James Hansen Wishes he Wasn’t So Right about Global Warming

[abu afak]

@abu afak make some predictions. Tell me how CATASTROPHIC things are going to get and when that will happen.

I've already made some, and MY opinion, Not you and the deniers, is being affirmed.
It's getting warmer .. and warmer faster as CO2 rises and "we are in the oven waiting to cook through."
With Both TCR AND ECS of the last 100, 50, 10 years, not only kicking in, but growing with CO2 PPM increases every year.

Hard to predict exact years (a suckers ploy) as there is no precedent for our 100-200x faster PPM increase than natural causes, but it's worrisome for the educated. Alarming to Hansen who's issued new accelerated predictions.

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EDIT.
Note Frustrated/Lost Ding's FOUR consecutive posts below!!
I oft leave them baying at the moon.
Then my other Stalker (no-info-)TrollsterParrot repeats the fallacious demands for exact year predictions.
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I wish James Hansen would stop ignoring the fact that the ocean and not the atmosphere stores heat.

 

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I've already made some, and MY opinion, Not you and the deniers, is being affirmed.
It's getting warmer .. and warmer faster as CO2 rises and "we are in the oven waiting to cook through."
With Both TCR AND ECS of the last 100, 50, 10 years, not only kicking in, but growing with CO2 PPM increases every year.

Hard to predict exact years (a suckers ploy) as there is no precedent for our 100-200x faster PPM increase than natural causes, but it's worrisome for the educated. Alarming to Hansen who's issued new accelerated predictions.

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Give me the top two catastrophes and when they will occur.

 

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I wish James Hansen knew about the role thermohaline circulation plays in the planet's climate.

 

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we are in the oven waiting to cook through.

That sounds really emotional. How hot will it get and when? What is the worst thing that will happen and when will it happen?

Aren't these fair questions?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

there is no precedent for our 100-200x faster PPM increase than natural causes,

Wow!
Now how much faster is the warming?
Show your math.

 

[gtopa1]

Alarmists just want MONEY!!!

Forbes’ False Alarm: NASA Claims on Worsening Weather Debunked by Data

All in all, the Forbes piece is pretty vague and innocuous outside of the false confidence projected of increasing severe weather based on some claims made by NASA that the author cites as authorit…

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[abu afak]

Alarmists just want MONEY!!!

Forbes’ False Alarm: NASA Claims on Worsening Weather Debunked by Data

All in all, the Forbes piece is pretty vague and innocuous outside of the false confidence projected of increasing severe weather based on some claims made by NASA that the author cites as authorit…

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You posted a WTFUWT article from an Oil-Funded Heartland Institute writer that's Fallacious.
She posts odd stats (days over 95) and another, but NOT Average temp!
We are talking about Increasing temp.
Conservative Forbes had it right.
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You posted a WTFUWT article from an Oil-Funded Heartland Institute writer that's Fallacious.
She posts odd stats (days over 95) and another, but NOT Average temp!
We are talking about Increasing temp.
Conservative Forbes had it right.
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I wish James Hansen had looked at the empirical climate evidence of the geologic record.

 

[HikerGuy83]

90% One line Burden shifting posts, just Baiting/Trolling/Last-Wording, Never Rebutting his opponents.
Because he has No case.
A poor relation to the "Demand Endless Detail Fallacy."

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He's rebutted you dozens of times. The rest of just look and cheer.

You can't win anything here. You probably couldn't even if you were the only one here.

Why he wastes his time with you, I don't know.

 

[HikerGuy83]

And in Fact, with the last few years/Decade of Record Warmth... AGW is being affirmed

Easily explained by other things. As has been done. You've got your lips so firmly attached to a chart of CO2 you can't see anything else. And nothing has been affirmed. In fact, the continual string of missed predictions has put you guys in the idiot's penalty box and NOBODY pays attention to you.

percent of Climate Scientist on board have grown to near unanimous.

Hahahahaha.....

So what.

95% of women are in favor of bra's.

What a shock.

 

[HikerGuy83]

James Hanson is a nut case.. Just like every other global warming nut.

But he is abu afak's hero.

 

[mamooth]

But he is abu afak's hero.

Check out HikerGuy going stalky. I hope he starts crying at me like that. It will drive him nuts when I spend weeks paying no attention to him, because I have a life.

Hansen, he's not a hero, but he is well-respected by all non-kooks.

Hansen doesn't commit fraud, hence deniers hate him. Cults are like that. The denier fraud cult orders its acolytes to hate honest and competent people, and Hansen is such a person.

The other aspect is that Hansen has been proven correct about every single thing. In contrast, deniers have been proven wrong about every single thing for over 40 years running. The denier record of failure is perfect and unblemished. Deniers know how bad that makes them look, so they lash out at the competent people.

Deniers blame Hansen for the way they've been faceplanting into a cow patty nonstop for over 40 years now. Hansen represents the face of their constant and ongoing humiliation, so they hates him forever.

 

[gtopa1]

Check out HikerGuy going stalky. I hope he starts crying at me like that. It will drive him nuts when I spend weeks paying no attention to him, because I have a life.

Hansen, he's not a hero, but he is well-respected by all non-kooks.

Hansen doesn't commit fraud, hence deniers hate him. Cults are like that. The denier fraud cult orders its acolytes to hate honest and competent people, and Hansen is such a person.

The other aspect is that Hansen has been proven correct about every single thing. In contrast, deniers have been proven wrong about every single thing for over 40 years running. The denier record of failure is perfect and unblemished. Deniers know how bad that makes them look, so they lash out at the competent people.

Deniers blame Hansen for the way they've been faceplanting into a cow patty nonstop for over 40 years now. Hansen represents the face of their constant and ongoing humiliation, so they hates him forever.

WRONG!!!

NASA's James Hansen is just wrong: Proof that there is no increased drought in the USA tied to temperature

From the James Hansen is just wrong department comes some inconvenient data, data that Dr. Hansen or anyone in the media could have easily looked up for themselves before writing irresponsible stor…

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from The NYT:

Dr. Hoerling contended that Dr. Hansen’s new paper confuses drought, caused primarily by a lack of rainfall, with heat waves.

“This isn’t a serious science paper,” Dr. Hoerling said. “It’s mainly about perception, as indicated by the paper’s title. Perception is not a science.”

Here’s a short editorial by Dr. Pat Michaels, former Virginia State Climatologist:

Editorial: 'Hansen is simply wrong' and 'his hypothesis is a complete and abject failure'

UPDATE: 9:55 AM PDT 8/8/12 A graph of Palmer Drought Severity Index -vs- GISTEMP data has been added from Dr. Michaels. Looks like another “GISS miss”. There’s a lot of blowback …

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The CO 2 emissions since 2000 to about 2.5 percent per year has increased, so that we would expect according to the Hansen paper a temperature rise, which should be stronger than in model A. Figure 1 shows the three Hansen scenarios and the real measured global temperature curve are shown. The protruding beyond Scenario A arrow represents the temperature value that the Hansen team would have predicted on the basis of a CO 2 increase of 2.5%. Be increased according to the Hansen’s forecast, the temperature would have compared to the same level in the 1970s by 1.5 ° C. In truth, however, the temperature has increased by only 0.6 ° C.

It is apparent that the next to it by the Hansen group in 1988 modeled temperature prediction by about 150%. It is extremely regrettable that precisely this type of modeling of our politicians is still regarded as a reliable climate prediction.

James Hansen's climate forecast of 1988: a whopping 150% wrong

From their Die kalte Sonne website, Professor Fritz Vahrenholt and Dr. Sebastian Lüning put up this guest Post by Prof. Jan-Erik Solheim (Oslo) on Hansen’s 1988 forecast, and show that Hansen was a…

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lmao

Greg

 

[mamooth]

WRONG!!!

Cool, a 2012 article from WUWT, a conspiracy website, that got everything wrong.

Back in reality, Hansen's 1988 model was extremely good.

https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming

A detailed look at Hansen's 1988 projections

skepticalscience.com

 

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Cool, a 2012 article from WUWT, a conspiracy website, that got everything wrong.

Back in reality, Hansen's 1988 model was extremely good.

https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming

A detailed look at Hansen's 1988 projections

skepticalscience.com

What does their model show when the AMOC shuts down?

 

[mamooth]

What does their model show when the AMOC shuts down?

What does that deflection have to do with how awesome his models were?

As far as the AMOC goes, that's a different topic.

RealClimate: The AMOC is slowing, it’s stable, it’s slowing, no, yes, …

RealClimate: There's been a bit of media whiplash on the issue of AMOC slowing lately - ranging from the AMOC being "on the brink of collapse" to it being "more stable than previously thought". AMOC, of course, refers to the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, one of the worlds major...

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Summary: It has weakened a bit. It could weaken more. That would cause localized cooling in the north Atlantic region, but things would warm up more elsewhere.

 

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What does that deflection have to do with how awesome his models were?

As far as the AMOC goes, that's a different topic.

RealClimate: The AMOC is slowing, it’s stable, it’s slowing, no, yes, …

RealClimate: There's been a bit of media whiplash on the issue of AMOC slowing lately - ranging from the AMOC being "on the brink of collapse" to it being "more stable than previously thought". AMOC, of course, refers to the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, one of the worlds major...

www.realclimate.org

Summary: It has weakened a bit. It could weaken more. That would cause localized cooling in the north Atlantic region, but things would warm up more elsewhere.

Any model which is calibrated using 20th century data to make predictions of 20th century data is flawed especially when it assumes there is no natural warming.