CDZ Islam and Muslims

[Sunni Man]

I will entertain legitimate questions about Islam and muslims.

They will be answered from a Sunni muslim perspective.

Questions I deem to be attacks or disingenuous will be ignored. .....

 

[Coyote]

Do you find there are many points of commonality between Islam and Christianity or more differences? I'm curious because you've posted before that you came from a Christian background

 

[Sunni Man]

Do you find there are many points of commonality between Islam and Christianity or more differences? I'm curious because you've posted before that you came from a Christian background

Although there are similarities between Christianity and Islam.....mainly belief in Jesus's birth, miracles, and prophethood.....and the End Times chronology.

Judaism and Islam share a lot in common. Ranging from Levitical laws, dietary restrictions, to reverence of the major Prophets. .....

 

[RodISHI]

Is there anywhere in the Koran that suggest to follow these laws/rules about maiming the physical body of an offender spiritually verses applying them carnally? Also is there anything in there that says this is for personal beliefs (i.e. Jesus a personal savior not to be forced on another)?

 

[Coyote]

What are the main differences between Shia, Sunni, Sufi, Ahmadiyya?

 

[DarkFury]

Why have we not seen a split to say American Islam? You have Catholics {American} and Roman Catholics {Europe}.

 

[Sunni Man]

Is there anywhere in the Koran that suggest to follow these laws/rules about maiming the physical body of an offender spiritually verses applying them carnally? Also is there anything in there that says this is for personal beliefs (i.e. Jesus a personal savior not to be forced on another)?

Not quite sure what you are asking?

But muslims do not believe in "original sin".....so we have no need for a personal savior. .....

 

[dani67]

And (forbidden to you) are married women, except those whom your right hand owns. Such Allah has written for you. Lawful to you beyond all that, is that you can seek using your wealth in marriage and not fornication. So whatever you have enjoyed from them give them their obligated wage. And there is no fault in you in what ever you mutually agree after the obligation. Allah is the Knower, the Wise. (24)

 

[Tresha91203]

I'm actually curious about modesty. I consider myself to be a modest dresser: skirts/dresses below the knee (occasionally at the knee), no cleavage, nothing too tight, etc. By Western standards, that's modest and age appropriate (47). I live in a very hot, humid climate, though, so I will go sleeveless and with open toed shoes/sandals with painted toenails. I've never covered my hair. It is generally pulled back in a ponytail.

Where would I fall on the modesty scale for a Muslim in the West, not necessarily culturally, but religiously? I've seen Muslim women in westernish clothes with a pretty scarf mostly covering their hair, but I don't know if they were religious or not.

Honestly, something on my head in this sweltering heat would be brutal (1st world problems, right?). I dont know if i could do it. I rarely let my own hair fall around my neck, much less an additional layer. I would have to shave my head. If one's head is shaved, does it need to be covered?

 

[irosie91]

Is there anywhere in the Koran that suggest to follow these laws/rules about maiming the physical body of an offender spiritually verses applying them carnally? Also is there anything in there that says this is for personal beliefs (i.e. Jesus a personal savior not to be forced on another)?

Not quite sure what you are asking?

But muslims do not believe in "original sin".....so we have no need for a personal savior. .....

I do not see a connection between any doctrine of "original
sin"------and the issue of "personal deity". I am not sure
how the term "personal savior" is being used but I am going
to assume that it refers to an INDIVIDUAL connection to the divine---whatever is the divine----whether a trinity or not.

 

[Sunni Man]

Why have we not seen a split to say American Islam? You have Catholics {American} and Roman Catholics {Europe}.

The vast majority of muslims and mosques in America are Sunni.

There are Shiite mosques in most major cities, but they are generally small.

I have seen a few Shia pray at our mosque before. But it's still kinda rare.

I have never been to a Shia mosque, nor do I ever expect to visit one. .....

 

[DarkFury]

Why have we not seen a split to say American Islam? You have Catholics {American} and Roman Catholics {Europe}.

The vast majority of muslims and mosques in America are Sunni.

There are Shiite mosques in most major cities, but they are generally small.

I have seen a few Shia pray at our mosque before. But it's still kinda rare.

I have never been to a Shia mosque, nor do I ever expect to visit one. .....

I lived and worked privately in Pakistan for nine months. I always got along with the Sunni but to be honest the Shia simply were not honest.

 

[irosie91]

Why have we not seen a split to say American Islam? You have Catholics {American} and Roman Catholics {Europe}.

The vast majority of muslims and mosques in America are Sunni.

There are Shiite mosques in most major cities, but they are generally small.

I have seen a few Shia pray at our mosque before. But it's still kinda rare.

I have never been to a Shia mosque, nor do I ever expect to visit one. .....

I lived and worked privately in Pakistan for nine months. I always got along with the Sunni but to be honest the Shia simply were not honest.

?? can you elaborate?

 

[DarkFury]

Why have we not seen a split to say American Islam? You have Catholics {American} and Roman Catholics {Europe}.

The vast majority of muslims and mosques in America are Sunni.

There are Shiite mosques in most major cities, but they are generally small.

I have seen a few Shia pray at our mosque before. But it's still kinda rare.

I have never been to a Shia mosque, nor do I ever expect to visit one. .....

I lived and worked privately in Pakistan for nine months. I always got along with the Sunni but to be honest the Shia simply were not honest.

?? can you elaborate?

I worked flight line for an airline. Shia workers were constantly fired for going through bags or boosting those mini bottles of booze.
Never lost a thing with a Sunni.

 

[RodISHI]

Is there anywhere in the Koran that suggest to follow these laws/rules about maiming the physical body of an offender spiritually verses applying them carnally? Also is there anything in there that says this is for personal beliefs (i.e. Jesus a personal savior not to be forced on another)?

Not quite sure what you are asking?

But muslims do not believe in "original sin".....so we have no need for a personal savior. .....

Law and consequences, if a person sins lets say adultery in this case. To me that is a sin that affects the two parties involved. For a Christian if it is adultery against God that is where punishment lies.

The sin and judgement thereof remains with the spirit of God within (breath of life that created the living soul). For a more mature Christian they know that the stoning is a spiritual stoning and the person is being given over to the sin via self subjection. i.e. a human acts like a heathen gets hooked on watching porn, crack, whatever and has turned their back on the spirit of God within that piece of conscience within that tells the human this is wrong. The human knows the conduct is unbecoming but does the act anyhow so spiritually the human is given over to that corrupt spirit and cannot control themselves.

If one sins against the partner in marriage for the flesh/carnal that goes to a case at law in courts or again remains between the parties involved (the couple).

Do you have this explanation of self subjection verses other human trying to enforce a law through violent means anywhere?

 

[Sunni Man]

What are the main differences between Shia, Sunni, Sufi, Ahmadiyya?

The Sunni / Shiite divide is mainly political.....and to a minor degree theological.

There is no central authority in Sunni Islam. Each mosque is independent and the Imam have no legal authority over the members.

Whereas, Shia Islam is based on heredity and hierarchy. The leader must be a direct descendent of Mumammad and he is like the Pope.

Sufi's are kinda like monks, but their theology runs from orthodox Islamic to religious crazyness.....depending what sect they belong to.

Ahmadiyya is a straight up cult and shunned by both Sunni and Shia. .....

 

[RodISHI]

And (forbidden to you) are married women, except those whom your right hand owns. Such Allah has written for you. Lawful to you beyond all that, is that you can seek using your wealth in marriage and not fornication. So whatever you have enjoyed from them give them their obligated wage. And there is no fault in you in what ever you mutually agree after the obligation. Allah is the Knower, the Wise. (24)

Dani can you give me the origins you use for the word 'wife' and 'woman'.

 

[dani67]

And (forbidden to you) are married women, except those whom your right hand owns. Such Allah has written for you. Lawful to you beyond all that, is that you can seek using your wealth in marriage and not fornication. So whatever you have enjoyed from them give them their obligated wage. And there is no fault in you in what ever you mutually agree after the obligation. Allah is the Knower, the Wise. (24)

Dani can you give me the origins you use for the word 'wife' and 'woman'.

Quran Chapter An-Nisa(4), VerseNo. (24)

 

[DarkFury]

Okay, now about 5% of the Sunni practice Wahhabism which tends to be more radical right?

 

[irosie91]

Why have we not seen a split to say American Islam? You have Catholics {American} and Roman Catholics {Europe}.

The vast majority of muslims and mosques in America are Sunni.

There are Shiite mosques in most major cities, but they are generally small.

I have seen a few Shia pray at our mosque before. But it's still kinda rare.

I have never been to a Shia mosque, nor do I ever expect to visit one. .....

I lived and worked privately in Pakistan for nine months. I always got along with the Sunni but to be honest the Shia simply were not honest.

oh-----are you sure that the SHIA were really DOING it and the SUNNIS were not? Accusing "the other" is a very prevalent
habit in Islamic societies. When there are no hindus, Christians, Jews or Bahai around to accuse-------the sunni minority coul ----very well----do go the shia route. ----booze
indiscretion is a really IMPORTANT way of demonizing a person. Booze plays a remarkably important role in muslim history