Its July 4th.....Have you thanked a Liberal today???

Our founding fatherrs were the most extreme liberals of their day...

Imagine actually believing that "All men are created equal" in a day when royalty ruled by basis of their bloodlines and order of birth?

Imagine creating a country where a poor, illiterate laborer receives the same vote as the most wealthy citizen?

Liberal thought has improved this country since its founding

No, no it hasn't.

Liberals have given us Democracy, ended slavery, civil rights, womens rights, worker protections, environmental protections, social security, Medicare, Universal Healthcare....

You are welcome to identify a single initiative given to us by Conservatives

Why bother? Your whole premise is so utterly fucking retarded that trying to convince you that water is wet would be an exercise in futility.

Have a nice fourth... and BTW, maybe for your next thread you can educate us as to the contributions of the Klingons to modern American society?

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The whole premise seems to be that anything evil is conservative, and anything wonderful is liberal.. which of course is utter nonsense, even if I were to subsitute conservative for liberal and vica versa.

You are welcome to identify any significant initiative or achievement given to us by Conservatives of any era
 
Our founding fatherrs were the most extreme liberals of their day...

Imagine actually believing that "All men are created equal" in a day when royalty ruled by basis of their bloodlines and order of birth?

Imagine creating a country where a poor, illiterate laborer receives the same vote as the most wealthy citizen?


Liberal thought has improved this country since its founding

Try getting your head around some basic facts:

Our Founders were not 'radicals', they were not 'liberals', they were not fighting for some unique ideas about freedom, or individual rights (<--- that's a conservative stronghold, btw). Those ideas were not radical, or 'progressive'. Those ideas, 'freedom' and 'the rights of the individual' have their roots back waaaay before the Founders, way before the Pilgrims came.... in fact, those ideals are British ideals.... they date back to the Magna Carta (originally dated from 1215).

In fact, while the Brits may have screamed 'treason', it was not treason. No British law was broken when we broke away.... the Founders were merely exerting their rights as 'Englishmen'.

Name a single government of the time that provided equal rights, forbade an official class system, denounced royalty and gave one man-one vote

The founding of America seved as a model for all modern societies to follow
 
The whole premise seems to be that anything evil is conservative, and anything wonderful is liberal.. which of course is utter nonsense, even if I were to subsitute conservative for liberal and vica versa.

You are welcome to identify any significant initiative or achievement given to us by Conservatives of any era

You do realize that this nation was founded, in part, by a desire to break away from a form of government that had its tentacles in every aspect of people's lives don't you? This country was founded on the idea that a man should be able to freely get about his life without having the state up his ass at every turn. This nation was not founded on the principles of the state using tax collectors to monitor peoples health insurance purchases.

Get real.
 
Our founding fatherrs were the most extreme liberals of their day...

Imagine actually believing that "All men are created equal" in a day when royalty ruled by basis of their bloodlines and order of birth?

Imagine creating a country where a poor, illiterate laborer receives the same vote as the most wealthy citizen?


Liberal thought has improved this country since its founding

Try getting your head around some basic facts:

Our Founders were not 'radicals', they were not 'liberals', they were not fighting for some unique ideas about freedom, or individual rights (<--- that's a conservative stronghold, btw). Those ideas were not radical, or 'progressive'. Those ideas, 'freedom' and 'the rights of the individual' have their roots back waaaay before the Founders, way before the Pilgrims came.... in fact, those ideals are British ideals.... they date back to the Magna Carta (originally dated from 1215).

In fact, while the Brits may have screamed 'treason', it was not treason. No British law was broken when we broke away.... the Founders were merely exerting their rights as 'Englishmen'.

Name a single government of the time that provided equal rights, forbade an official class system, denounced royalty and gave one man-one vote

The founding of America seved as a model for all modern societies to follow
So why do dumbfucks as you want to destroy it while taking credit for it. Duplicity as usual?
 
The whole premise seems to be that anything evil is conservative, and anything wonderful is liberal.. which of course is utter nonsense, even if I were to subsitute conservative for liberal and vica versa.

You are welcome to identify any significant initiative or achievement given to us by Conservatives of any era

You are not welcome to claim the very founding of this nation as a 'liberal' achievement. You may not rewrite history. You may not steal the achievement of all our forefathers for your immoral bullshit.

And, you do not have permission to give your permission to any other American to decide what conservatives have given this nation. That permission is not yours to give.... but it is pretty typical of a fucking "liberal" to think that they do.

Fucking dumbass. You are an embarrassment to Americans - liberal, conservative, moderate or whatever else.
 
And it's (Repeat after me)...IDEPENDENCE DAY celebrated on the 4th of July.

Liberals love July 4, it's a day of independence from work. Well, the ones who work do. But their favorite holiday is Dependence Day, which they celebrate on April 15.
 
The whole premise seems to be that anything evil is conservative, and anything wonderful is liberal.. which of course is utter nonsense, even if I were to subsitute conservative for liberal and vica versa.

You are welcome to identify any significant initiative or achievement given to us by Conservatives of any era

You are not welcome to claim the very founding of this nation as a 'liberal' achievement. You may not rewrite history. You may not steal the achievement of all our forefathers for your immoral bullshit.

And, you do not have permission to give your permission to any other American to decide what conservatives have given this nation. That permission is not yours to give.... but it is pretty typical of a fucking "liberal" to think that they do.

Fucking dumbass. You are an embarrassment to Americans - liberal, conservative, moderate or whatever else.

I don't honestly believe RW'r believes any of this... it's too patently goofy.
 
Our founding fatherrs were the most extreme liberals of their day...

Imagine actually believing that "All men are created equal" in a day when royalty ruled by basis of their bloodlines and order of birth?

Imagine creating a country where a poor, illiterate laborer receives the same vote as the most wealthy citizen?


Liberal thought has improved this country since its founding

Try getting your head around some basic facts:

Our Founders were not 'radicals', they were not 'liberals', they were not fighting for some unique ideas about freedom, or individual rights (<--- that's a conservative stronghold, btw). Those ideas were not radical, or 'progressive'. Those ideas, 'freedom' and 'the rights of the individual' have their roots back waaaay before the Founders, way before the Pilgrims came.... in fact, those ideals are British ideals.... they date back to the Magna Carta (originally dated from 1215).

In fact, while the Brits may have screamed 'treason', it was not treason. No British law was broken when we broke away.... the Founders were merely exerting their rights as 'Englishmen'.

Name a single government of the time that provided equal rights, forbade an official class system, denounced royalty and gave one man-one vote

The founding of America seved as a model for all modern societies to follow

Read the Magna Carta, you fucking moron. Our society was based on that document, our Constitution is based on that document. Our Founders merely implemented an idea that the Brits failed to implement.

So, it was not a 'liberal' idea.

It was not a unique idea.

It wasn't ours - it was theirs. What we did was perfect it, and create a nation based on it. Our Founders belong to all Americans. They are not yours to claim. And to try to do so is pathetic, desperate, lies.
 
Yeah, JFK was a liberal too but look how far liberalism has drifted left in fifty years never mind 235 years. Today's libs are so desperate that they are reaching back 235 years and trying to compare modern liberalism/socialism with the courage of the Founding Fathers. It's downright disrespectful not to mention dishonest.
 
I know most of us are celebrating today with picnics, hot dogs and fireworks. But on this day of celebration of one of the most significant liberal accomplishments, it is time to reflect on just what this day means

Our liberal founding fathers shook the world when they declared that "All men are created equal" When you think of it, this was a time when royalty ruled by the merits of their blood alone. It was a time when different classes of people received different treatment from the government. It was a time when those who toiled in the fields received different treatment than those who owned the fields

In the most liberal concept of the day, our founding fathers stood up and declared .....We have god given rights to be treated the same as anyone else. Imagine declaring that royalty are no better than anyone else? Or that someone working in the fields deserved the same rights and the same vote as someone who owned the land or that some illiterate peasant deserved the same treatment as a royal family member.

Imagine what this country would be like if our founding fathers had listened to the conservatives of the day and remained loyal to the King or implemented a class system based on wealth?

Yes, this is a day of celebration of the greatest country in the history of the world. Take the time to be thankful for what this country gives us and find a liberal and give them a smile and a thumbs up for this special day

You're speaking of our Liberal slave-owning founding fathers? As soon as I find a slave owner, I'll thank him.

Thanks.
 
You are welcome to identify any significant initiative or achievement given to us by Conservatives of any era

You are not welcome to claim the very founding of this nation as a 'liberal' achievement. You may not rewrite history. You may not steal the achievement of all our forefathers for your immoral bullshit.

And, you do not have permission to give your permission to any other American to decide what conservatives have given this nation. That permission is not yours to give.... but it is pretty typical of a fucking "liberal" to think that they do.

Fucking dumbass. You are an embarrassment to Americans - liberal, conservative, moderate or whatever else.

I don't honestly believe RW'r believes any of this... it's too patently goofy.

Of course he doesn't. He's just so completely pathetic that he'll even use the founding of our nation as a political point scoring exercise. Unfortunately, for him - he lost. His credibility - what little he once may have had - is gone.
 
The whole premise seems to be that anything evil is conservative, and anything wonderful is liberal.. which of course is utter nonsense, even if I were to subsitute conservative for liberal and vica versa.

You are welcome to identify any significant initiative or achievement given to us by Conservatives of any era

You do realize that this nation was founded, in part, by a desire to break away from a form of government that had its tentacles in every aspect of people's lives don't you?

I don't think he realizes that walking in the rain without an umbrella is why he got wet...
 
You're not expecting intellectual honesty from modern liberals are you? They haven't the capacity for such decency.
 
You are welcome to identify any significant initiative or achievement given to us by Conservatives of any era

You do realize that this nation was founded, in part, by a desire to break away from a form of government that had its tentacles in every aspect of people's lives don't you?

I don't think he realizes that walking in the rain without an umbrella is why he got wet...

Oh.. that's fucking awesome.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
Yeah, JFK was a liberal too but look how far liberalism has drifted left in fifty years never mind 235 years. Today's libs are so desperate that they are reaching back 235 years and trying to compare modern liberalism/socialism with the courage of the Founding Fathers. It's downright disrespectful not to mention dishonest.

JFK wouldn't be considered a Liberal today, by any stretch of the imagination. Conservative yes, Liberal - no freaking way.
 

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