How has your marriage been hurt?

[Hutch Starskey]

I see you have learned the difference between whose and who's

My work here is done

Huh?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

All people are equal under the law. Period.
Marriage is simply a legal contract.
There’s no reason to exempt two consenting people from marriage. None.

Yet we still do, go ahead and try and marry a close relative.

 

[DukeU]

Nope, it is easy now to see why you are such an unhappy person.

It's your story, tell it any way you like.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It's your story, tell it any way you like.

Just call it like I see it.

 

[DukeU]

Just call it like I see it.

And make it up if you don't see it.

 

[d0gbreath]

I get it just fine. Marriage for the entire history of humankind has been a union between a man and a woman and the primary purpose of it is to establish blood lines, inherited traits, and provide a physically and emotionally stable situation for the children. It has been the strength of our nation and has provided far more advantages for individual as well as neighborhood, communities, states, and the country than any imperfections in it. And in the USA, almost ALL the marriage laws are to establish property rights and mostly for protection of any children produced by that marriage.

A gay relationship can be just as strong and just as meaningful but it can never be a traditional marriage. So same-sex couples were offered legal protections of inheritance, hospital visitations, tax benefits etc. but they would not be 'married' but a different word would apply. As there would be no children produced by the union, the same rules of no marriage between close relatives, blood tests, etc. would not be necessary but gay couples could have the legal protections they needed.

But that wasn't good enough. They wanted the WORD too. And therefore changed its definition probably forever which benefits nobody and in my opinion has weakened us as a strong society.

I don't expect you or any other hard leftists to accept or even understand the argument. But I will stand by it.

What was that different word that would've applied? I know that you don't know. Sorry, just teasing.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Yet there are books in school libraries teaching boys how To give blow jobs to adult men and how to ise Grindr to arrange sexual hookups.

Give one single example, or leave the board, forever.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Give one single example, or leave the board, forever.

Gender Queer and This Book is Gay.

Acknowledge the truth as to what they contain or leave this board forever.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Gender Queer and This Book is Gay.

Acknowledge the truth as to what they contain or leave this board forever.

You cannot prove they are in elementary schools. Leave the board!

 

[Dragonlady]

Gay marriage has nothing to do with religion. It does not affect the marriages held in churches. You are free to ban gays in your church.

Religion is a a cover.

The real motive behind the hate is the haters don't want gays receiving the same government cash and prices as they do.

They want gays dead or in prison. Or at the very least stuffed in a closet.

The religious radicals don’t want being gay “normalized” in any way because their children will come out of the closet.

If their children learn that being gay is based on their biology, and it is not a perversion or a moral failing, they won’t be able to shame them into staying in the closet.

As a traditionally married Christian I'm more than good with getting rid of marriage altogether and just creating unions. Good enough.

Marriage laws were CREATED because people of all religions needed a fair unbiased understanding of what society expected of them in marriage. The tax breaks came about as a way of encouraging permanence in relationships. What about when the "union" ends. What about the mutual property? What about parenting and support for the children?

Have you ever been divorced? These are decisions that need to be made at a point when the parties are going through the worst emotional crisis in their lives. Divorce is emotionally the most stressful situation you will ever face.

Marriage and divorce laws codify the legal partnership formed by marriage and child bearing, and the rights and responsibilities each partner has towards the other, both during the marriage, and in the event of divorce, upon it's dissolution.

Since marriage is a secular contract, marriage and divorce laws are not subject to any religious exemptions or considerations. Sharia law cannot apply to property division or child custody matters. Neither can "Christian traditions". Catholics cannot be refused a legal divorce, although the Church refuses to recognize it, and will consider the parties to be adulterers if either remarries. Many Christian sects ban divorce, or refuse to allow divorced people to remarry. Secular law allows divorced people to legally remarry and those marriages are legal and valid in the eyes of the courts.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I get it just fine. Marriage for the entire history of humankind has been a union between a man and a woman and the primary purpose of it is to establish blood lines, inherited traits, and provide a physically and emotionally stable situation for the children. It has been the strength of our nation and has provided far more advantages for individual as well as neighborhood, communities, states, and the country than any imperfections in it. And in the USA, almost ALL the marriage laws are to establish property rights and mostly for protection of any children produced by that marriage.

A gay relationship can be just as strong and just as meaningful but it can never be a traditional marriage. So same-sex couples were offered legal protections of inheritance, hospital visitations, tax benefits etc. but they would not be 'married' but a different word would apply. As there would be no children produced by the union, the same rules of no marriage between close relatives, blood tests, etc. would not be necessary but gay couples could have the legal protections they needed.

But that wasn't good enough. They wanted the WORD too. And therefore changed its definition probably forever which benefits nobody and in my opinion has weakened us as a strong society.

I don't expect you or any other hard leftists to accept or even understand the argument. But I will stand by it.

Separate but equal never works, and that is what you are pushing.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The presence of the book “Gender Queer: A Memoir” in elementary libraries has sparked controversy in some states. The book, written by Maia Kobabe, is a graphic novel that tells the author’s story of growing up nonbinary. It explores themes related to gender identity and nonbinary experiences. However, opinions on its appropriateness for school libraries vary.

Here are some key points:

1. South Carolina:
   • South Carolina Governor Henry McMaster raised concerns about the book’s content, calling some of its images “obscene.”
   • He asked the South Carolina Superintendent of Education, Molly Spearman, to investigate how the book ended up in public school libraries.
   • The book contains sexually explicit and pornographic depictions, which McMaster claims meet or exceed the statutory definition of obscenity1.
2. North Carolina:
   • Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson pointed to “Gender Queer” as an example of what he called “filth” in public schools.
   • However, there’s no indication that the book is being taught in the classroom in North Carolina1.
3. National Education Association (NEA):
   • The NEA recommended “Gender Queer” to its members but clarified that it was recommended reading for adults, not students2.
4. Local Decisions:
   • Local school officials decide what to put in libraries, not the state.
   • In some cases, school districts have determined that the book is not “age-appropriate” for students and removed it from libraries1.

In summary, while “Gender Queer” is available in some high school libraries, its presence in elementary libraries varies by location. Some consider it valuable for exploring diverse identities, while others raise concerns about its content. Ultimately, decisions about library materials are made at the local level12.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Separate but equal never works, and that is what you are pushing.

Gay marriage does not have meet the meaning of "traditional marriage" to traditional people, who need to mind their own business.

 

[Mac-7]

The only “experts” are the homosexuals themselves

They know the feelings they have. They know if they were groomed, they know whether they someday ”changed”

Overwhelmingly, these experts say they have always felt this way

Children do not have enough life experience to know when they are being groomed

For homos the defective gene theory is just an excuse for their perversion

 

[Foxfyre]

Separate but equal never works, and that is what you are pushing.

Nope. Not separate but equal at all. There is marriage which traditionally in ALL religious and cultural beliefs is the union between a man and a woman going back to the beginning of human recorded history. And then there is something else that meets the needs of others who for whatever reason do not wish to marry.

 

[Mac-7]

The presence of the book “Gender Queer: A Memoir” in elementary libraries has sparked controversy in some states. The book, written by Maia Kobabe, is a graphic novel that tells the author’s story of growing up nonbinary. It explores themes related to gender identity and nonbinary experiences. However, opinions on its appropriateness for school libraries vary.

Here are some key points:

1. South Carolina:
   • South Carolina Governor Henry McMaster raised concerns about the book’s content, calling some of its images “obscene.”
   • He asked the South Carolina Superintendent of Education, Molly Spearman, to investigate how the book ended up in public school libraries.
   • The book contains sexually explicit and pornographic depictions, which McMaster claims meet or exceed the statutory definition of obscenity1.
2. North Carolina:
   • Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson pointed to “Gender Queer” as an example of what he called “filth” in public schools.
   • However, there’s no indication that the book is being taught in the classroom in North Carolina1.
3. National Education Association (NEA):
   • The NEA recommended “Gender Queer” to its members but clarified that it was recommended reading for adults, not students2.
4. Local Decisions:
   • Local school officials decide what to put in libraries, not the state.
   • In some cases, school districts have determined that the book is not “age-appropriate” for students and removed it from libraries1.

In summary, while “Gender Queer” is available in some high school libraries, its presence in elementary libraries varies by location. Some consider it valuable for exploring diverse identities, while others raise concerns about its content. Ultimately, decisions about library materials are made at the local level12.

“Non-binary?”

Libs never tire of perversion

even to the language of weird sex itself

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Mac-7 believes what he believes is 'normal' and The Good. My goodness.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Nope. Not separate but equal at all. There is marriage which traditionally in ALL religious and cultural beliefs is the union between a man and a woman going back to the beginning of human recorded history. And then there is something else that meets the needs of others who for whatever reason do not wish to marry.

Marriage is a construct of society, thus society can define it any way they like.

 

[Mac-7]

Mac-7 believes what he believes is 'normal' and The Good. My goodness.

I dont believe men’s buttholes were designed for sex with other men

That’s perversion, along with countless other disgusting things that gays do for pleasure

 

[Mac-7]

Marriage is a construct of society, thus society can define it any way they like.

Marriage was a union between a man and a woman long before you came along