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[hobelim]

Where is your evidence that the Jews of the day were mourning Lazarus losing his faith in Jesus? My evidence is the plain text of the Scripture.

You seem to have forgotten to include reality in your speculations. You know, what you have been subject to since birth. Reality is used by the intelligent as a constant reliable constraint when trying to understand what was written in scripture using figurative language from the first page to the last to learn the lessons being taught and what the stories are literally about.

No one after decomposing for four days in a desert tomb waltzes out as if nothing happened just because Jesus said so. Thats a fact. Here is your dilemma. If you are wrong, as I say so, and as reality, common sense, thousands of years of traditional Jewish literary devices used for teaching, and the Pharisaic ritual cleansing practices of the time confirm, then you died a very long time ago and wasted your time on earth believing in lies, setting aside Divine Law, and misleading others to do the same, which amounts to murder. Murderer.

 

[hadit]

Unbalanced?

Pssst! I was poking fun at you and ding. Even with eyeballs you were blind to that too! lol

No, you were lashing out petulantly because you knew you had no substantive reply. You sounded like a 5-year-old thinking he can overcome an embarrassment by acting a fool.

 

[hadit]

You seem to have forgotten to include reality in your speculations. You know, what you have been subject to since birth. Reality is used by the intelligent as a constant reliable constraint when trying to understand what was written in scripture that uses figurative language from the first page to the last, to learn the lessons being taught and what the stories are literally about.

And God controls reality. Jesus had power over death, sickness, nature, and the devil himself. You seem to be unable to acknowledge that. Just admit it, you have nothing to back up your assertions. You just keep repeating that the creator cannot control the creation. Sad.

No one after decomposing for four days in a desert tomb waltzes out as if nothing happened just because Jesus said so. Thats a fact.

Bingo, exactly they don't come on their own. That's why it was such a miracle. But, they do if Jesus tells them to come out. Too bad you can't even see the truth in what you say.

Here is your dilemma. If you are wrong, as I say so, and as reality, common sense, thousands of years of traditional Jewish literary devices used for teaching, and the Pharisaic ritual cleansing practices of the time confirm, then you died a very long time ago and wasted your time on earth believing in lies, setting aside Divine Law, and misleading others to do the same, which amounts to murder. Murderer.

A ritual conducted because Lazarus lost his faith in Jesus that brought the Jews out to mourn? Present evidence for this assertion beyond your mere statement. And it better be solid evidence because your assertion makes no sense. The Jews of the day would not have come out to mourn because Lazarus lost his faith in Jesus.

Again, you've presented nothing beyond your assertions. You're just restating the same things, hoping against hope they'll finally stick this time. Hint, they are not sticking any better than the last 847 times you've said them with no backing whatsoever. I have the Word without saying, "Well, I know it says that, but it doesn't mean that, it means the complete opposite".

 

[hobelim]

No, you were lashing out petulantly because you knew you had no substantive reply.

Sounds like pure projection to me. Lame. My reply was sound, logical, and rooted in well known and widely used literary techniques used by every author from every epoch that ever wrote a book to educate others, not to mention verifiable scientific and historical facts.

You sounded like a 5-year-old thinking he can overcome an embarrassment by acting a fool.

Ahem. You are the one who is confounded and embarrassed for believing that a trinity diddled a virgin to become an imaginary mangod who performed supernatural demonstrations of power over realty and was crucified for your sins, so you don't have to be held accountable, even though by swallowing such obvious bullshit you died and are suffering the consequences for your own sins.

And whats worse. You profess to be a genuine believer but don't haver the faith to repent.



Hey, I get it.

I would be embarrassed too for falling for such an obvious fourth century Roman joke.

 

[hadit]

Yeah I know! Who wouldn't love a trinity that became a baby boy who became a human sacrifice and died just for your sins so you can remain oblivious for life and sin with impunity while you get fleeced and shafted by demons for every day of your life rotting in Gehenna.

Yup, there it is, that moldy old corpse I killed a long time ago. You like to say people are dead and don't know it, well that one died and you're still waving it around like it's supposed to scare somebody and stuff.

 

[hadit]

Sounds like pure projection to me. Lame. My reply was sound, logical, and rooted in well known and widely used literary techniques used by every author from every epoch that ever wrote a book to educate others, not to mention verifiable scientific and historical facts.

And you still think the creator can't control the creation. Sad.

Ahem. You are the one who is confounded and embarrassed for believing that a trinity diddled a virgin to become an imaginary mangod who performed supernatural demonstrations of power over realty and was crucified for your sins, so you don't have to, even though by swallowing such obvious bullshit you died and are suffering the consequences for your own sins.

Wow, you still haven't updated your database of useless assertions, have you? Hint, I demolished that one a long time ago. It's dead and you just haven't realized it yet.

And whats worse. You profess to be a genuine believer but don't haver the faith to repent.



Hey, I get it. I would be embarrassed too for falling for such an obvious fourth century Roman joke.

Oh, good grief, you're still on about the Romans even though I destroyed that argument a long time ago. No wonder you keep repeating yourself, you never learn anything.

 

[hobelim]

A ritual conducted because Lazarus lost his faith in Jesus that brought the Jews out to mourn?

Brought "the Jews" out to mourn? Thanks for sharing that gem. It was friends and family that were mourning the loss of Lazarus, a close friend and brother of Jesus, to Pharisaic ritual cleaning practices described in great detail in the OT, not "the Jews". He died by losing faith in Jesus and returned to the whitewashed tomb in which he was raised. Just like many across the country of every gender race color and creed have lost family friends and loved ones, who died in a very real way, by embracing treasonous brazen anti American thinly veiled Nazi fascism after being prepared, brainwashed by fox news and preachers, for trump to shit in their ears daily defiling and contaminating their minds to the point of uselessness.

To deliberate turn them into subservient blindly obedient vile loathsome and violent orcs.

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[hobelim]

Oh, good grief, you're still on about the Romans even though I destroyed that argument a long time ago.

You actually think you destroyed something?

 

[hadit]

You actually think you destroyed something?View attachment 1270907

Well, it is a dead carcass that you keep waving, and it has my arrow sticking out of it, so yeah.

 

[hobelim]

And you still think the creator can't control the creation. Sad.

I know. Its so sad! I don't believe that God is a capricious and puerile petty tyrant.

Woe is me!

 

[hadit]

Brought "the Jews" out to mourn? Thanks for sharing that gem. It was friends and family that were mourning the loss of Lazarus, a close friend and brother of Jesus, to Pharisaic ritual cleaning practices described in great detail in the OT, not "the Jews". He died by losing faith in Jesus and returned to the whitewashed tomb in which he was raised. Just like many across the country of every gender race color and creed have lost family friends and loved ones, who died in a very real way, by embracing treasonous brazen anti American thinly veiled Nazi fascism after being prepared, brainwashed by fox news and preachers, for trump to shit in their ears daily defiling and contaminating their minds to the point of uselessness.

To deliberate turn them into subservient blindly obedient vile loathsome and violent orcs.

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Again, what's your evidence? Thus far, you've produced nothing. Nothing to prove the mourners were only friends and family, even though it was the custom of the day for mourners to show up at the home of a dead person's family, nothing to prove Lazarus was doing a Pharasaic ritual, nothing.

I don't care how it's laid out in the OT, you have to prove that Lazarus was doing it.

And you won't.

 

[hobelim]

Well, it is a dead carcass that you keep waving, and it has my arrow sticking out of it, so yeah.

You might not realize this being six feet under dreaming about being a mighty defender of the faith, but I have been pissing on your grave while you continue to be eaten by worms.

 

[hadit]

You might not realize this being six feet under but I have been pissing on your grave.

Oh, I realize where the wheels fell off your tricycle, you think you're being relevant. Tell you what, present some evidence for a change. I present the Word while you present unsupported opinions. So, I don't know what you're pissing on, but you'd better make sure it's not going to bite you.

 

[hadit]

I know. Its so sad! I don't believe that God is a capricious and puerile petty tyrant.

Woe is me!

You also think He can't control His own creation.

 

[hadit]

There are two possibilities. Either you and billions of people for thousands of years have been right and I am wrong or you all are wrong and have been wrong and I am right.

We are right and you are wrong.

It is impossible that someone decomposing for four days in a hot desert tomb walked out because Jesus said come out.

Which is why it was such a miracle.

Therefore it is determined by the court that you are hereby dismissed with extreme prejudice.

Again you claim the creator can't control the creation. Just admit it, you think God is less than what He created.

 

[hobelim]

Again you claim the creator can't control the creation

I never said that. Liar. I said I accept the reality that the creator who could have done anything created. You on the other had don't accept reality the way it is and has always been but instead were carried away into la la land by your own unrestrained imagination.

Sweet dreams sucker.

 

[ding]

So there it is. The crowd was struck with blindness (which has nothing to do with vision).

So not a supernatural act. I win again.

 

[ding]

Yeah I know! Who wouldn't love a trinity that became a baby boy who became a human sacrifice and died just for your sins so you can remain oblivious for life and sin with impunity while you get fleeced and shafted by demons for every day of your life rotting in Gehenna.

Tell me more about these supernatural acts in the OT that aren't supernatural acts. This is me paying you back in your own coin.

 

[hobelim]

So not a supernatural act. I win again.

It was a show of Divine power over the minds of men which by definition is supernatural.

Just like trump and his legions of orcs have been struck with blindness. No matter how long they fumble around they will never find the door that will remain locked to them unless they repent.

 

[ding]

IT WAS A DEMONSTRATION OF DIVINE POWER OVER THE MINDS OF MEN which by definition is supernatural.

Nope. Not a supernatural act. And certainly not proof that you believe in supernatural acts.

I win yet again. There are no supernatural acts in the OT. Just Jewish men seeking God.