It Is DONE - Welcome To Being Treated Just Like Every Other Business in the US Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc....

[Cecilie1200]

It's Done.... Twitter is now free to exercise whatever control it wants, run its company any way it wants....without any Government 'Liability Shield' just like so many other companies and businesses across this country have to do every day.....

BAM: Trump Signs Executive Order Calling for Social Media Companies to Lose Liability Protections if They Discriminate

pjmedia.com

'On Thursday, President Donald Trump signed an executive order to strip social media companies of their “liability shield” if they engage in censorship or political content.'

Welcome to being treated just like every other business, Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc....

This executive order, like so many Trump pronouncements, has absolutely no teeth and will probably be struck down by the courts.

Executive orders aren't really supposed to have "teeth", moron. You're thinking of FORMER President Obama's misuse of them as ersatz laws. An executive order CORRECTLY used is an official instruction to a department of the executive branch, in this case the FCC.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Now they need to be just "platforms" and not "publishers". Well done Trump!

For the life of me, I do not understand why conservatives would rather bitch and complain about leftist companies mistreating them - while continuing to patronize them and give them their money - than just take their money elsewhere. Granted, I realize there aren't non-leftist alternatives to Facebook and Twitter, et al. yet, so I'm not objecting to demands that they live up to their own Terms of Service. But there COULD be alternatives, if people would just make the effort.

 

[easyt65]

Murky messaging: Facebook allowed 'Death to America' advertising but censors US back-to-work rallies


Iran-backed groups have had a long track record of using the platform for propaganda – and lethal – purposes, of which both the shadowy outfits behind them and Facebook itself has seemingly profited.

Last year, Facebook was filled with "sponsored" content featuring signs "Death to America."

When asked by members to review the posts for TOS violations, Facebook responded by essentially saying, 'Thanks, but 'DeathTo America' posted by Iranians does NOT 'violate our community standards'

"A specialist from our team reviewed the post again and confirmed that it doesn't go against our Community Standards, including hate speech," the response read. "We base our policies our Community Standards on input from the people who use Facebook around the world, as well as experts."

WTF?! WHOSE Community would that be? Tehran? Beijing?

MEANWHILE ...

"The problem is Facebook allowed those ads but banned pro-life ads in Ireland during the campaign whether to allow abortion or not. Facebook isn't consistently pro-freedom at all."

And as for the future of Facebook amid Trump's legislative push, some say that regardless of how it plays out, it is time for a reboot.

"Why should big tech platforms have an unfair business advantage and be immune from lawsuits when other businesses are not afforded this advantage? This law has not been changed in 24 years. It is important that we review this policy to see if it still makes sense for the 2020 digital economy and ecosystem we live in and beyond," Ruby added. "You can't say on the one hand that you are not responsible for the content that appears on your platform, but on the other say, here is a list of 50 reasons why we will delete your content."

Facebook did not respond to a request for comment."

Murky messaging: Facebook allowed 'Death to America' advertising but censors US back-to-work rallies

When it comes to violating Facebook’s guidelines, it is often anyone’s guess what will fly and what will fall.

www.foxnews.com

.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

It's Done.... Twitter is now free to exercise whatever control it wants, run its company any way it wants....without any Government 'Liability Shield' just like so many other companies and businesses across this country have to do every day.....

BAM: Trump Signs Executive Order Calling for Social Media Companies to Lose Liability Protections if They Discriminate

pjmedia.com

'On Thursday, President Donald Trump signed an executive order to strip social media companies of their “liability shield” if they engage in censorship or political content.'

Welcome to being treated just like every other business, Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc....

This executive order, like so many Trump pronouncements, has absolutely no teeth and will probably be struck down by the courts.

Why do you say that? If they engage in editorializing content, then they are a publisher. If they want to remain a platform for views and not become an editor, then they are fine to continue with the protection. The social media needs to decide who they want to be when they grow up and then they can be assigned appropriately.

Yippee. If Trumpy Bear gets his way, the floodgates are open for everyone he has every attacked or slandered on Twitter, to sue him. The Bidens, the Rich Family, Ambassador Stevens Family, and all of the women he called "liars" when they accused him of sexual assault, can now sue him, as can Joe Scarborough, Hillary Clinton, and Comey, Brennan, and everyone else he disparaged via twitter while firing.

TRUMP WILL BE BANKRUPTED BY THE SLANDER SUITS.

More prognostications from the person who reads the crystal ball in her ass (which means that is where her head is too).

And no, that isn't what it means.

It means that Twitter can't censure anyone without facing some kind of retribution.

You can't sue anymore after this than you could before (guess what...you could already and many have).

You are a moron.

 

[FA_Q2]

“Today, I am signing an Executive Order to protect and uphold the free speech and rights of the American people,” Trump declared. “Currently, social media giants like Twitter receive an unprecedented liability shield based on the theory that they’re a neutral platform, which they are not, not an editor with a viewpoint.

My executive order calls for new regulations under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act to make it so that social media companies that engage in censoring or any political conduct will not be able to keep their liability shield.

My executive order further instructs the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to prohibit social media companies from engaging in any deceptive acts or practices regarding commerce.”



The United States Government should not be in the business of picking select companies to reward with liability shields, especially when they operate in ways that are against the US Constitution and Constitutional Rights.

The President did NOT take action to stop Twitters and other private companies from operating as they so choose but took action to remove govt protections that prevent them from having to face the consequences of their choice to operate their companies as they choose.

The President did not strip Twitter of anything that was 'theirs'. He just acted to deny giving companies like Twitter protections they did not earn and did not deserve.





.

This is the appropriate remedy.

He had no right to shut them down, and his threats to do so were quite troubling.

But, this is every bit appropriate if they are going to continue to use Section 230 as both a sword and a shield. Either be a publication or be a provider.


.

No, its not.

They are not editorializing, they are censoring content on their own damn property. There is no reason that they should be liable for the bad comments of others on their site.

They sensor here (and they do so in a manner that can be construed to be political). Should I be able to sue usmessageboards because you libel me? This is a sick case of Trump using the government to control the public message.

Censoring is editorializing, moron. If they don't want to follow the rules, then their protection from lawsuits will be stripped from them.

Nope, every website censors. Including this one.

Want this law to go away then message boards like this one will cease to exist. That is just a fact.

 

[easyt65]

Want this law to go away then message boards like this one will cease to exist. That is just a fact.

1. It is not a 'fact' - it is your subjective opinion.

2. Is this site covered by 302 protection?

If USMB is not have 302 protection and yet still exists that would definitely prove #1 is true.

 

[Norman]

Murky messaging: Facebook allowed 'Death to America' advertising but censors US back-to-work rallies


Iran-backed groups have had a long track record of using the platform for propaganda – and lethal – purposes, of which both the shadowy outfits behind them and Facebook itself has seemingly profited.

Last year, Facebook was filled with "sponsored" content featuring signs "Death to America."

When asked by members to review the posts for TOS violations, Facebook responded by essentially saying, 'Thanks, but 'DeathTo America' posted by Iranians does NOT 'violate our community standards'

"A specialist from our team reviewed the post again and confirmed that it doesn't go against our Community Standards, including hate speech," the response read. "We base our policies our Community Standards on input from the people who use Facebook around the world, as well as experts."

WTF?! WHOSE Community would that be? Tehran? Beijing?

MEANWHILE ...

"The problem is Facebook allowed those ads but banned pro-life ads in Ireland during the campaign whether to allow abortion or not. Facebook isn't consistently pro-freedom at all."

And as for the future of Facebook amid Trump's legislative push, some say that regardless of how it plays out, it is time for a reboot.

"Why should big tech platforms have an unfair business advantage and be immune from lawsuits when other businesses are not afforded this advantage? This law has not been changed in 24 years. It is important that we review this policy to see if it still makes sense for the 2020 digital economy and ecosystem we live in and beyond," Ruby added. "You can't say on the one hand that you are not responsible for the content that appears on your platform, but on the other say, here is a list of 50 reasons why we will delete your content."

Facebook did not respond to a request for comment."

Murky messaging: Facebook allowed 'Death to America' advertising but censors US back-to-work rallies

When it comes to violating Facebook’s guidelines, it is often anyone’s guess what will fly and what will fall.

www.foxnews.com

.

Yup, they have employed some far left fact checkers who hate white people and America.

 

[FA_Q2]

Asinine. It will not stand.

what won't stand? enforcing the intent behind section 230?

yea, it will. not for twitter but for all social media. their day of a free run w/o check is over.

Turning it into a hammer with which to threaten specific companies that do not tow the line.

 

[Cecilie1200]

“Today, I am signing an Executive Order to protect and uphold the free speech and rights of the American people,” Trump declared. “Currently, social media giants like Twitter receive an unprecedented liability shield based on the theory that they’re a neutral platform, which they are not, not an editor with a viewpoint.

My executive order calls for new regulations under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act to make it so that social media companies that engage in censoring or any political conduct will not be able to keep their liability shield.

My executive order further instructs the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to prohibit social media companies from engaging in any deceptive acts or practices regarding commerce.”



The United States Government should not be in the business of picking select companies to reward with liability shields, especially when they operate in ways that are against the US Constitution and Constitutional Rights.

The President did NOT take action to stop Twitters and other private companies from operating as they so choose but took action to remove govt protections that prevent them from having to face the consequences of their choice to operate their companies as they choose.

The President did not strip Twitter of anything that was 'theirs'. He just acted to deny giving companies like Twitter protections they did not earn and did not deserve.





.

Well, in fact, that provision in the Communications Decency Act isn't a protection for select companies. It also protects, for example, news websites that have Comments sections, so that they can enforce standards about offensive language and harassment without suddenly becoming "publishers".

But you're correct that Twitter has gone far beyond that level, and is now unfairly eating its cake and having it, too.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Tell me that after the lawsuits.

What law suits? Are you going to tell me that Twitter is going to sue the US government, demanding the government GIVES them special immunity to accountability, special protection that the vast majority of private businesses are not given?

Bwuhahahahahahaha.....

I can bet you they will just like they did to Oblama when he wrote an EO his ass couldn't cash...

They might.

This is different from Obama's EOs. Trump is asking his own branch of government to further regulate. There is nothing unconstitutional about that (well, at least under 100 years of precedent). But, since when has that stop litigation?

It would be a lot easier for everyone if Twitter/Facebook/etc. would just stop acting like the "truth police" and they can keep their "provider" status.

.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Want this law to go away then message boards like this one will cease to exist. That is just a fact.

1. It is not a 'fact' - it is your subjective opinion.

2. Is this site covered by 302 protection?

302 protection? someone got their talking points mixed up. lol


here is how USMB covers its ass to escape liability. Shield provided by section 230 of the cda. Terms and rules

 

[iceberg]

Murky messaging: Facebook allowed 'Death to America' advertising but censors US back-to-work rallies


Iran-backed groups have had a long track record of using the platform for propaganda – and lethal – purposes, of which both the shadowy outfits behind them and Facebook itself has seemingly profited.

Last year, Facebook was filled with "sponsored" content featuring signs "Death to America."

When asked by members to review the posts for TOS violations, Facebook responded by essentially saying, 'Thanks, but 'DeathTo America' posted by Iranians does NOT 'violate our community standards'

"A specialist from our team reviewed the post again and confirmed that it doesn't go against our Community Standards, including hate speech," the response read. "We base our policies our Community Standards on input from the people who use Facebook around the world, as well as experts."

WTF?! WHOSE Community would that be? Tehran? Beijing?

MEANWHILE ...

"The problem is Facebook allowed those ads but banned pro-life ads in Ireland during the campaign whether to allow abortion or not. Facebook isn't consistently pro-freedom at all."

And as for the future of Facebook amid Trump's legislative push, some say that regardless of how it plays out, it is time for a reboot.

"Why should big tech platforms have an unfair business advantage and be immune from lawsuits when other businesses are not afforded this advantage? This law has not been changed in 24 years. It is important that we review this policy to see if it still makes sense for the 2020 digital economy and ecosystem we live in and beyond," Ruby added. "You can't say on the one hand that you are not responsible for the content that appears on your platform, but on the other say, here is a list of 50 reasons why we will delete your content."

Facebook did not respond to a request for comment."

Murky messaging: Facebook allowed 'Death to America' advertising but censors US back-to-work rallies

When it comes to violating Facebook’s guidelines, it is often anyone’s guess what will fly and what will fall.

www.foxnews.com

.

Yup, they have employed some far left fact checkers who hate white people and America.

politifact is a project of poynter institude which is left based leading media company in Tampa.

if you own a newspaper or media, you should not be in the fact checking business. talk about conflict of interest.

Poynter Institute for Media Studies - InfluenceWatch

The Poynter Institute for Media Studies is a nonprofit journalism institution located in St. Petersburg, Florida. It owns and controls Times Publishing Company, which publishes the Tampa Bay Times and previously published Congressional Quarterly. Poynter operates the controversial left-of-center...

www.influencewatch.org

 

[ColonelAngus]

It's Done.... Twitter is now free to exercise whatever control it wants, run its company any way it wants....without any Government 'Liability Shield' just like so many other companies and businesses across this country have to do every day.....

BAM: Trump Signs Executive Order Calling for Social Media Companies to Lose Liability Protections if They Discriminate

pjmedia.com

'On Thursday, President Donald Trump signed an executive order to strip social media companies of their “liability shield” if they engage in censorship or political content.'

Welcome to being treated just like every other business, Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc....

This executive order, like so many Trump pronouncements, has absolutely no teeth and will probably be struck down by the courts.

Why? Twitter acted as a publisher, not a platform.

Why should it be struck down by the courts, specifically?

 

[FA_Q2]

“Today, I am signing an Executive Order to protect and uphold the free speech and rights of the American people,” Trump declared. “Currently, social media giants like Twitter receive an unprecedented liability shield based on the theory that they’re a neutral platform, which they are not, not an editor with a viewpoint.

My executive order calls for new regulations under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act to make it so that social media companies that engage in censoring or any political conduct will not be able to keep their liability shield.

My executive order further instructs the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to prohibit social media companies from engaging in any deceptive acts or practices regarding commerce.”



The United States Government should not be in the business of picking select companies to reward with liability shields, especially when they operate in ways that are against the US Constitution and Constitutional Rights.

The President did NOT take action to stop Twitters and other private companies from operating as they so choose but took action to remove govt protections that prevent them from having to face the consequences of their choice to operate their companies as they choose.

The President did not strip Twitter of anything that was 'theirs'. He just acted to deny giving companies like Twitter protections they did not earn and did not deserve.





.

This is the appropriate remedy.

He had no right to shut them down, and his threats to do so were quite troubling.

But, this is every bit appropriate if they are going to continue to use Section 230 as both a sword and a shield. Either be a publication or be a provider.


.

No, its not.

They are not editorializing, they are censoring content on their own damn property. There is no reason that they should be liable for the bad comments of others on their site.

They sensor here (and they do so in a manner that can be construed to be political). Should I be able to sue usmessageboards because you libel me? This is a sick case of Trump using the government to control the public message.

you miss the entire point of Sec 230, don't you? it really applies TO boards like this. it shields them from being libel for the things we say on here. it should be there because they shouldn't be libel for what i say.

but if i post something illegal or against the rules of the forum, it can be deleted and i can be booted.

social media is so far beyond a bbs system it's idiotic to have people continue to compare the 2 as the same thing.

No, I do not miss the point and yes comment sections are quite similar to boards like this. Twitter and FB are quite different but the law applies to them in a similar manner quite well. Trump wants to target and remove 230 protections from specific companies that he does not like because they censor his content. That is not tenable. Nor are the 230 protections misplaced in how they are currently enforced. It does not protect statements from twitter and FB but does protect them from content that others place on their website exactly as the law was intended.

Certainly, the pervasiveness of social media platforms was not foreseen by lawmakers when creating the legislation but it certainly is serving its purpose as intended. The only reason outrage exists now in the political sphere is because some lawmakers and people do not like the decisions that private entities are making with their private property.

Tough shit.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's Done.... Twitter is now free to exercise whatever control it wants, run its company any way it wants....without any Government 'Liability Shield' just like so many other companies and businesses across this country have to do every day.....

BAM: Trump Signs Executive Order Calling for Social Media Companies to Lose Liability Protections if They Discriminate

pjmedia.com

'On Thursday, President Donald Trump signed an executive order to strip social media companies of their “liability shield” if they engage in censorship or political content.'

Welcome to being treated just like every other business, Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc....

Time to treat them like they were a Christian bakery

 

[Cecilie1200]

It's Done.... Twitter is now free to exercise whatever control it wants, run its company any way it wants....without any Government 'Liability Shield' just like so many other companies and businesses across this country have to do every day.....

BAM: Trump Signs Executive Order Calling for Social Media Companies to Lose Liability Protections if They Discriminate

pjmedia.com

'On Thursday, President Donald Trump signed an executive order to strip social media companies of their “liability shield” if they engage in censorship or political content.'

Welcome to being treated just like every other business, Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc....

Nothing is done. Trump signing a meaningless piece of paper doesn't make anything happen. Donald Trump doesn't have the legal authority to do this. Separation of powers, bitches. Please take and American civics lesson before posting.

Oh, I was SO hoping the resident Canadian dementia patient would come by to treat us to a lecture about how OUR country actually works, because she knows it so much better than we do from LIVING SOMEWHERE ELSE.

"Separation of powers. The media has told me that's a very important catch phrase in America, so I'll squawk it out for no reason whatsoever and feel like I'm saying something important."

Different country, bitch. Please live in America before posting. And please tell the nursing home staff that it's time to change your Depends.

 

[22lcidw]

It's Done.... Twitter is now free to exercise whatever control it wants, run its company any way it wants....without any Government 'Liability Shield' just like so many other companies and businesses across this country have to do every day.....

BAM: Trump Signs Executive Order Calling for Social Media Companies to Lose Liability Protections if They Discriminate

pjmedia.com

'On Thursday, President Donald Trump signed an executive order to strip social media companies of their “liability shield” if they engage in censorship or political content.'

Welcome to being treated just like every other business, Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc....

This executive order, like so many Trump pronouncements, has absolutely no teeth and will probably be struck down by the courts.

Can't have that 95% pro pro socialist communist bilge vermin questioned, can we?

 

[bripat9643]

“Today, I am signing an Executive Order to protect and uphold the free speech and rights of the American people,” Trump declared. “Currently, social media giants like Twitter receive an unprecedented liability shield based on the theory that they’re a neutral platform, which they are not, not an editor with a viewpoint.

My executive order calls for new regulations under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act to make it so that social media companies that engage in censoring or any political conduct will not be able to keep their liability shield.

My executive order further instructs the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to prohibit social media companies from engaging in any deceptive acts or practices regarding commerce.”



The United States Government should not be in the business of picking select companies to reward with liability shields, especially when they operate in ways that are against the US Constitution and Constitutional Rights.

The President did NOT take action to stop Twitters and other private companies from operating as they so choose but took action to remove govt protections that prevent them from having to face the consequences of their choice to operate their companies as they choose.

The President did not strip Twitter of anything that was 'theirs'. He just acted to deny giving companies like Twitter protections they did not earn and did not deserve.





.

This is the appropriate remedy.

He had no right to shut them down, and his threats to do so were quite troubling.

But, this is every bit appropriate if they are going to continue to use Section 230 as both a sword and a shield. Either be a publication or be a provider.


.

No, its not.

They are not editorializing, they are censoring content on their own damn property. There is no reason that they should be liable for the bad comments of others on their site.

They sensor here (and they do so in a manner that can be construed to be political). Should I be able to sue usmessageboards because you libel me? This is a sick case of Trump using the government to control the public message.

Censoring is editorializing, moron. If they don't want to follow the rules, then their protection from lawsuits will be stripped from them.

Nope, every website censors. Including this one.

Want this law to go away then message boards like this one will cease to exist. That is just a fact.

This website can be sued, and so will twitter if it censors content based on the subjective content they have been using.

 

[Cecilie1200]

It's Done.... Twitter is now free to exercise whatever control it wants, run its company any way it wants....without any Government 'Liability Shield' just like so many other companies and businesses across this country have to do every day.....

BAM: Trump Signs Executive Order Calling for Social Media Companies to Lose Liability Protections if They Discriminate

pjmedia.com

'On Thursday, President Donald Trump signed an executive order to strip social media companies of their “liability shield” if they engage in censorship or political content.'

Welcome to being treated just like every other business, Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc....

This executive order, like so many Trump pronouncements, has absolutely no teeth and will probably be struck down by the courts.

Why do you say that? If they engage in editorializing content, then they are a publisher. If they want to remain a platform for views and not become an editor, then they are fine to continue with the protection. The social media needs to decide who they want to be when they grow up and then they can be assigned appropriately.

Yippee. If Trumpy Bear gets his way, the floodgates are open for everyone he has every attacked or slandered on Twitter, to sue him. The Bidens, the Rich Family, Ambassador Stevens Family, and all of the women he called "liars" when they accused him of sexual assault, can now sue him, as can Joe Scarborough, Hillary Clinton, and Comey, Brennan, and everyone else he disparaged via twitter while firing.

TRUMP WILL BE BANKRUPTED BY THE SLANDER SUITS.

Yippee. If "Trumpy Bear" (God, you are just SO witty . . . NOT) gets his way . . . IT STILL WON'T BE ANY FUCKING BUSINESS OF YOURS. Not your country, not your President, not anything you have ever or will ever post anything intelligent or meaningful about.

"I'm just SURE this means Trump will be sued for his tweets, because tweets have to do with Twitter, right? That's a smart connection to make, isn't it?"

I just can't even deal with this level of arrogant stupidity.

 

[iceberg]

“Today, I am signing an Executive Order to protect and uphold the free speech and rights of the American people,” Trump declared. “Currently, social media giants like Twitter receive an unprecedented liability shield based on the theory that they’re a neutral platform, which they are not, not an editor with a viewpoint.

My executive order calls for new regulations under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act to make it so that social media companies that engage in censoring or any political conduct will not be able to keep their liability shield.

My executive order further instructs the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to prohibit social media companies from engaging in any deceptive acts or practices regarding commerce.”



The United States Government should not be in the business of picking select companies to reward with liability shields, especially when they operate in ways that are against the US Constitution and Constitutional Rights.

The President did NOT take action to stop Twitters and other private companies from operating as they so choose but took action to remove govt protections that prevent them from having to face the consequences of their choice to operate their companies as they choose.

The President did not strip Twitter of anything that was 'theirs'. He just acted to deny giving companies like Twitter protections they did not earn and did not deserve.





.

This is the appropriate remedy.

He had no right to shut them down, and his threats to do so were quite troubling.

But, this is every bit appropriate if they are going to continue to use Section 230 as both a sword and a shield. Either be a publication or be a provider.


.

No, its not.

They are not editorializing, they are censoring content on their own damn property. There is no reason that they should be liable for the bad comments of others on their site.

They sensor here (and they do so in a manner that can be construed to be political). Should I be able to sue usmessageboards because you libel me? This is a sick case of Trump using the government to control the public message.

you miss the entire point of Sec 230, don't you? it really applies TO boards like this. it shields them from being libel for the things we say on here. it should be there because they shouldn't be libel for what i say.

but if i post something illegal or against the rules of the forum, it can be deleted and i can be booted.

social media is so far beyond a bbs system it's idiotic to have people continue to compare the 2 as the same thing.

No, I do not miss the point and yes comment sections are quite similar to boards like this. Twitter and FB are quite different but the law applies to them in a similar manner quite well. Trump wants to target and remove 230 protections from specific companies that he does not like because they censor his content. That is not tenable. Nor are the 230 protections misplaced in how they are currently enforced. It does not protect statements from twitter and FB but does protect them from content that others place on their website exactly as the law was intended.

Certainly, the pervasiveness of social media platforms was not foreseen by lawmakers when creating the legislation but it certainly is serving its purpose as intended. The only reason outrage exists now in the political sphere is because some lawmakers and people do not like the decisions that private entities are making with their private property.

Tough shit.

it has nothing to do with what trump likes or does not. to try and make it that simple is simply to feed your TDS and anti-trump "everything he does is" wrong limited mental capability.

you can't be both a platform and publisher. hell you're not supposed to own more than 3 "news" sites and that law has been pushed around also.

we need to separate these out. period.

and when you sell me space on your property, it's no longer private. they make money from my using their services, i am "paying" for that.

you can make this about trump if you like - but that's your own set limitation in what is really happening. this shit has been coming long before trump was in office. but hey - orange man bad n shit.