James Hansen Wishes he Wasn’t So Right about Global Warming

[ding]

Whether the Earth's temperature goes up, down, or stays the same depends EXPLICITLY on the energy flux balance at the ToA. No matter WHAT the cause might be, to change the Earth's temperature REQUIRES a change in the sum of energy flows at the system bounday - the ToA. I've been trying to tell you that for a couple weeks now but you're either too stupid to understand or too dishonest to admit that it shoots your idea down the fucking tubes.

Which is driven by northern hemisphere glaciation or deglaciation.

When the NH glaciates the ocean and the atmosphere cool.

When the NH deglaciates the ocean and the atmosphere warm.

 

[EMH]

Why do you continue to lie about actual temperature data?

That's actually hurricane data, a proxy for ocean temperature.

And here it is. Record decade for canes still the 1940s, second place the 1890s. Not a lot of "evidence" of "ocean warming" there...

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

And hence, on ocean temps, who is lying??

Your Co2 FRAUD says oceans are warming. If so, there would be a breakout in canes. But there is NOT one.... not even CLOSE....

 

[EMH]

Playing with fudge charts is what the Co2 FRAUD loves to do.

 

[EMH]

Do you dispute the ocean can and has caused glacial and interglacial type swings in temperature?

You have ZERO real evidence of that.

You cannot even answer the basic climate questions of today...

1. Why does one earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?

 

[EMH]

Warming?

Maybe

You and the Faux crowd should just STFU and stay out of this issue.

The only real warming they have ever had actual data documenting is called Urban Heat Island Effect, when cities grow they warm, that's it.

 

[EMH]

And what is that supposed to mean?

It means the given excuse used by the Co2 FRAUD to FUDGE the satellite data showing NO WARMING in the atmosphere despite rising Co2 is, as always, COMPLETE BULLSHIT.

 

[EMH]

Satellite and balloon data that underwent faulty analyses.

For MORE THAN THREE DECADES of increasing atmospheric Co2, the highly correlated satellite and balloon data showed precisely NO WARMING in the atmosphere. The Co2 FRAUD did not like that TRUTH, so it FUDGED the data with BULLSHIT excuses that do not even explain the fudge they did....

There is NO ACTUAL DATA showing ANY WARMING in the ACTUAL ATMOSPHERE, just FUDGE.

 

[ding]

You have ZERO real evidence of that.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aaf5529?adobe_mc=MCMID=24445298415631476812898182430771639861|MCORGID=242B6472541199F70A4C98A6%40AdobeOrg|TS=1723213472

Sudden climate changes in the recent geological record

https://www.science.org/content/article/crippled-atlantic-currents-triggered-ice-age-climate-change

Collapse and rapid resumption of Atlantic meridional circulation linked to deglacial climate changes - Nature

Destabilisation of the Subpolar North Atlantic prior to the Little Ice Age - Nature Communications

Snapshots of mean ocean temperature over the last 700 000 years using noble gases in the EPICA Dome C ice core

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0031018285800201

Deep Atlantic Circulation During the Last Glacial Maximum and Deglaciation​

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1029/PA005i004p00469

Collapse and rapid resumption of Atlantic meridional circulation linked to deglacial climate changes - Nature​

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2010PA0020

 

[EMH]

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aaf5529?adobe_mc=MCMID=24445298415631476812898182430771639861|MCORGID=242B6472541199F70A4C98A6%40AdobeOrg|TS=1723213472

Sudden climate changes in the recent geological record

https://www.science.org/content/article/crippled-atlantic-currents-triggered-ice-age-climate-change

Collapse and rapid resumption of Atlantic meridional circulation linked to deglacial climate changes - Nature

Destabilisation of the Subpolar North Atlantic prior to the Little Ice Age - Nature Communications

Snapshots of mean ocean temperature over the last 700 000 years using noble gases in the EPICA Dome C ice core

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0031018285800201

Deep Atlantic Circulation During the Last Glacial Maximum and Deglaciation​

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1029/PA005i004p00469

Collapse and rapid resumption of Atlantic meridional circulation linked to deglacial climate changes - Nature​

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2010PA0020

Everyone look closely at this. This is where your taxdollars go, to "studying" bullshit that has no evidence at all to support it, is based on a series of lies and false assumptions, has no idea how to properly define "ice age," and is all hyped up for media sound bytes...

This idiot thinks the EARTH climate changes based on ocean currents. Fill your bathtub. Dump a cup of cold water, and push it one way. Then the next night do the same and push the cold water the other way. Each time, come back and the tub is actually THE SAME TEMPERATURE - no bathtub climate change by pushing water one way or the other. WE DO NOT NEED TO FUND THIS.

 

[ding]

Everyone look closely at this. This is where your taxdollars go, to "studying" bullshit that has no evidence at all to support it, is based on a series of lies and false assumptions, has no idea how to properly define "ice age," and is all hyped up for media sound bytes...

This idiot thinks the EARTH climate changes based on ocean currents. Fill your bathtub. Dump a cup of cold water, and push it one way. Then the next night do the same and push the cold water the other way. Each time, come back and the tub is actually THE SAME TEMPERATURE - no bathtub climate change by pushing water one way or the other. WE DO NOT NEED TO FUND THIS.

You are so dumb that you don't realize I'm arguing against AGW.

Which means you must be arguing for CO2 FRAUD!!!!

 

[EMH]

You are so dumb that you don't realize I'm arguing against AGW

... lol!!! by accepting FUDGED DATA as accurate.... not exactly convincing....

You would be more credible if you answered the questions. YOU are a TAXPAYER FUNDED part of the Co2 FRAUD, a dumbshit "skeptic" who accepts FUDGED DATA and skewers the debate away from...

THE QUESTIONS YOU WON'T ANSWER THAT PROVE Co2 DOES NOTHING

 

[ding]

... lol!!! by accepting FUDGED DATA as accurate.... not exactly convincing....

You would be more credible if you answered the questions. YOU are a TAXPAYER FUNDED part of the Co2 FRAUD, a dumbshit "skeptic" who accepts FUDGED DATA and skewers the debate away from...

THE QUESTIONS YOU WON'T ANSWER THAT PROVE Co2 DOES NOTHING

You are still doing it. CO2 FRAUD!!!!

You’re so dumb, you thought a mouse pad was where Mickey Mouse lives.

 

[EMH]

You are still doing it. CO2 FRAUD!!!!

You’re so dumb, you thought a mouse pad was where Mickey Mouse lives.

What is the evidence that increasing atmospheric Co2 causes warming in the atmosphere?

satellite and balloon data completely refuted it. Why do you accept it if you aren't part of the Co2 FRAUD?

 

[ding]

What is the evidence that increasing atmospheric Co2 causes warming in the atmosphere?

satellite and balloon data completely refuted it. Why do you accept it if you aren't part of the Co2 FRAUD?

You’re so dumb, you thought a bass guitar was a fish with strings.

 

[EMH]

It is perfectly clear to anyone observing this "debate" that Ding, Reiny, Crock, and Toddster are all employed by the Co2 FRAUD.

As with JFK, those behind the fraud (Zionist Fascists) spread many phony "theories" to keep idiots guessing and confused. Who did JFK?

The mob, the KKK, the Russians, the Cubans, organized labor,

no...

just notice what LBJ actually did, and the truth of the USS Liberty, and it all flows together.



What does "ding" do?

He spreads topics about ocean currents, as if anyone with an IQ over 5 would fall for that....

But all of these so called "skeptics" do one thing = THEY ALL ACCEPT FUDGED DATA AS REAL

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It is perfectly clear to anyone observing this "debate" that Ding, Reiny, Crock, and Toddster are all employed by the Co2 FRAUD.

As with JFK, those behind the fraud (Zionist Fascists) spread many phony "theories" to keep idiots guessing and confused. Who did JFK?

The mob, the KKK, the Russians, the Cubans, organized labor,

no...

just notice what LBJ actually did, and the truth of the USS Liberty, and it all flows together.



What does "ding" do?

He spreads topics about ocean currents, as if anyone with an IQ over 5 would fall for that....

But all of these so called "skeptics" do one thing = THEY ALL ACCEPT FUDGED DATA AS REAL

Are you going to post your evidence that decreasing surface air pressure proves
one or more of your schizoid claims?

 

[EMH]

Are you going to post your evidence that decreasing surface air pressure proves
one or more of your schizoid claims?

Disprove it.

The dominant factor in long term changes to Earth Surface Air Pressure is the amount of ice on the planet.

When ice melts, atmospheric gasses increase, causing SAP to do the same.

Your side claims there is an ongoing net ice melt. SAP disproves that completely.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Disprove it.

The dominant factor in long term changes to Earth Surface Air Pressure is the amount of ice on the planet.

When ice melts, atmospheric gasses increase, causing SAP to do the same.

Your side claims there is an ongoing net ice melt. SAP disproves that completely.

When ice melts, atmospheric gasses increase, causing SAP to do the same.

How much do atmospheric gases increase when ice melts?

Use the real numbers.

 

[EMH]

When ice melts, atmospheric gasses increase, causing SAP to do the same.

How much do atmospheric gases increase when ice melts?

Use the real numbers.

Let's start with what an ice age glacier is. We have something called an ice core....

Every year, an ice age glacier adds another layer on top.
This...

The 'snow to ice ratio' or Snow Ratio expresses how much volume of snow you get for a given volume of water. Typically a ratio of 10:1 (ten to one) means that every 10 inches of snowfall equals one inch of liquid water.


So every layer of an ice age glacier is 1 volume unit of H2O and 9 units of air initially. That gets compressed...

The oldest continuous ice core records extend to 130,000 years in Greenland, and 800,000 years in Antarctica.

LOL!!!

So when ice melts, gas trapped in the ice is released back into the atmosphere, adding to total gas in the atmosphere, which should INCREASE surface air pressure. But SAP is dropping, pointing to the real truth


NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Let's start with what an ice age glacier is. We have something called an ice core....

Every year, an ice age glacier adds another layer on top.
This...

The 'snow to ice ratio' or Snow Ratio expresses how much volume of snow you get for a given volume of water. Typically a ratio of 10:1 (ten to one) means that every 10 inches of snowfall equals one inch of liquid water.


So every layer of an ice age glacier is 1 volume unit of H2O and 9 units of air initially. That gets compressed...

The oldest continuous ice core records extend to 130,000 years in Greenland, and 800,000 years in Antarctica.

LOL!!!

So when ice melts, gas trapped in the ice is released back into the atmosphere, adding to total gas in the atmosphere, which should INCREASE surface air pressure. But SAP is dropping, pointing to the real truth


NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT

So every layer of an ice age glacier is 1 volume unit of H2O and 9 units of air initially. That gets compressed...

Post some real research that shows how much air is actually in the ice at 20 feet, 50 feet, 100 feet, etc.

Because you're a moron.