keys to the kingdom

[hobelim]

I don't care how it's laid out in the OT, you have to prove that Lazarus was doing it.

And you won't.

There are two possibilities. Either you and billions of people for thousands of years have been right and I am wrong or you and billions of people have been wrong and I am right.

It's impossible that a man decomposing for 4 days in a hot desert tomb walked out because Jesus said to. Therefore it has been determined by the court that I'm right and you are wrong so your false charges have been hereby dismissed with extreme prejudice.

You are sentenced to ten eons in hell as poppet for the devil. If after that time you show remorse for your false witness, slander, and murders your release might be considered.

 

[ding]

Sure, as soon as you tell me if you get a boner when you are on your knees before a naked Jesus dying on a cross.

There's that respect of other's faith that we have come to identify you by.

The OT was men seeking God. The NT is God seeking men.

 

[hadit]

I never said that. Liar. I said I accept the reality that the creator who could have done anything created. You on the other had don't accept reality the way it is and has always been but instead were carried away into la la land by your own unrestrained imagination.

Sweet dreams sucker.

Yet you contend that it is impossible for Jesus to have controlled nature, healed diseases, given sight to the blind, hearing to the deaf, and raised the dead to life. You not only say He didn't do it, you say it was impossible for Him to do it.

Therefore, logic demands that you believe the Creator, Jesus, can't control the creation, the universe and all its laws. You like to proclaim logic, yield to it. I will continue saying it until you prove otherwise.

 

[hadit]

So not a supernatural act. I win again.

Even when he claims to be citing a supernatural act, he goes to great lengths to maintain it was not.

 

[hobelim]

Even when he claims to be citing a supernatural act, he goes to great lengths to maintain it was not.

lol. Such is existence without the light of life in hell.

 

[hobelim]

Yet you contend that it is impossible for Jesus to have controlled nature, healed diseases, given sight to the blind, hearing to the deaf, and raised the dead to life. You not only say He didn't do it, you say it was impossible for Him to do it.

Are scurrilous lies, denial, and derision all that you have? Never mind, I already know.

I said it's impossible for those miracles, signs that Jesus was the Jewish messiah, a man, to be literally true. The miracles of the deaf hearing, the blind given sight, and the dead being raised to eternal life happens every day all over the world thanks to good people.

All those "miracles" are universal metaphors. ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.


Am I telling you something so astonishing that you didn't already know...believer? lol. Pft.

 

[ding]

lol. Such is existence without the light of life in hell.

Such is the life of a militant atheist playing games.

 

[ding]

Awesome! If you like that I have an arsenal lying in wait just for people like you.

I bet you do. You are a militant atheist after all.

 

[ding]

Even when he claims to be citing a supernatural act, he goes to great lengths to maintain it was not.

His sophistry is off the chart. This is one disturbed person.

 

[hadit]

Are scurrilous lies, denial, and derision all that you have? Never mind, I already know.

I said it's impossible for those miracles, signs that Jesus was the Jewish messiah, a man, to be literally true.

That's what I said. You believe the creator, Jesus, can't control the creation, this world. You believe He is not greater than disease, nature and death. That's what you're saying by insisting it's impossible for Him to do those things. That's why He did them, to demonstrate who He was. You know (or you should know) that prophets gave signs to prove they were speaking for God, because to do otherwise would put them in the same category as you, totally unbelievable.

The miracles of the deaf hearing, the blind given sight, and the dead being raised to eternal life happens every day all over the world thanks to good people.

All those "miracles" are universal metaphors. ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

I know your mind is simple, you don't have to advertise it. The bottom line remains, you claim it is so simply because you say it is so. You have no evidence, and you yourself said there are two possibilities, millions of people throughout history who have studied the Scriptures, lived in God's presence and know Him well are wrong and you're right or millions of people throughout history who have studied the Scriptures, lived in God's presence and know Him well are right and you're wrong. Obviously, you're wrong.

Am I telling you something so astonishing that you didn't already know...believer? lol. Pft.

You're telling me nonsense is what you're telling me.

 

[ding]

Are scurrilous lies, denial, and derision all that you have? Never mind, I already know.

I said it's impossible for those miracles, signs that Jesus was the Jewish messiah, a man, to be literally true. The miracles of the deaf hearing, the blind given sight, and the dead being raised to eternal life happens every day all over the world thanks to good people.

All those "miracles" are universal metaphors. ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.


Am I telling you something so astonishing that you didn't already know...believer? lol. Pft.

Nope. The NT is the historical record of God seeking man.

 

[BreezeWood]

How so? At this point you have neither confirmed or denied it.

certain occurrences from those times appear to have characteristics of a metaphysical origin mostly not biblically understood by any of the desert bibles.

 

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certain occurrences from those times appear to have characteristics of a metaphysical origin mostly not biblically understood by any of the desert bibles.

Or were embellishments of historical event to teach lessons. No metaphysical origins necessary. You should be happy.

 

[hadit]

Jesus was not and is not the creator. That is just incomprehensibly absurd and ridiculous.

Finally, you admit what you really believe. That's absurd, BTW, as Scripture makes it abundantly clear that He was indeed the creator, and all things were made by Him and through Him. I mean, unless like you, one is determined to ignore what Scripture actually says and replace it by what he wants it to say.

But right. Jesus was just a Jewish man who did not control the weather. WTF! He told the raging sea and the approaching storm clouds to "be calm". That's just as miraculous as if a long haired hippie libtard told the January 6th rioting constitutional traitors to "be calm" and they listened, as they acted like animals, assaulting cops, breaking windows and doors, only to shit on a desk, while storming the capitol trying to lynch Pence.

You are stating truth, finally. Absolutely it was miraculous and was why He had thousands following Him everywhere He went. It was one of the reasons why his disciples did not fear death from the hands of the Romans who were determined to snuff out the upstart Jewish sect and killed them wholesale. You know, the same Romans that you claim invented Christianity.

Capisce? ¿Entiendes? אידיוט מזוין

Oh, I quite understand. I fear, however, that you, even though you finally spoke truth, do not and did not even understand the truth you spoke.

In order to maintain Jesus is not God, you have to ignore Scripture, which is what you do.

 

[ding]

Jesus was not and is not the creator.

Incorrect. Jesus is God. The OT is men seeking God. It's chock full of embellishments that show God on their side. Nothing supernatural at all. Just Jewish men crafting narratives of historical events that made God look bad. The NT is God seeking man and setting Jewish record straight.

 

[ding]

Jesus was just a Jewish man

That's not how the Gospels portray it. The gospels portray the divinity of Christ as historical.

Maybe Jews see Jesus as just a man, but they rejected him because they didn't like being corrected which Jesus knew they would do even before they did it.

 

[ding]

Jesus was not and is not the creator. That is just incomprehensibly absurd and ridiculous.

But right.

Jesus was just a Jewish man who did not control the weather. WTF! He told the raging sea and the approaching storm clouds to "be calm". That's just as miraculous as if a long haired hippie type libtard told the January 6th rioting constitutional traitors to "be calm" and they listened, as they acted like animals, assaulting cops, smashing windows and doors, only to shit on a desk, while storming the Capitol building trying to lynch Pence.

Capisce? ¿Entiendes? אידיוט מזוין

The Jews were chosen to reject Jesus.

 

[ding]

That's just as miraculous as if a long haired hippie type libtard told the January 6th rioting constitutional traitors to "be calm" and they listened, as they acted like animals, assaulting cops, smashing windows and doors, only to shit on a desk, while storming the Capitol building trying to lynch Pence.

Is genociding Palestinians worse?

 

[ding]

Either you and billions of people for thousands of years have been right and I am wrong

Yes. That's it exactly.

or you and billions of people have been wrong and I am right.

Nope. The evidence shows Jesus is God.

It's impossible that a man decomposing for 4 days in a hot desert tomb walked out because Jesus said to.

With God anything is possible, right? Ergo, Jesus is God.

Therefore it has been determined by the court that I'm right and you are wrong so your false charges have been hereby dismissed with extreme prejudice.

Nope. The Jews were chosen to reject Jesus which is exactly what history shows.

You are sentenced to ten eons in hell as poppet for the devil. If after that time you show remorse for your false witness, slander, and murders your release might be considered.

You must be thinking that about yourself but God is merciful and will take pity on your dark soul.

 

[hadit]

The Jews were chosen to reject Jesus.

Which makes his assertion that Lazarus' mourners were mourning his loss of faith in Jesus and doing a Pharisee ritual.