i've re-considered the entire Ukraine case.. enter *your* opinions please..

[AlexanderPK]

....so sexually molesting people is no big deal and having some prescribed, personal use weed on you is grounds for 10 year prison sentence.

This is exactly why people think Russia is a backward country.

Who, Weinstein? Those bitches were racing to get on his couch and now you call it molesting? You are fucked man, you really are. America is doomed, God help you speed that up.

 

[para bellum]

He had an occupancy deal, but access was controlled by Ukraine. Like Berlin in the late forties when the Soviets blockaded all surface access, Ukraine could shut down Russian access at will making the port useless.

The Ukrainian Navy was going to blockade the Black Sea Fleet?

If Russia's presence on the peninsula was limited to Sevestapol, Putin couldn't put airbases and S-400 batteries all over Crimea and threaten the airspace of Ukraine and Romania...

 

[georgephillip]

Their ideology doesn't coincide with the term 'democracy'. Their ideal was a 'national' Ukrainian state with a strong vertical of power.

Any white supremacy in their national Ukrainian state?
The US has enough home grown racists to bother with any corrupt, foreign-born master race loons.

"Yaroslav Stetsko with then-Vice President George H.W. Bush"

Ukraine: The CIA’s 75-year-old Proxy | MR Online

"Looking back, the U.S. under Truman began the policy of turning enemies (Germany, Japan) into friends and friends (the important war-time alliance with the USSR) into enemies.

"The CIA, established in 1947, was the main clandestine instrument of this policy, working closely with the neo-Nazi Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) to carry out acts to sabotage, divide and destabilize the Soviet state.

"The OUN, in particular the faction led by the German ally Stepan Bandera and his second in command, Yaroslav Stetsko, OUN-B, was a violently anti-semitic, anti-communist, and anti-Russian organization, which collaborated with the Nazi occupation and actively participated in the slaughter of millions of Poles, Ukrainian Jews, and ethnically Russian and Ukrainian communists in the region.

"Nonetheless, The Washington Post treated Stetsko as a national hero, a 'lonely patriot.'"

 

[para bellum]

Ideally, Ukraine should rely on a regional alliance. But when I think what members this alliance could comprise of.. Well, that is not a dream team, really.

Poland is with you, and they are in a full blown acquisition mode. Poland will have the most potent military in Europe in the not-very-distant future.

 

[AlexanderPK]

Poland is with you, and they are in a full blown acquisition mode. Poland will have the most potent military in Europe in the not-very-distant future.

Yeah, they will. Then they'll get hit on the muzzle as they always do and will be crying for reparations like they do now from Germany and Russia even. Boy, do they have the nerve?

 

[sparky]

1/2 century ago i listened to my elders asking 'why are we involved in any other country's civil war?'

Seems what comes around goes around.....

~S~

 

[gipper]

....so sexually molesting people is no big deal and having some prescribed, personal use weed on you is grounds for 10 year prison sentence.

This is exactly why people think Russia is a backward country.

It may be a backward country, but this has nothing to do with your support of this stupid war.

How many Ukrainians must die to satisfy you?

 

[georgephillip]

Anti-American tankies always blame America first.

Always have, always will.

Because they hate America.

How many millions of civilians has the US military maimed, murdered, and displaced since 1945?

For extra credit: How much profit ha$ that generated for U$ investor$?

 

[georgephillip]

1/2 century ago i listened to my elders asking 'why are we involved in any other country's civil war?'

Seems what comes around goes around.....

~S~

Particularly after we have instigated their civil wars in order to pump up arms sales.

Korea.
Vietnam.
Afghanistan (twice)
Iraq.
Syria.
Africa???

 

[georgephillip]

Keep sucking in that Russian propaganda, anti-American stooge.

How much money are you making from Ukrainian deaths, more than the Syrians and less than the Iraqis, Capitalist twit?

 

[AntonToo]

Who, Weinstein? Those bitches were racing to get on his couch and now you call it molesting? You are fucked man, you really are. America is doomed, God help you speed that up.

Speaks for itself.

 

[georgephillip]

If Russian speakers were really being killed in Ukraine just for speaking Russian, then we would see that all over Ukraine. Instead the conflict was ONLY in areas under controll of Russian backed SEPARATISTS, who refused Ukranian federal authority and were THE cause for conflict.

Russian speakers were being killed in the Donbass and elsewhere because they objected to an illegal coup that drove a duly elected ... you know the rest, right?

14,000 Ukrainians (mostly Russian speakers) died before Putin launched his special military operation designed to rid the country Nazis and NATO puppets intent on regime change in Moscow.

 

[georgephillip]

Like any country, Ukraine has a LEGITIMATE RIGHT to enforce it's borders. Like any country has a right to put down armed rebellions and separatists. Russia had ZERO legitimacy in annexing Ukranian Crimea and ZERO legitimacy in it's invasion.

Nazis and Victoria Nuland had no LEGITIMATE RIGHT to murder police officers and drive a duly elected president from office. Once that crime was committed, all Ukrainians had the RIGHT to protest. They STILL do.

 

[AntonToo]

Yeah, they will. Then they'll get hit on the muzzle as they always do and will be crying for reparations like they do now from Germany and Russia even. Boy, do they have the nerve?

This is why Russia can't get it togather to be half decent country, half the population talks like this drunk degenerate.

 

[AlexanderPK]

This is why Russia can't get it togather to be half decent country, half the population talks like this drunk degenerate.

Half of your population lives in a half decent tent under a bridge taking dump right beside it. I don't see you getting it together, but somehow you want us do it. What the hell?

 

[AlexanderPK]

So just to review: you Putinists are invading, bombing and land stealing the shit out of Ukraine....because America is supposedly bad.

Did I get the entire elegance of your stupid argument?

It's always you who start with spitting upon legitimacy first and stir up trouble, we respond later. That's the elegance of it all. There wouldn't have been trouble in the world had there been no America or Anglo-Saxons for that matter.

 

[AntonToo]

Half of your population lives in a half decent tent under a bridge taking dump right beside it. I don't see you getting it together, but somehow you want us do it. What the hell?

Pure bullshit. US is one of the richest countries.

Only a handful of people with mental health and addiction problems do that. Anyone in their right mind can get shelter and welfare support in US.

 

[AntonToo]

It's always you who start with spitting upon legitimacy first and stir up trouble, we respond later. That's the elegance of it all. There wouldn't have been trouble in the world had there been no America or Anglo-Saxons for that matter.

Again who is "you"? Russians are not attacking US, you are killing Ukrainians and your own people in this bloody invasion (50,000 killed already)

 

[georgephillip]

More possibly a good thing for coming to agreements. If US/Ukraine wants Russia to keep quiet about it - or if Ukraine/US does not want them killed. It's a very good bargaining chip.

Americans lack historical context when thinking about what's happening in Ukraine.
They don't know (and many don't care) about how long the US has been using Nazis to further their goals of Soviet/Russian regime change.
Some of the selfies coming from Kharkiv probably won't do much to educate the willfully ignorant:

"On May 29, the 'Azov' Kharkiv Special Operations Force detachment was officially formed in Kharkiv.

"According to Censor.NЕТ, this was stated in Telegram by Kostyantyn Nemychev.

"He noted, 'Today in Kharkiv, the unit of SOF 'Azov' Kharkiv has been officially formed. This is another of our combat unit, which will operate in the Kharkiv region and liberate our land from the occupants. Anatoly Sydorenko was appointed commander of this unit'.

Read more: Russia wants to recognize Azov as terroristic"
organization Source: https://censor.net/en/p3344662

https://censor.net/en/photo_news/3344662/in_kharkiv_officially_formed_sof_unit_azov_kharkiv_photos

Scott Ritter has speculated Putin may plan on upgrading his "special military operation" in Ukraine to a "counterterrorism" effort which would legally allow Russia to become much more aggressive in how it pursues its goal of de-Nazification in Ukraine.

 

[AntonToo]

Americans lack historical context when thinking about what's happening in Ukraine.
They don't know (and many don't care) about how long the US has been using Nazis to further their goals of Soviet/Russian regime change.

Nope! What we lack is the stupidity to belive such ludecrous propaganda.

Not in the wildest dreams did US forsee Putin's regime expanding NATO, crippling Russian exports to EU, and destroying itself in the way that it's doing now with this insane, half-assed invasion.

It's pure self-ejection for Putin.