keys to the kingdom

[ding]

Which makes his assertion that Lazarus' mourners were mourning his loss of faith in Jesus and doing a Pharisee ritual.

His sophistry is off the chart and rather unclever. Hobelim is a bit of a dullard.

 

[hobelim]

You believe the creator, Jesus, can't control the creation, this world.

Jesus was not and is not the creator. That is just incomprehensibly absurd and ridiculous.

But right.

Jesus was just a Jewish man who did not control the weather. WTF! He told the raging sea and the approaching storm clouds to "be calm". That's just as miraculous as if a long haired hippie type libtard told the January 6th rioting constitutional traitors to "be calm" and they listened, as they acted like animals, assaulting cops, smashing windows and doors, only to shit on a desk, while storming the Capitol building trying to lynch Pence.



Capisce? ¿Entiendes? אידיוט מזוין

 

[ding]

Which makes his assertion that Lazarus' mourners were mourning his loss of faith in Jesus and doing a Pharisee ritual.

It's crazy how he makes stuff up. The more passages you bring up the farther fetched his fantasies get.

 

[hobelim]

His sophistry is off the chart and rather unclever. Hobelim is a bit of a dullard.

You just responded to an incoherent sentence.

 

[hobelim]

It's crazy how he makes stuff up. The more passages you bring up the farther fetched his fantasies get.

Says the dufus who "believes" that Jesus was a trinity that became an edible mangod.

 

[ding]

Jesus was not and is not the creator.

Incorrect. Jesus is God. The OT is men seeking God. It's chock full of embellishments that show God on their side. Nothing supernatural at all. Just Jewish men crafting narratives of historical events that made God look bad. The NT is God seeking man and setting Jewish record straight.

 

[ding]

You just responded to an incoherent sentence.

I understood it just fine, but then again I'm not a dullard like you who keeps deleting posts and reposting them.

 

[ding]

Says the dufus who "believes" that Jesus was a trinity that became an edible mangod.

Jesus is God. He came to set the Jews straight because they were making him look bad.

 

[hobelim]

The NT is God seeking man

Wrong. The NT was written by unknown Jewish authors who witnessed the complete destruction of Judea, the temple, their way of life, and the enslavement, exile, and slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent Jewish men women and children.

The Gospels were the first century equivalent of the nuclear option.

"I have not come to bring peace but a sword."

"Take from my hand this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword that I am sending among them."

"From his mouth there went a sharp sword with which TO SMITE the nations"

"Take this cup of wine and drink it, all of you. This is a cup of my blood, the blood of the covenant,"

"Just art thou, in these thy judgments thou Holy One who art and wast; for they shed the blood of thy people and of thy prophets and thou hast given them blood to drink,"

"He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword."

 

[ding]

Which makes his assertion that Lazarus' mourners were mourning his loss of faith in Jesus and doing a Pharisee ritual.

Just keeping asking him about different passages and see how long it takes before his head explodes.

 

[ding]

Wrong. The NT was written by unknown Jewish authors who witnessed the complete destruction of Judea, the temple, their way of life, and the enslavement, exile, and slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent Jewish men women and children.

The Gospels were the first century equivalent of the nuclear option.

Nope. The NT is the historical record of Jesus is God. How else do you explain the concerted effort the gospels make to show Jesus is God? You can't. There's no other explanation.

 

[ding]

Jesus was just a Jewish man who did not control the weather.

But the gospels show that he did and even much more than that. Ergo Jesus is God. How else do you explain the gospels?

 

[ding]

That's just as miraculous as if a long haired hippie type libtard told the January 6th rioting constitutional traitors to "be calm" and they listened, as they acted like animals, assaulting cops, smashing windows and doors, only to shit on a desk, while storming the Capitol building trying to lynch Pence.

Is that worse than the genocide of the Palestinians?

 

[hobelim]

How else do you explain the concerted effort the gospels make to show Jesus is God? You can't.

Oh please.

How do you explain the concerted effort to show that a puppet became a real boy?

There's no other explanation.

Bullshit. The only rational explanation is to teach children something of great value.

 

[ding]

Oh please.

How do you explain the concerted effort to show that a puppet became a real boy?

Because the tale of Pinocchio was written as fiction. The New Testament was written as an historical record. So how do you explain the NT being written as an historical record?

Bullshit. The only rational explanation is to teach children something of great value.

That doesn't make any sense. The New Testament was written as an historical record. So how do you explain the NT being written as an historical record?

 

[hobelim]

Because the tale of Pinocchio was written as fiction. The New Testament was written as an historical record. So how do you explain the NT being written as an historical record?

To smite "the nations". It was just like malware uploaded right into the belly of the beast.

That doesn't make any sense. The New Testament was written as an historical record. So how do you explain the NT being written as an historical record?

To smite "the nations. It was just like malware uploaded right into the belly of the beast.

"Take, from my hand, this cup of fiery wine and make all "the nations" to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword that I am sending among them."




If I said it again would it matter?

 

[ding]

To smite "the nations". It was just like malware uploaded right into the belly of the beast.


To smite "the nations. It was just like malware uploaded right into the belly of the beast.

"Take, from my hand, this cup of fiery wine and make all "the nations" to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword that I am sending among them."




If I said it again would it matter?

That's some batshit crazy sophistry right there. The NT is the historical record of Jesus is God.

While the New Testament (NT) writers used varying approaches, establishing the divinity of Christ (His full equality with God) was a major driving purpose for the entire collection. [1]

Differing Approaches Among the Writers

• The Gospels: The four Gospels approach Christ's divinity in distinct ways.
  • John: Explicitly states that Jesus is God incarnate from the opening verses (e.g., "The Word was God") and features multiple "I AM" statements.
  • Matthew, Mark, and Luke (Synoptics): Use a more "Hebraic" approach. They present Jesus as divine by showing Him doing things only Yahweh could do: forgiving sins, walking on water, and claiming authority over the Sabbath. [1, 2, 3, 5]
• The Epistles (Paul and others): Paul’s letters—the earliest written parts of the NT—feature a "high Christology" that attributes divine worship, titles, and creative power to Jesus. [1]

The Specific Purpose of John
While all NT authors believed Jesus to be divine, the Gospel of John includes an explicit, stated purpose for why his account was written. In John 20:31, the author directly states: [1, 2, 3]

"But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name."

Theological Shifts
The belief in Christ's divinity was not a later invention. Early Christians—who were strict, monotheistic Jews—had to rapidly expand their understanding of God to include Jesus. They did this because they believed His resurrection and teachings proved He was God in human flesh.

 

[ding]

To smite "the nations". It was just like malware uploaded right into the belly of the beast.


To smite "the nations. It was just like malware uploaded right into the belly of the beast.

"Take, from my hand, this cup of fiery wine and make all "the nations" to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword that I am sending among them."




If I said it again would it matter?

The OT is full of Jewish embellishment.

The NT is full of historical facts.

#winning

 

[ding]

There are no hidden messages. There are no hidden meanings. It's all straightforward. Jesus is God.

 

[hadit]

To smite "the nations". It was just like malware uploaded right into the belly of the beast.


To smite "the nations. It was just like malware uploaded right into the belly of the beast.

"Take, from my hand, this cup of fiery wine and make all "the nations" to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword that I am sending among them."




If I said it again would it matter?

There is no doubt, the early church regarded Jesus as God incarnate, but you know better than the ones who walked, talked, and ate with Him.