Is the Chirren Learning

Yeah that would be a big fat no. Can we admit public schools need some fixing? Public schools are turning out the ignoramus's needed to destroy the country.

Are the schools perfect, or in some ways even good? No, not all.

HOWEVER

If you send your child to Kindergarten not knowing their first and last name; how to put on a coat; how to share and NOT POTTY TRAINED, who is to blame?
 
Based on what..... Public ed is public ed, don't think MN is an outlier unless you have data that says otherwise

Are you kidding?

Are you serious.

"Public ed is public ed"? You think the school in Anytown, Kansas is just the same as schools in Brooklyn, NY?
 
Are the schools perfect, or in some ways even good? No, not all.

HOWEVER

If you send your child to Kindergarten not knowing their first and last name; how to put on a coat; how to share and NOT POTTY TRAINED, who is to blame?
It’s a double-edged sword. The parents and the schools have to work together. If either side fails, the child suffers. When both sides fail, as we’re seeing now, it’s disastrous for everyone.
 
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If you send your child to Kindergarten not knowing their first and last name; how to put on a coat; how to share and NOT POTTY TRAINED, who is to blame?
You said you were finally quitting. You can stop bitching now.
 
Oops is right! Your own link proved you wrong! How can you be that stupid? Did you attend school in Minnesota?

Where was Minnesota on that list of the top 10 states? That alone should tell you they are not typical.
That link contains this;

"The resulting analysis paints an intriguing picture of the state of American education. In top-ranked Massachusetts, over 40% of fourth graders demonstrated proficiency in math and reading, a level they largely maintained through eighth grade. The state’s students also nabbed the nation’s highest ACT and MCAT scores on average."

The "over 40%" is about 42% and that is the highest it appears among the 50 states. And the article shows the percentages decline further by grade 8. It would seem the product of USA education is not that great if nearly 60%+ don't achieve grade proficiency by grade 8 or later.

I'm hoping we aren't seeing what is considered "grade proficiency" having been decreased in recent years to inflate the "success" numbers for our schools.

One would hope we were seeing something more like 80-90%+ achieving grade proficiency all through K-12.
 
Probably a good thing.
Shows many are resistant to propaganda and indoctrination.

The first two paragraphs of the link;

Teens have a shaky understanding of the causes of climate change and the strong scientific consensus around the fact that human activity is driving up global temperatures, according to a report.

A little more than half of teenagers correctly identified in a national survey that emissions from human activity is the biggest contributor to climate change, and less than half knew that nearly all climate scientists agree on that point.
 
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Teens have a shaky understanding of the causes of climate change and the strong scientific consensus around the fact that human activity is driving up global temperatures, according to a report.

A little more than half of teenagers correctly identified in a national survey that emissions from human activity is the biggest contributor to climate change, and less than half knew that nearly all climate scientists agree on that point.
There's strong evidence that teenagers are learning to think for themselves. You're welcome.
 
That link contains this;

"The resulting analysis paints an intriguing picture of the state of American education. In top-ranked Massachusetts, over 40% of fourth graders demonstrated proficiency in math and reading, a level they largely maintained through eighth grade. The state’s students also nabbed the nation’s highest ACT and MCAT scores on average."

The "over 40%" is about 42% and that is the highest it appears among the 50 states. And the article shows the percentages decline further by grade 8. It would seem the product of USA education is not that great if nearly 60%+ don't achieve grade proficiency by grade 8 or later.

I'm hoping we aren't seeing what is considered "grade proficiency" having been decreased in recent years to inflate the "success" numbers for our schools.

One would hope we were seeing something more like 80-90%+ achieving grade proficiency all through K-12.
So, what are you going to do about it?

I keep repeating that unless society changes and we improve the quality of the students. You simply cannot make chicken salad out of chicken shit.
 
Your title and the comments you make need to be addressed to the Minnesota schools. Most public schools are doing just fine. Minnesota has a problem, but then look at their governor, senators, and congressional reps and you will see why.
Clinton and Obama seeded over 100k Muslim Somalians in Minnesota, and they are the most inbred out of them all.
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Probably a good thing.
Shows many are resistant to propaganda and indoctrination.

The first two paragraphs of the link;

Teens have a shaky understanding of the causes of climate change and the strong scientific consensus around the fact that human activity is driving up global temperatures, according to a report.

A little more than half of teenagers correctly identified in a national survey that emissions from human activity is the biggest contributor to climate change, and less than half knew that nearly all climate scientists agree on that point.
That's that Critical Pedagogy mind-mushing teaching. Not a staple of American education historically.
 
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Many years ago there was something about how several other countries kids were so far ahead of US in education levels that put us on a fast track to catch up or exceed them.......and that's where common core math came in, along with pushing more and more information at the kids, with little or no time given to actually learn it.
I went to school in the 1940's and 1950's and teachers didn't care then if you 'learned' it or not. If you were failing they just let you fail. If you were a bright student, they doted on you. Same with gym teachers. The kids that were good at sports got all the attention, the rest of us were ignored.
 

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