the press would ever release info on that about a Dem president.....

"Provide evidence our MSM butt buddies will hide for us"

Nice.
see, moar queefery. you should be embarrassed. but you are not. you are still busy gobbling the massive election fraud bait provided by your leader.

More things the way I and others like me see it, millions of us.
i don't care for your delusions, obese trumptard. i am simply calling out your lies and your idiocy. it is noted that you cannot support anything you queef.
 
Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

Considering that he attempted to strong arm an ally, with US foreign aid, into performing a political favor and corrupt act, and the Banana Republicans accepted that corruption. Why would they consider him inappropriately injecting himself into a few states legislatures a corruption problem?

Wow, back to calling usual political maneuvering some sort of crime....

but but but somehow its different when Trump does it because of "reasons"

When did I call those acts a crime? The corrupt acts I described are not usual political maneuverings. They are not crimes codified in laws because nobody ever thought a President, or should I say a political party, would let a President get away with such blatant corruption.

But I suppose if Nixon had Faux News, the party might haave stood behind him.

Corruption is a crime. Again, are you saying no president has ever used foreign aid to get a country to do what it wants them to do?

Isn't that the whole fucking purpose of foreign aid?

Where is the law that says a president can't use foreign aid like that? Only one Republican Senator voted to convict.
80 million Americans voted to convict.

tenor.gif
 

SO...we had an Authoritarian Wannabe that was intent on taking the vote and the will of the people away. This is the same man who wanted his AG to arrest his political opponents in the last few weeks of the election. Now he was prepared to pull out his Dictator magic wand and wish away millions of legal votes. AND THE GOP WAS SITTING ON THEIR HANDS READY TO ALLOW HIM TO DO IT.

Now...tell me how either the GOP or trump can be trusted to govern this country again? The Party of Lincoln has become the Taliban of the United States.

"legal"

Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

The simple fact is there simply isn't enough time to prove enough fraud, even if it happened, in the time given between the election and the certifications.

If the fraud is proven a year from now, would you condemn it? Would Biden Step down?

He has had more than ample time to prove his case. The nations top CONSERVATIVE legal teams have all stepped away from this lie of fraud. Can not you see?.....trump has been lying through the entirely of this Regime. It all started when he lied about the size of his inauguration and his hands....and he has not stopped in four years.

You should have gotten a hint when he appointed dye bleeding Rudy to head his case. He was the last attorney in the country who was willing to peddle trump's fraud lie.

There will never be enough fraud proven to overturn this election. The incompetence and audacity of a Narcissistic Sociopath doomed his own re-election when he decided to LIE to the American People about a deadly virus. That is what took trump down. Did God send the Pandemic to save America from Authoritarianism? Think about it.....

Wow, now it "enough fraud to overturn" instead of no fraud.

What a goalpost moving little shit you are.

Don't be a horse's ars....there are always irregularities in the vote...and some fraud was found by committed by REPUBLICANS.


Yet the irregularities that mattered all happened in large Dem controlled areas, and all helped Biden get elected.

Yet the house went more to Republicans, yet many States went more to republicans, yet many republican areas in the States where the cities had issues went more to republicans.

Yet the Senate is a toss-up in a year where Dems had an easier chance of gains.

And all in a year where early and mail in voting made it easier to cheat.
 
Again, are you saying no president has ever used foreign aid to get a country to do what it wants them to do?

Hahahaha not at all. I'm saying when Trump asked the Ukraine President to announce an investigation into Trumps chief political rival in the next election, (or he wouldn't get the aid), that was the corrupt act. Not simply using foreign aid to get a country to follow US policy.

So if it wasn't Biden's son it would be OK?

You are saying be the son of a Presidential candidate gives you immunity from investigation?

Nice sidestep.
 
Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

Considering that he attempted to strong arm an ally, with US foreign aid, into performing a political favor and corrupt act, and the Banana Republicans accepted that corruption. Why would they consider him inappropriately injecting himself into a few states legislatures a corruption problem?

I ask you again....WHY should the voters trust the GOP to govern this country again, after seeing them bow to an attempted Coup?

I think a better question for Democrats is why so many voters did trust Trumps Banana Republicans. Imo, messaging from the alt-right hits their targets better than the left? "Defund the Police" Tying "BLM to the riots" with a continuous loop of the riots., as well as playing on the fears of Socialist Dictators to the Latino population.

Dems need better messaging. Their reasoning is sound, but it doesn't fit on a bumper sticker.

But, "Fuck Freedom, More Government" easily fits on a bumper sticker.
Funny coming from a member of the herd who sold this actual bumper sticker...

71ridsOa9ZL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

I find the sentiment accurate.

If progressive SJW morons like you want outright war, fine.
LOLOLOL

Marty, you and I both know if such war breaks out, you won't put your phone down and get your lazy ass off the couch. Who the fuck do you think you're fooling?

:abgg2q.jpg:

Actually when people like me who follow the law decide it isn't worth it anymore is when people like you should really be afraid.

The Chump Effect | City Journal

There is a chump effect here. When a law is passed, you usually don't back date it. It becomes effective on a given date and everything past that point is covered. Those before it are not. Is that clear enough for you chump ass?
 
Nothing he has done so far is outside the law.

Considering that he attempted to strong arm an ally, with US foreign aid, into performing a political favor and corrupt act, and the Banana Republicans accepted that corruption. Why would they consider him inappropriately injecting himself into a few states legislatures a corruption problem?

Wow, back to calling usual political maneuvering some sort of crime....

but but but somehow its different when Trump does it because of "reasons"

When did I call those acts a crime? The corrupt acts I described are not usual political maneuverings. They are not crimes codified in laws because nobody ever thought a President, or should I say a political party, would let a President get away with such blatant corruption.

But I suppose if Nixon had Faux News, the party might haave stood behind him.

Corruption is a crime. Again, are you saying no president has ever used foreign aid to get a country to do what it wants them to do?

Isn't that the whole fucking purpose of foreign aid?

Where is the law that says a president can't use foreign aid like that? Only one Republican Senator voted to convict.
80 million Americans voted to convict.

tenor.gif

74 Million didn't. That's a hung jury, not a conviction.
 

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