Should The FBI Be Dismantled?

[ThisIsMe]

Why didn’t the FBI raid Biden’s house?

Because cooperated and returned the docs in question

Why did they raid Trump’s house? Because he did NOT cooperate and fought the return of those docs for a year and a half

No, they didn't raid bidend house because...democrat.

The point is, biden should have been raided 30 years ago, but nobody seemed interested in classified material until trump came along.

Trump WAS working with nara, but as a former president, he felt he had a right to them because he has sole power to declassify unilaterally. Biden had zero deassification power, except for things he himself classified.

You all are so focused on trumps issues and think biden "did the right thing" ignoring the fact that he did the wrong thing for 30 years. But you don't care about that.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Biden followed the law, while Trump did not.

Good grief. Biden didn't follow the law, he grossly broke the law by having the material in the first place AND by keeping it for 30 years.

 

[kyzr]

They have been in need of Defunding since the Richard Jewell Fiasco …

Waco, Ruby Ridge, Operation Crossfire-Hurricane, I'm still thinking (Crooks) and (Routh) are being covered up...

 

[rightwinger]

You keep skipping over the fact that he had them, without the legal right to do so, most likely broke the law by taking them in the fist place, and and was never asked for them in 30 years.

Biden didn't "give them up", he got panicked when nara and the FBI started poking around trump. If it hadn't been for that, i believe those documents would still be in bidens garage.

Yup, he had them packed away in boxes he hadn’t looked at.
When he realized classified info was in the boxes, he did the right thing and reported them.

The convicted felon denied he had any classified documents and ordered them moved in an attempt to hide them

 

[ThisIsMe]

Yup, he had them packed away in boxes he hadn’t looked at.
When he realized classified info was in the boxes, he did the right thing and reported them.

The convicted felon denied he had any classified documents and ordered them moved in an attempt to hide them

You think he had them and didn't know? He just, out of the blue, realized he had classified information? How did he know to look for them when they started poking around in trumps documents? The answer? He knew he had them, he knew all along. He had them shipped to the Penn-biden center, to his home, and to other places.

 

[Lesh]

No, they didn't raid bidend house because...democrat.

The point is, biden should have been raided 30 years ago, but nobody seemed interested in classified material until trump came along.

Trump WAS working with nara, but as a former president, he felt he had a right to them because he has sole power to declassify unilaterally. Biden had zero deassification power, except for things he himself classified.

You all are so focused on trumps issues and think biden "did the right thing" ignoring the fact that he did the wrong thing for 30 years. But you don't care about that.

No one knew there were classified docs at Biden’s house through that time. Not even Biden.

Your claim of political bias is destroyed by the fact thatPence’s house was not raided.

As far as Trump , he was told repeatedly that he had no no right to have those docs in his home and still he fought their return at every step up to and including having lawyers LIE about having returned them all.

You’re full of shit and you know it

 

[Lesh]

Waco, Ruby Ridge, Operation Crossfire-Hurricane, I'm still thinking (Crooks) and (Routh) are being covered up...

And Bigfoot is real and so is Jade Helm

 

[rightwinger]

You think he had them and didn't know? He just, out of the blue, realized he had classified information? How did he know to look for them when they started poking around in trumps documents? The answer? He knew he had them, he knew all along. He had them shipped to the Penn-biden center, to his home, and to other places.

Biden had boxes of stuff from when he left as VP
Boxes that he never looked at.

Trump had boxes of stuff that he knew contained classified documents and tried to hide them

 

[Lesh]

Biden had boxes of stuff from when he left as VP
Boxes that he never looked at.

Trump had boxes of stuff that he knew contained classified documents and tried to hide them

In fact he showed some of it off to impress people and said “I probably shouldn’t be showing you this”

 

[Jarlaxle]

Jarlaxle's explanations are allegations not proven evidence.

Now you're just openly lying.

 

[ThisIsMe]

No one knew there were classified docs at Biden’s house through that time. Not even Biden.

Your claim of political bias is destroyed by the fact thatPence’s house was not raided.

As far as Trump , he was told repeatedly that he had no no right to have those docs in his home and still he fought their return at every step up to and including having lawyers LIE about having returned them all.

You’re full of shit and you know it

If biden didn't know he had them, then how come, when trump got in trouble, suddenly biden was found to have them? If he didn't know he had them, then he wouldn't have known to come forward with them.

Pence wasn't raided because...not trump. Remember, people didn't care about pence, they just hated trump. Again, 30 years and not a peep from nara or anyone else about bidens records. Then suddenly trump loses the election and nara is on his butt within a few weeks.

Also, how is it that nobody knew biden had them? Are you suggesting that our security on this type of stuff is so bad that it slipped through the cracks?

You don't get to view classified material without notifying certain people, and even then, as a senator, it's viewed in the scif, and not allowed to be removed....yet biden did......

I'm not full of shit, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy here that your hatred of trump blinds you from seeing that biden broke the law too, and you don't care. It was always about "get trump".

the investigation even said that biden was found to have disclosed classified material and you all don't even care about it. The hur report siad biden was guilty of retention of classified material, which is what 31 of the 37 counts against trump were, but biden didnt face a trial because hur said biden was "an old man with a poor memory", yet trump was charged and was going to have to go to trial over it.

That's wrong.

 

[OKTexas]

Nope, but the new building they have planned should be canceled. Also the Hoover Building and a ton of field offices need a highly effective high colonic to flush all the shit out of them. As Patel said, there is no reason to have 700 sworn agents sitting on their asses in the Hoover Building, they can hire GS 5s to push paper.

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Damn I misspoke, that would be 7000 sworn agents sitting on their asses in the Hoover building not 700.

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[OKTexas]

The FBI doesn't need to be torn down. What the incoming administration and Kash Patel need to do is remove all those FBI senior personnel who perpetuated the lawfare against the conservative/republican politicians and general public and replace at least some of them with the whistleblowers who saw what was happening and just vacate some others positions, until more impartial agents can fill in the gaps.

The systems that allowed such a corrupted culture to flourish need to be dismantled as well. Otherwise the problems will just materialize again.

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[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Good grief. Biden didn't follow the law, he grossly broke the law by having the material in the first place AND by keeping it for 30 years.

He followed the law and getting it back is what you are failing to duck.

And Trump did not follow the law at all.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Now you're just openly lying.

Your allegations are not facts, and neither are your lies.

 

[OKTexas]

Biden followed the law, while Trump did not.

Well that's just an outright lie. xiden never had the authority to possess classified documents as a senator, he stole them, that's not following the law.

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[Lesh]

Well that's just an outright lie. xiden never had the authority to possess classified documents as a senator, he stole them, that's not following the law.

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Biden (actually his lawyers) notified NARA that there were docs as soon as they were discovered and then made arrangements to have them returned.

The complete opposite of what occurred with Trump

 

[OKTexas]

Biden (actually his lawyers) notified NARA that there were docs as soon as they were discovered and then made arrangements to have them returned.

The complete opposite of what occurred with Trump

Deflection noted, now address xiden stealing classified documents as a senator.

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[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Well that's just an outright lie. xiden never had the authority to possess classified documents as a senator, he stole them, that's not following the law.

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Biden returned the docs without a fluff, while Trump lied, denied, and cried, before he was MADE to give them up. Answer the right question, sir, not make silly stuff up as an excuse for (in Cartman's voice) "the little orange bitch.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Your allegations are not facts, and neither are your lies.

You're lying again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/convicted-defendants-left-uninformed-of-forensic-flaws-found-by-justice-dept/2012/04/16/gIQAWTcgMT_story.html

FBI Lab Flaws Traced To 3,000 Cases

Justice Dept. Lets Prosecutors Decide Whether To Tell Defendants

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CSI Is a Lie: Forensic Investigations Are Overdue for Reform

Unless crime labs become independent of police and prosecutors, more scandals seem inevitable.

www.theatlantic.com

Tainting Evidence

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The FBI crime lab scandal is not an "allegation." Claiming so is another LIE. Thousands of tests were junk science, were done improperly, or results were outright made up. It's not new. The one bringing attention to this was fired, harassed, and threatened with prosecution. (All of which is, of course, illegal.)

The FBI framing innocent men for Ed Deegan's murder is not an "allegation." The contrary: it is a FACT, established as such by a Federal judge-along with a $102 million civil judgment against the US government.

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