James Hansen Wishes he Wasn’t So Right about Global Warming

Man contributes to the situation of the
planet and atmosphere----to a small extent. I am not sure if the contribution is as serious as Ralph Nader thought it is
I don't think I've ever read a single word from Nader on global warming. What is your opinion on the conclusions of the IPCC?
 
I don't think I've ever read a single word from Nader on global warming. What is your opinion on the conclusions of the IPCC?
I didn't specify global warming. The
calculations are way beyond me and
I am always leery of PROJECTIONS INTO
THE FUTURE. The AIDS virus was
covered about 1981. Projections
at that time were that the entire
population of New York City would be
dead in the gutter by the year 2000.
As a kid we got told "look forward to
4 inches of space for each person----
and SOYLENT GREEN---I even
'ON THE BEACH"
 
I didn't specify global warming.
When you commented that CO2 was the basis of life and that many "schmucks" on this board don't understand organic chemistry, I assumed you were being critical of attempts to reduce or even eliminat human CO2 emissions. Were you?
The calculations are way beyond me
Which calculations?
and I am always leery of PROJECTIONS INTO THE FUTURE.
If I give you a short list of reactants and tell you I'm going to mix them in a beaker at STP, do you not think you could project into the future and tell me what chemical reactions will take place and what the products will be?
The AIDS virus was covered about 1981.
Covered? I don't know what you're saying here.
Projections at that time were that the entire population of New York City would be dead in the gutter by the year 2000.
Was the entire population of New York City exchanging bodily fluids? Who made such a projection?
As a kid we got told "look forward to
4 inches of space for each person----
and SOYLENT GREEN---
Human population is still growing. We could get there.
I even --- 'ON THE BEACH"
You left out a verb. You read it? You watched it?

I was hoping that someone with at the very least a good education in chemistry could provide us all some good foundational info about the greenhouse effect. Posters here believe a wide range of things about CO2 and infrared. Some people accept the standard theory, others believe it is vastly overstated believing that even 420 ppm is just too little material to have warmed the entire planet. Others believe the positive feedbacks from water vapor are grossly overstated. Do you have an opinion about the greenhouse effect and how much of a threat is actually posed by manmade global warming? If not, can you explain to us what you meant by your comments about CO2 being the basis of life and schmucks ignorant of organic chemistry?
 
When you commented that CO2 was the basis of life and that many "schmucks" on this board don't understand organic chemistry, I assumed you were being critical of attempts to reduce or even eliminat human CO2 emissions. Were you?

Which calculations?

If I give you a short list of reactants and tell you I'm going to mix them in a beaker at STP, do you not think you could project into the future and tell me what chemical reactions will take place and what the products will be?

Covered? I don't know what you're saying here.

Was the entire population of New York City exchanging bodily fluids? Who made such a projection?

Human population is still growing. We could get there.

You left out a verb. You read it? You watched it?

I was hoping that someone with at the very least a good education in chemistry could provide us all some good foundational info about the greenhouse effect. Posters here believe a wide range of things about CO2 and infrared. Some people accept the standard theory, others believe it is vastly overstated believing that even 420 ppm is just too little material to have warmed the entire planet. Others believe the positive feedbacks from water vapor are grossly overstated. Do you have an opinion about the greenhouse effect and how much of a threat is actually posed by manmade global warming? If not, can you explain to us what you meant by your comments about CO2 being the basis of life and schmucks ignorant of organic chemistry?
no I have no opinion----someone played with my preceding post
 
I was hoping that someone with at the very least a good education in chemistry could provide us all some good foundational info about the greenhouse effect.
Why? It's not a chemical process.
 
You don't need a chemist. You need a physicist.
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You don't need a chemist. You need a physicist.
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Actually you just need the actual data...




"satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling"


Atmospheric Co2 went up, atmospheric temps did not...

THEORY REJECTED
 
Actually you just need the actual data...




"satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling"


Atmospheric Co2 went up, atmospheric temps did not...

THEORY REJECTED
It's not theory. It's reality. It's just physics. You make people who disagree with AGW look bad.
 
It's not theory. It's reality. It's just physics. You make people who disagree with AGW look bad.


What is REALITY here is that Co2 increased and atmospheric temperature did not.

Your THEORY is WRONG.

You cannot answer basic climate questions.

You are a FRAUD funded by the Co2 FRAUD to keep the FRAUD going...
 
What is REALITY here is that Co2 increased and atmospheric temperature did not.

Your THEORY is WRONG.

You cannot answer basic climate questions.

You are a FRAUD funded by the Co2 FRAUD to keep the FRAUD going...
You make people who disagree with AGW look bad.
 

Exxon scientists predicted global warming with 'shocking skill ...

Harvard Gazette

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Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago

Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago

Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago
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Exxon Scientists Predicted Global Warming, Even as ...

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Jan 12, 2023 — Global warming projections made or recorded by ExxonMobil scientists between 1977 and 2003 closely tracked with observed temperature increases.


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May 2, 2024 — David, the head of Exxon Research, told a global warming conference financed by Exxon in October 1982 that “few people doubt that the world ...


Assessing ExxonMobil's global warming projections


Science | AAAS
https://www.science.org › doi › science.abk0063


by G Supran · 2023 · Cited by 152 — Accurate and skillful climate modeling. Overall, ExxonMobil's global warming projections closely track subsequent observed temperature increases ...


Exxon climate predictions were accurate decades ago. Still ...

NPR
https://www.npr.org › 2023/01/12 › exxon-climate-pre...


Jan 12, 2023 — Exxon's climate research decades back painted an accurate picture of global warming, according to a new scientific paper.


Revealed: Exxon made 'breathtakingly' accurate climate ...

The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › business › jan › exxon-...


Jan 12, 2023 — The oil giant Exxon privately “predicted global warming correctly and skilfully” only to then spend decades publicly rubbishing such science ...

Exxon's Own Models Predicted Global Warming


Scientific American
https://www.scientificamerican.com › article › exxons-o...


Jan 13, 2023 — Exxon's Own Models Predicted Global Warming—It Ignored Them. Scientists working for the oil giant Exxon in the 1970s and 1980s estimated ...

Exxon predicted global warming with remarkable accuracy


CNBC
https://www.cnbc.com › 2023/01/12 › exxon-predicted...


Jan 12, 2023 — "We now have airtight, unimpeachable evidence that ExxonMobil accurately predicted global warming years before it turned around and publicly ...


Exxon scientists knew almost exactly how bad climate ...

Fortune
https://fortune.com › 2023/01/12 › exxon-scientists-clim...


Jan 12, 2023 — It “gives us airtight evidence that Exxon Mobil accurately predicted global warming years before, then turned around and attacked the science ...


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Exxon scientists predicted global warming with 'shocking skill ...

Harvard Gazette

https://news.harvard.edu › gazette › story › 2023/01
Jan 12, 2023 — Research shows that company modeled and predicted global warming with 'shocking skill and accuracy' starting in the 1970s. Projections created ...





Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago

Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago

Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago
Scientific American
https://www.scientificamerican.com › article › exxon-k...
Oct 26, 2015 — A new investigation shows the oil company understood the science before it became a public issue and spent millions to promote ...


Exxon Scientists Predicted Global Warming, Even as ...

The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › 2023/01/12 › climate › exx...

Jan 12, 2023 — Global warming projections made or recorded by ExxonMobil scientists between 1977 and 2003 closely tracked with observed temperature increases.


Exxon's Own Research Confirmed Fossil Fuels' Role in ...

Inside Climate News
https://insideclimatenews.org › News

May 2, 2024 — David, the head of Exxon Research, told a global warming conference financed by Exxon in October 1982 that “few people doubt that the world ...


Assessing ExxonMobil's global warming projections

Science | AAAS
https://www.science.org › doi › science.abk0063

by G Supran · 2023 · Cited by 152 — Accurate and skillful climate modeling. Overall, ExxonMobil's global warming projections closely track subsequent observed temperature increases ...


Exxon climate predictions were accurate decades ago. Still ...

NPR
https://www.npr.org › 2023/01/12 › exxon-climate-pre...

Jan 12, 2023 — Exxon's climate research decades back painted an accurate picture of global warming, according to a new scientific paper.


Revealed: Exxon made 'breathtakingly' accurate climate ...

The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › business › jan › exxon-...

Jan 12, 2023 — The oil giant Exxon privately “predicted global warming correctly and skilfully” only to then spend decades publicly rubbishing such science ...

Exxon's Own Models Predicted Global Warming

Scientific American
https://www.scientificamerican.com › article › exxons-o...

Jan 13, 2023 — Exxon's Own Models Predicted Global Warming—It Ignored Them. Scientists working for the oil giant Exxon in the 1970s and 1980s estimated ...

Exxon predicted global warming with remarkable accuracy

CNBC
https://www.cnbc.com › 2023/01/12 › exxon-predicted...

Jan 12, 2023 — "We now have airtight, unimpeachable evidence that ExxonMobil accurately predicted global warming years before it turned around and publicly ...


Exxon scientists knew almost exactly how bad climate ...

Fortune
https://fortune.com › 2023/01/12 › exxon-scientists-clim...

Jan 12, 2023 — It “gives us airtight evidence that Exxon Mobil accurately predicted global warming years before, then turned around and attacked the science ...


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1C per doubling of CO2. That’s it.
 

Exxon scientists predicted global warming with 'shocking skill ...

Harvard Gazette

https://news.harvard.edu › gazette › story › 2023/01
Jan 12, 2023 — Research shows that company modeled and predicted global warming with 'shocking skill and accuracy' starting in the 1970s. Projections created ...





Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago

Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago

Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago
Scientific American
https://www.scientificamerican.com › article › exxon-k...
Oct 26, 2015 — A new investigation shows the oil company understood the science before it became a public issue and spent millions to promote ...


Exxon Scientists Predicted Global Warming, Even as ...

The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › 2023/01/12 › climate › exx...

Jan 12, 2023 — Global warming projections made or recorded by ExxonMobil scientists between 1977 and 2003 closely tracked with observed temperature increases.


Exxon's Own Research Confirmed Fossil Fuels' Role in ...

Inside Climate News
https://insideclimatenews.org › News

May 2, 2024 — David, the head of Exxon Research, told a global warming conference financed by Exxon in October 1982 that “few people doubt that the world ...


Assessing ExxonMobil's global warming projections

Science | AAAS
https://www.science.org › doi › science.abk0063

by G Supran · 2023 · Cited by 152 — Accurate and skillful climate modeling. Overall, ExxonMobil's global warming projections closely track subsequent observed temperature increases ...


Exxon climate predictions were accurate decades ago. Still ...

NPR
https://www.npr.org › 2023/01/12 › exxon-climate-pre...

Jan 12, 2023 — Exxon's climate research decades back painted an accurate picture of global warming, according to a new scientific paper.


Revealed: Exxon made 'breathtakingly' accurate climate ...

The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › business › jan › exxon-...

Jan 12, 2023 — The oil giant Exxon privately “predicted global warming correctly and skilfully” only to then spend decades publicly rubbishing such science ...

Exxon's Own Models Predicted Global Warming

Scientific American
https://www.scientificamerican.com › article › exxons-o...

Jan 13, 2023 — Exxon's Own Models Predicted Global Warming—It Ignored Them. Scientists working for the oil giant Exxon in the 1970s and 1980s estimated ...

Exxon predicted global warming with remarkable accuracy

CNBC
https://www.cnbc.com › 2023/01/12 › exxon-predicted...

Jan 12, 2023 — "We now have airtight, unimpeachable evidence that ExxonMobil accurately predicted global warming years before it turned around and publicly ...


Exxon scientists knew almost exactly how bad climate ...

Fortune
https://fortune.com › 2023/01/12 › exxon-scientists-clim...

Jan 12, 2023 — It “gives us airtight evidence that Exxon Mobil accurately predicted global warming years before, then turned around and attacked the science ...


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The ldiot westwall wall "disagrees" with his 10 link certified Fact.
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1C per doubling of CO2. That’s it.


Nothing from doubling Co2 = the highly correlated satellite and balloon data


Only a taxpayer funded Co2 FRAUD "faux skeptic" pushes the FUDGE as real....
 
Why don't you explain why solar is now the cheapest source of electricity in the world?

They're only using the sales price for the energy they're
not counting in the construction and purchase or the refitting costs at end of equipment life which oftentimes cancels the ROI.
 
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