Zone1 Even if the Gilgul Cycle is true DON'T BET YOUR SOUL on reincarnation?

COULD the Gilgul Cycle be misunderstood by us humans?

  • Yes, we humans tend to take all information in a selfish manner.

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  • No. reincarnation is true, the Dr. Ian Stevenson research is evidence for this.

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  • Maybe...... and the Negative Near death experience accounts are kind of scary I must admit?!

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DennisPTate

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IF IT IS TRUE THAT John the Baptist and the Prophet Elijah are two separate "souls"......
that may well be connected by ONE human spirit........
it would still be an off the scale scary error to BET YOUR SOUL, [you mind, will, emotions and personality]
according to near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai Th. D?

I write this due to the warning by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus that the human "soul"....
whatever that is exactly......
can be destroyed in the Second Death - Gehenna - the Lake of Fire?

Hades and Sheol are the two main words in the Bible for the grave but
"gehenna" is not a word that we should be laughing about.........
neither is the idea of the human "soul" being somehow "destroyed" in the "lake of fire", whatever exactly that lake of fire is?


Former Covering Cherub Helel is the Grand Master of using "True Lies" to convince us humans and our
ancestors all the way back to Adam and Eve.....
to make one foolish.... selfish.... idolatrous... disobedient.... rebellious......
lustful and unwise decisions after another!


.......


[Rick Joyner, The Final Quest] :

The Evil Army


I saw a demonic army so large that it stretched as far as I could see. It was separated into divisions, with each carrying a different banner. The foremost and most powerful divisions were Pride, Self righteousness, Respectability, Selfish Ambition, and Unrighteous Judgment, but the largest of all was Jealousy. The leader of this vast army was the Accuser of the Brethren himself. I knew that there were many more evil divisions beyond my scope of vision, but these were the vanguard of this terrible horde from hell that was now being released against the church.

The weapons carried by this horde had names on them: the swords were named Intimidation; the spears were named Treachery; and their arrows were named Accusations, Gossip, Slander and Faultfinding. Scouts and smaller companies of demons with such names as Rejection, Bitterness, Impatience, Un-forgiveness and Lust were sent in advance of this army to prepare for the main attack. I knew in my heart that the church had never faced anything like this before.

The main assignment of this army was to cause division. It was sent to attack every level of relationship-churches with each other, congregations with their pastors, husbands and wives, children and parents, and even children with each other. The scouts were sent to locate the openings in churches, families or individuals that rejection, bitterness, lust, etc., could exploit and make a larger breech for the divisions that were coming.

The most shocking part of this vision was that this horde was not riding on horses, but on Christians! Most of them were well-dressed, respectable, and had the appearance of being refined and educated. These were Christians who had opened themselves to the powers of darkness to such a degree that the enemy could use them and they would think that they were being used by God. The Accuser knows that a house divided cannot stand, and this army represented his ultimate attempt to bring such complete division to the church that she would completely fall from grace.​


The Prisoners
[Rick Joyner, The Final Quest]



Apparently....
many of the Wealthiest of the Wealthy eight thousand five hundred or so humans.....
know about the Dr. Ian Stevenson research.....
and about the Gilgul Cycle of Judaism.......
but if they have been PROMISED OBLIVION for their mind, will, emotions and personality.......
and then reincarnation into the body of a grandson or granddaughter.......
that promise could be terribly misleading.

I believe that we are at the beginning of a massive spiritual awakening among the eight thousand five hundred or so mega-wealthy individuals.... as well as among their one million to twenty million most highly reward C.E.O's, Hollywood actors, elected officials, government bureaucrats, judges, Drug Lords, Rock Stars..... and the list goes on and on and on and on and on!


For the record I am of the belief that Dr. Ian Stevenson did valid and extremely important psychological research that can transform the way that we view our lives and our place in the universe or multiverse.


[Dr. Ian Stevenson] :

. About Dr. Ian Stevenson​

Dr. Ian Stevenson (1918-2007) was a psychiatrist who worked for the University of Virginia School of Medicine for 50 years. He was Chair of the Department of Psychiatry from 1957 to 1967, the Carlson Professor of Psychiatry from 1967 to 2001, and a Research Professor of Psychiatry from 2002 until his death. He was also the founder and Director of the University of Virginia’s Division of Perceptual Studies investigating parapsychological phenomena such as (1) reincarnation, (2) near-death experiences, (3) out-of-body experiences, and (4) altered states of consciousness and psi. He became internationally recognized for his research into reincarnation by discovering evidence suggesting that memories and physical injuries can be transferred from one lifetime to another. He traveled extensively over a period of 40 years, investigating 3,000 cases of children around the world who recalled having past lives. His meticulous research presented evidence that such children had unusual abilities, illnesses, phobias and philias which could not be explained by the environment or heredity.




Now I feel that I should leave you with one of the most shocking quotations that I have ever found on this subject. Near death experiencer Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D. reports hearing Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus teach his disciples in a different flavour than the KJV translation leaves us tasting, hearing, smelling or understanding from the Christian Bible text on this topic?




[Near death experiencer Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D.] :

"You do not understand this life, he said on a later occasion, so you do not understand what you can achieve. You think that you were born and die and have only the time in between to live. The Sadducees do not even believe in the resurrection. And the Pharisees and Essenes believe you are saved or damned on the basis of what you do here in this life.

So you judge and condemn others and forsake love in order to enter heaven. Yet I tell you that the Father has many heavens and many homes for you. This is not your only life, and these are not the only things you have to learn. You will have lives in other times and places.

Do not judge the gentiles? You may have been a Gentile. Do not judge the prostitute You may have been a prostitute. Do not judge the Roman or Greek? You may have been those.

"The Father wishes you to know the life of the world in all its conditions so that you may be able to love those in all conditions. He wishes you to learn poverty and wealth, weakness and strength, sickness and health so that, in all these, you may seek Him and find Him.

Is He the Father only of the righteous? No, he is Father of all and Mother of all. All may come to God and find the love appropriate to their condition. Are you poor? Learn to love your fellows. Are you rich? Learn to give of your surplus to those who have nothing. Are you in a place of power? Learn to use your power for the good of others. Learn the love appropriate to the condition you are in and all conditions will become blessed.

"So, do not fear what people can do to your body, because you will have many more of those. Rather, avoid those who can kill the soul within you, those who would destroy love and the light of your soul. I tell you, you will have much more to learn then, and at the end of the Age, those who have not learned love will enter the Long Sleep, while those who have learned love, will inherit the New Earth which the Father prepares for them."

"In each life, you are affected by what happened in other lives, but you in turn can affect those lives. The Father has not put you in a prison, that you can change nothing. Rather, you can do anything when your inner eyes are opened and you see the Kingdom within."

"Now, even you who follow me see dimly as through a fog. So do not, in that condition, set up laws for others to follow. Rather, teach others to grow in spirit so that their eyes may be opened to the peace and love of the Father."

The Father wishes good for you, not evil. If then, you bring your fears and errors before the Father in meditation, He will help you to understand and be free. The Father does not condemn: you condemn yourself."

"If you judge, you will be judged. If you condemn, you are already condemned. If you do not love, how will you know love? If you are cruel, cruelty will come to you. What you are within yourself ----- that you will draw to yourself." (Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D., The Thomas Book, Near Death, A Quest and a New Gospel by the Twin Brother of Jesus.
page 117,118 )

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NOW I FEEL THAT I MUST PERSONALLY ADMIT THAT THIS ENTIRE TOPIC IS FAR ABOVE MY OWN SECURITY CLEARANCE LEVEL WITH MESSIAH YESHUA - JESUS WHO I UNDERSTAND AS THE BEING OF LIGHT OF NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE ACCOUNTS, [at least in the majority or at minimum a high percentage of NDE accounts]?
 
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