Is It Time To Finally Put Away The Confederate Flag Once and For All?

[Meathead]

By this logic all threads are just a series of grievances.

Yes?

Whinny in this case, and no.

 

[MarcATL]

I'm pretty sure we have plenty of more important issues to deal with at the moment.
Come back when we aren't dealing with a treasonist demented president.

Really? Like more unnecessary adventures abroad brought to you by the Military Industrial Complex?

That's more important than domestic issues?

Interesting...

 

[MarcATL]

Than why'd ya bring it up?

As an observation.

 

[MarcATL]

Because I do, BLM is a racist corrupt organization.

Please expound. Show me how.

 

[DukeU]

". . . We may never completely agree on whether the Confederate flag is a symbol of racism or pride, and whether the Civil War was fought primarily over slavery or state’s rights. But South Carolinians should turn their focus to what we do agree on: that we are citizens of the greatest country in the world and the most patriotic state in the nation. As such, just two banners should fly over our statehouse grounds: the South Carolina flag and the American flag.. . . "

Many different opinions. I would wager though that most people who see the flag as racist are not from the south.

 

[MarcATL]

Try and get a white guy to walk through the ghetto with an all lives matter sign and see what happens.
And yes there are videos.

The safest place for a white American is in the ghetto.

Any time of the day or night.

 

[Asclepias]

Why are some Americans still brandishing that loser traitor flag?

Isn't it time to put away for good now?

It should be seen and flown only in a museum.

What say you?

Its long past time to put away the traitor flag. I agree it should be in a museum where you can file by and shake your head in disgust at what it symbolizes.

 

[MarcATL]

Many different opinions. I would wager though that most people who see the flag as racist are not from the south.

Is that flag only pertinent to Southern Americans?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

As an observation.

It's been my observation that you constantly cry about racism that doesn't exist.

 

[Asclepias]

But this one should fly, huh, Mark.

Absolutely. Its a protest against rouge LEOs.

 

[Meister]

Please expound. Show me how.

I'm not going to play your game, try not to be so obtuse, Marc.
Do YOU want preferential treatment, or do you want equal treatment?

 

[MisterBeale]

IMO. . . This issue gets more and more important as the elites get closer and closer to subverting the national governments to global powers, global institutions, and global corporations.

If we did not learn the lessons of state sovereignty from the civil war, and why folks did not want to cede their power back then, we have learned nothing of the American spirit.

Here is an article from an anti-federalist sympathy leaning source, and a video from a more, federalist biased person. . . folks should understand why people want government power closer to home, and why some feel it is dangerous to cede government power to far off elite controlled bureaucracies.

History just may repeat itself if the small folks haven't learned their lessons.

. . and thus, the symbol of anti-federalism, anti-globalism, confederacy. . . or, LOCAL-ISM, is more important than ever.

Of course the elites would wish to turn brother against brother and make it all about hatred. That is a much easier story than the reality. It is true, however, that localism does tend to lend itself to the vice of discrimination, prejudice, and IN-GROUP bias and tribalism more than elites dictating for the whole world what they believe is best.


". . . On the other end of the political spectrum, many ardent Federalists were prepared to renege on their solemn promises to amend the Constitution once the new national government began operations in 1789. However, the politically astute Madison had come to believe that the popular demand for a bill of rights should be placated. There also is some evidence that Madison had altered his views on the need for a federal bill of rights. Regardless of what served as the principal motivation for his change of heart, Madison carefully culled through the more than 200 state proposals. Diehard Anti‐Federalists and even Jefferson felt that Madison’s amendments were not radical enough. Nonetheless, Madison successfully steered the Bill of Rights through Congress. Although these widely publicized amendments would not be ratified for several years, they satisfied many opponents of the new government. North Carolina, for instance, finally joined the Union in November 1789.

Most of the Amendments comprising the Bill of Rights restricted the national government’s direct authority over its citizens. Only one section dealt with the relationship between the state and central governments; the 10th Amendment “reserved” to the states or the people all powers not “delegated to the United States by the Constitution.” Nothing better illustrates that, whereas the Anti‐Federalists had lost on the ratification issue, they had won on the question of how the Constitution would operate. The Constitution had not established a consolidated national system of government as most Federalists had at first intended, but a truly federal system, which is what the Anti‐Federalists had wanted. In simpler terms, the Federalists got their Constitution, but the Anti‐Federalists determined how it would be interpreted.. . . "

https://www.libertarianism.org/topics/federalists-versus-anti-federalists

The most famous Anti-Federalist/Anti-Globalist/Confederacy supporter

And of course, what the Federalist/Government schools have always taught us as to why the elites in control of the whole system need to have centralized authority.

 

[Flash]

Why are some Americans still brandishing that loser traitor flag?

Isn't it time to put away for good now?

It should be seen and flown only in a museum.

What say you?

Just go fuck yourself Taliban

If you don't want to fly the Stars and Bars then don't. For us Americans that love the flag then you can just kiss our Cracker asses.

 

[DukeU]

Its long past time to put away the traitor flag. I agree it should be in a museum where you can file by and shake your head in disgust at what it symbolizes.

It symbolizes the South, period.

 

[Asclepias]

I'm not going to play your game, try not to be so obtuse, Marc.
Do YOU want preferential treatment, or do you want equal treatment?

You cant seem to answer the question so you call it game?

 

[Asclepias]

It symbolizes the South, period.

It symbolizes a failed, traitorous attempt to secede from the union based on whining about slavery.

 

[Meister]

Absolutely. Its a protest against rouge LEOs.

It is long past that, dude. Read the papers.

 

[MarcATL]

I'm not going to play your game, try not to be so obtuse, Marc.
Do YOU want preferential treatment, or do you want equal treatment?

The last thing I am, is obtuse.

But you already know this.

Equity is all black Americans have been asking for since they were brought to this country.

It's the preferential treatment that they're working to put a stop to.

 

[Asclepias]

It is long past that, dude. Read the papers.

I dont need to read the papers. I know what its about.

 

[DukeU]

Is that flag only pertinent to Southern Americans?

You know someone who flies it that's not from the South or had family who fought for the South?