Is It Right That American Citizens Should Have To Stand Over 5 or 6 Hours In Line Just To Vote?

[Ray From Cleveland]

You just noted that there were. Why should a company get a write off for taking jobs to other countries?

No company is going to move out of the country to take advantage of the minuscule moving tax break. That's ridiculous.

 

[pknopp]

You just noted that there were. Why should a company get a write off for taking jobs to other countries?

No company is going to move out of the country to take advantage of the minuscule moving tax break. That's ridiculous.

That wasnt what I asked. Why is it that so few will actually address what is asked?

Why should a company get any tax breaks when taking jobs to another country?

 

[Redfish]

Or should something be done about that so that it's made as quick, easy and efficient as possible?

Give your reasons for your answer.

Red herring question, since most states offer early voting so no one waits that long.

However under no circumstances should we allow a system that is ripe for corruption like mail in voting.

Then shouldn't the president lead the way and vote in person?

I thought he did vote in person last time. And Melania voted for Hillary

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Do as I say, not as I do.

Trump, While Attacking Mail Voting, Casts Mail Ballot Again

an absentee ballot is not the same as mass mail voting. Do some research, you might not look quite so stupid.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That wasnt what I asked. Why is it that so few will actually address what is asked?

Why should a company get any tax breaks when taking jobs to another country?

Because moving costs are a business expense. If you take it away from people moving out of the country, then you have to take it away from people moving within the country. And even if you could do that, it's not going to stop one company who's intention is to leave the US.

 

[pknopp]

Or should something be done about that so that it's made as quick, easy and efficient as possible?

Give your reasons for your answer.

Red herring question, since most states offer early voting so no one waits that long.

However under no circumstances should we allow a system that is ripe for corruption like mail in voting.

Then shouldn't the president lead the way and vote in person?

I thought he did vote in person last time. And Melania voted for Hillary

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Do as I say, not as I do.

Trump, While Attacking Mail Voting, Casts Mail Ballot Again

an absentee ballot is not the same as mass mail voting. Do some research, you might not look quite so stupid.

The complaint was "mail in voting. Absentee voting is mail in voting.

 

[pknopp]

That wasnt what I asked. Why is it that so few will actually address what is asked?

Why should a company get any tax breaks when taking jobs to another country?

Because moving costs are a business expense. If you take it away from people moving out of the country, then you have to take it away from people moving within the country. And even if you could do that, it's not going to stop one company who's intention is to leave the US.

No you don't have to remove it from all. It might not stop them but they shouldn't get a tax deduction.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No you don't have to remove it from all. It might not stop them but they shouldn't get a tax deduction.

If removing that tiny write-off is not going to solve anything, why would you care?

 

[Flash]

Or should something be done about that so that it's made as quick, easy and efficient as possible?

Give your reasons for your answer.

Red herring question, since most states offer early voting so no one waits that long.

However under no circumstances should we allow a system that is ripe for corruption like mail in voting.

Then shouldn't the president lead the way and vote in person?

I thought he did vote in person last time. And Melania voted for Hillary

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Do as I say, not as I do.

Trump, While Attacking Mail Voting, Casts Mail Ballot Again

an absentee ballot is not the same as mass mail voting. Do some research, you might not look quite so stupid.

The complaint was "mail in voting. Absentee voting is mail in voting.

You are confused Moon Bat. Uneducated low information Libtards are always confused about things like this.

Absentee ballots are not the same as mass mail in ballots.

You fucking asshole peices of Libtard shit are hell bent on stealing the election and you will use mass mail in ballots to corrupt the will of the people. That is how bad you want to turn this country into a socialist shithole.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You are confused Moon Bat. Uneducated low information Libtards are always confused about things like this.

Absentee ballots are not the same as mass mail in ballots.

You fucking asshole peices of Libtard shit are hell bent on stealing the election and you will use mass mail in ballots to corrupt the will of the people. That is how bad you want to turn this country into a socialist shithole.

Their real goal with all this mail in nonsense is they know the uninterested voters are politically ignorant voters. Politically ignorant voters usually vote Democrat. So get all those politically ignorant voters to vote by making it as easy as microwaving a hotdog. If those people had to put any effort into voting, they would do like they do every election and just stay home.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You mean democrats?

Crackers.

Nevertheless, you mean democrats

 

[Flash]

You are confused Moon Bat. Uneducated low information Libtards are always confused about things like this.

Absentee ballots are not the same as mass mail in ballots.

You fucking asshole peices of Libtard shit are hell bent on stealing the election and you will use mass mail in ballots to corrupt the will of the people. That is how bad you want to turn this country into a socialist shithole.

Their real goal with all this mail in nonsense is they know the uninterested voters are politically ignorant voters. Politically ignorant voters usually vote Democrat. So get all those politically ignorant voters to vote by making it as easy as microwaving a hotdog. If those people had to put any effort into voting, they would do like they do every election and just stay home.

The main voting block of the filthy Democrat Party are the inner city welfare ghetto assholes. Totally uneducated and unmotivated. However, they were motivated for racist reasons to get out and vote for that Obama shithead and that is why Obama won. Well that and the fact only RINOs ran against him.

The Democrats know that there is no motivation to vote for Biden. There are only so many dipshits suffering from TDS. They are trying to replace motivation with corruption. Mass mail in ballots is a great way to corrupt the system and they know it.

 

[Nostra]

The problem is that we have too many voters who use the criteria to vote representatives into office that they used when they voted for their favorite American Idol contestant. Who could be voting against Trump based on his record? Who could be voting for Biden for his, especially now that scandalous emails from his son came up?

No one. In fact, their records rarely come up even during the debates. Almost the entire campaign for Biden with the DNC has been a personal attack against Trump! I remember years ago working with a very liberal person and one night our having a (friendly) argument about whether integrity mattered in a president. I think we were talking about Clinton. Her position was that Bill's integrity DID NOT matter so long as he did his job and did it well, what difference his personal life! Now last night, what did the media want to know about? Integrity. False integrity. Donald, will you disavow white supremacism? Donald, where are your tax returns? Donald, did you really pay $750? Very little about his actual policies much less accomplishments.

Biden ads make a point of dwelling on suggestive imagery that Trump is highly driven in his Covid policy based on EGO, ATTENTION, and stock markets for the rich. Rally's are for attention. They very much play how Trump is a callous, insensitive brute while making out Biden as a caring, loving, forgiving, inclusive man. Nothing could be farther from the truth, in fact, quite the opposite.

So now we're going to have millions of voters getting ballots sent to their homes, without having to lift a finger, voting on a US President based on how nice of a guy they are instead of having the understanding that Trump did three times as much as President in four years than Joe did as Senator/ VP in 47 years.

Quite so. I've seen some libs argue they should be able to vote on line! What the unsolicited mail in voting does is put a ballot in every person's hands whether they follow or have any interest at all, so that many people with no desire or intention to vote will now vote. Many will say that since all they have to do is check a box and stick it back in the mail, they might as well, which means that you will have many low information people who normally don't vote, voting for the hell of it, because it is right under their nose.

The Democrat strategists know that plays into their hand. Through TV, newspapers and other media, they constantly paint Trump as a rogue and a failure, meanwhile making Biden out as the iconic family man hero. Low information people go by superficial impressions, will naturally know nothing of Trump's accomplishments because these media suppress it, and will likely go by nothing more than the caricatures that THEY and the media paint. This leaves the vote nothing more than in the hands of who spends the most money to character-assassinate the other with lies.

Voting for leaders should not be based on a personality contest.

Quite the opposite. History shows that most great leaders who were true change-agents of history in difficult and pivotal times were not cardboard cutouts of handsome men with warm personalities, they were anything but that. They were bold, fearless, daring, high-risk, cunning and ambitious. Kill or be killed. Survivors. Fighters. Winners. Not the sort of person that could be played up as a commodity on color TV. In fact, through most of history, there WAS no color TV, no media like today, so all folks really HAD to go by WAS their real accomplishments!!!

That's why my idea (and yours) about taking a very simple test should apply. Yes, it would require a constitutional amendment, however while no chance at passing, such a vote would expose which party is fearful of having intelligent or politically ignorant voters. You, I and many others both know which party that would be.

Well, obviously, it is the party of the smart, educated Democrats who would oppose it because they know so many of their base are not so smart or educated, otherwise, their media fakery wouldn't buy them as voters in the first place!

The RIGHT TO VOTE means that the government shall make available to every person the ability to cast their vote. It says nothing about it being easy, simple or for the uninformed. An uninformed vote pollutes the balloting as noise because it is arbitrary, random, meaningless. The uninformed low-information voter casts their vote based on which name they like more, who appeals to them in looks more, impressions, sound bites; a guess, a whim. In effect, a roll of the dice and as such, in effect-- -- noise. An uninformed voter pollutes the balloting with noise and is less a measure of the will of the populous who care, are affected and notice, and more a measure of the mere effectiveness of political ADVERTISING to influence and sway shallow opinion.

I will have a lot more to say about this later in a thread of mine called A Tale of Two Debates, when I have time to write it.

Republicans still think this Hunter Biden story has legs. LOL. I heard fox news' spin on this story. Basically, who cares if the story isn't true. It's not fair that twitter took trump's lies down.

Trump can't spread his misinformation. Waaah. You birthers crack me up. You want free speech to mean free to spread your lies unchecked.

Quid Pro Joe sold the office of VP so he and his crackhead son could take millions from the Chicoms and Russia.

You have no problem with that, Sillyboob.

Not if you don't have a problem with the 1000 shady things Trump has done while in office. The hypocrisy is mind blowing. Biden could murder someone on 5th ave and not lose one supporter.

Plus it doesn't matter we all already voted. Too late to change our votes.

List those "shady things", Sillyboob.

Google them and stop telling others to cater to your idiocy and laziness.

He made a claim, Asswipe. It's on him to back it up. STFU and butt out.

A no. The fact you even have to ask. He has broken several laws if you look them up you’ll see them. Small stuff and the senate won’t do anything about it so he goes unchecked. Then there are all the rules he breaks. Not laws, rules.

There are just too many to list. Go back to his inappropriate conversation with comey where he asked if he was loyal.

Trump is shady. Look up the word in the dictionary there’s a picture of trump.

"Too many to list"?

Explains why you can't bring a single one, Sillyboob.

I thought I did. He asked comey if he was loyal. That’s shady even paul Ryan house leader admitted it. His excuse was trump was new and didn’t know better.

This is just one of hundreds of shady things trump has done.

How about the emoluments clause?

Too many of these shady things to remember even a percentage of them. It was daily. So many we are numb to it. He’s got to go

So, even though there are “too many to list”, the best you can come up with is “He asked Comey if he was loyal”????????

I think you are done here, Hack.

I told you. A million little shady things he's done

There's an entire wiki pages dedicated to it all

Category:Trump administration controversies - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Don't waste my time. I know nothing will get you to vote Biden so bugger off. LOL

Perhaps you can isolate an post here the "several laws" you claim Trump has broken.

 

[Unkotare]

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Trump's political style is to pit Americans against each other. ......

That's all you ever do, you hypocritical son of a bitch.

 

[justinacolmena]

They're molesting kids. The race is over for the DEMOCRATs.

 

[bendog]

Is Fla also up to several hours yet?

 

[sealybobo]

I believe in the Constitution and freedom too and I'm a liberal democrat.

Trump's political style is to pit Americans against each other. He's the most divisive. Are you kidding?

It's nobodies business how much you make? What about the IRS? You want to do away with taxes? Only have a sales tax? How come Republicans don't push for that? Oh yea, they have pushed for that. But it's not fair. And won't work. So you are for what won't work. Nice.

Affirmative Action was implemented because whites weren't hiring blacks. Had to be done. Still happening to this day. You'll deny it but you're a Republican so that's what Republicans do. Deny, distort, misinform, spin, twist. I love it how the whites who are in power because of racism say it's racist to try to do something about their racism. You poor white man.

You believe in the Constitution so much you're against Equal Rights protection with hate crime laws and affirmative action. Typical lib. How do Republicans divide people? It's the Democrats that do. Democrats divide us into groups. Then they decide which groups they like and which ones they hate, and proceed to bring them to battle: Rich vs poor, criminal vs police, white vs black, employee vs employer, religious vs non-religious, the list goes on and on. The groups they hate are referred to as deplorable's.

Given the fact that almost half the people in our country pay no income tax at all, I strongly support a consumption tax targeted at our deficit and debt. Let's say 5 cents on the dollar. When the politicians want to spend more, increase that to 6 cents on the dollar, 8 cents, 10 cents, whatever. We can never bring spending under control when such a large segment of our population never has to worry about paying it. If you rob Peter to pay Paul, the Paul's of your society generally have no objection. The leftist concept is to increase taxes on the people who pay most of them already.

Think about it this way. You’re an average guy and so am I. But the rich have us divided. How’s that? And don’t pretend your party isn’t the favorite party of the rich and powerful. Walstreet loves their trump tax breaks. They want him. He’s better for their business.

Join the labor party. The gop is not good for rich and middle class. You’re fooling yourself. Just look at the wealth gap widening.

 

[sealybobo]

I think the real question is "is it right to let stupid worthless welfare queens, racist looting Blacks and Illeglas to vote".

Are they Americans? Then they have a say and should get to vote. Should only rich people vote? Why not? Or how about only land owners. If you have a mortgage then you are a debt queen and should have to own your home before you are allowed to vote. Or own a piece of property.

I think the poor people should be able to vote before rich people. And poor people certainly shouldn't be voting for the same party that the rich people vote for.

Do you know how many dumb poor people voted for Trump? Too many. He conned them too with his build the wall bullshit. Racist poor whites.

You are confused Moon Bat.

Our Founding Fathers had it right. Only White land owning men should have the right to vote.

When we let this welfare assholes vote we get shitheads like Obama, Crooked Hillary and this Biden creep. Shame!

The Democrat voting core in the US are these dumbass uneducated ghetto welfare queens in the Democrat controlled big city shitholes. Only the uneducated and low information assholes looking for free stuff vote for Democrats.

Democrats are the scum of America. We all know that.

Clinton was Great and Obama was great. Got us out of the great recession Bush created and handed Trump a great economy.

The only reason Trump had slightly better numbers was the tax breaks he passed but the slight increase wasn't worth it. He had 2.3% growth in 2019. That's not great. That's not even good according to candidate Trump in 2015 so why is it great now? You're being intellectually dishonest or Trump is lying to you and you believe the bullshit.

Oh spare us braindead, you libbers are so pathetic with your brainwashed fake information just go vote for Diaper Joe and leave when he loses.

You poor Americans got a little tax break. Let's call it $200 a month. And your tax breaks have probably already expired so you don't get shit anymore. Just for a couple years. Rich people got big tax breaks. Let's call it $500K.

The tax break and Trump's other policies are going to bankrupt social security and medicare. So Republicans are going to have to cut your social security and medicare 20%. Let's say the cut will be $400 a month for the rest of your life from 68 till you die. Let's say you live 10 years. Trump cost you $50,000 and his tax breaks only gave you $7500. Lets say $10,000. So Trump will cost you $40,000 down the road. You're so smart.

Your ilk is all the rich ones so stop acting like its us in the top 1%. The baloney you spread is all hogwash and the only bankrupting that will be done is if Diaper Joe gets his mitts on the country. I could give a spit about tax breaks but dont want them raised astronomically because Dems hate businesses, and don't want my job to go away under the Democrat punishment of free enterprise. Go whine to your dregs hiding in their basements.

That's impossible. The other day on Fox they were saying the stock market will crash if Biden wins. They said Wallstreet loves Trump. Of course with all the tax breaks he gives them why wouldn't they?

Clinton and Obama didn't raise taxes astronomically neither will Joe.

He will on businesses and jobs will be forced overseas again. Then Diaper will "create" jobs by taxing us to pay for them so the dregs can be paid for doing nothing, the perfect Democrat world.

It all worked during the Obama years and the Clinton years. Don't forget it was GW Bush who let all those companies move overseas. Hell, he even gave corporations who were moving overseas tax breaks. Almost as if he wanted them to move.

They did. The GOP and Corporations wanted to break the manufacturing unions so they went bankrupt, renigged on pensions, sent all those high paying jobs overseas and now you'll bring those jobs back but at a fraction of what they used to pay.

You are confused about this.

The filthy ass Democrats are globalist and have given away the store to foireign interest every chance they have. If it was up to them we wouldn't have a country with open borders and giving away our jobs and moeny to everybody and their little brown dog. Hell, even the international environmental agreements were foreign welfare.

Some Republicans are just as stupid but the Democrats are the ones that get the highest scores in selling out the country to foreigners.

Trump has been working hard to fix that. Liberals can't stand it. They wouod much rather be loading up airplanes with barrels of cash to give away.

Trump has not been working hard to fix that. He did all he could which wasn’t much then claimed victory.

 

[sealybobo]

It all worked during the Obama years and the Clinton years. Don't forget it was GW Bush who let all those companies move overseas. Hell, he even gave corporations who were moving overseas tax breaks. Almost as if he wanted them to move.

They did. The GOP and Corporations wanted to break the manufacturing unions so they went bankrupt, renigged on pensions, sent all those high paying jobs overseas and now you'll bring those jobs back but at a fraction of what they used to pay.

The only tax breaks companies get are moving cost write-offs. It doesn't matter if they move from Detroit to Tampa, or from Chicago to Brazil. There are no tax breaks for moving out of the country. It's a leftist lie that's been going around for decades.

So they did get tax breaks for moving overseas. Moving cost write offs. Got it. I didn’t know their name.

 

[Unkotare]

...And don’t pretend your party isn’t the favorite party of the rich and powerful. ....

Empty-headed drone stuck in replay mode ^^^^^^^

 

[WEATHER53]

The Better Question is,

Is it right that Governors Mandate Unconstitutional Orders upon a Free People, and force millions out of work, and deny their citizens any redress of grievances, and impose a defacto taxation without representation government system of tyranny for the sole purposes of trying to rig an election for their hand picked Globalist Puppet?

What unconstitutional orders? A pandemic is happening. Yes if bad citizens are putting good citizens at risk of dying the government can step in and legislate policies like wear a mask and no strip clubs.

Look, child of Hell. We know who you are, and we know the Evil that possesses you. We know that you live to lie 24-7, and we know that you long for The New 666 World Order, and pray to The Darkness for your Messiah AntiChrist to appear and rule over the entire world

There is no Pandemic. An Pandemic does not have a mortality rate or 1\10th of 1%. There is no just, moral, ethical, legal, or Constitutional cause or reason to shut down the entire world's economy over The Flu.

More people die from smoking cigarettes and from drugs and alcohol.

Take heart though, The Book of Revelation states that God removes His restraining hand and allows The Evil Left full control of The World, and The AntiChrist as their Messiah.

But that also means that Hell will be reigning on Earth, and your Evil Messiah's Kingdom will be cursed and destroyed within 7 years.

Then you, and all of your evil friends, and your false Messiah, and all of your policies like UN Agenda 2030, Depopulation, The Green New Deal will be destroyed.

Then the Judgment Day when The Earth is rid of you all once and for all.

So if you do find a way to cheat your way to The White House, Lie and Steal your way in to The Oval Office, I know that your demise and destruction is just that much closer, and that our redemption, those who love Jesus Christ, The Prince of Peace is so much closer to establishing His Kingdom of Peace and destroying your wicked rule of tyranny and deception.

Idiot! I could get it and die. I don't want to take the chance like Herman Cain did.

You can get many things and die, the flu is merely one of them....idiot.

Yea and it's going around bigly right now. Worse here than any other country.

Why are we doing so bad? Leadership

If the US had Canada’s Covid-19 death rate, 100,000 more Americans would likely be alive today

America really is worse on coronavirus than other developed countries — and Trump is a big reason.

www.vox.com

You wackos are brainwashed......US has a low mortality rate....2.6% to Canada's 4.9%...wait, the article doesn't say that? And they don't test to nearly the amount we do either. The US has a lower mortality rate than the global average you should do more research instead of allowing the wind to blow through your ears.

All in all 1 out of every 20 people get infected then out of that 1 in 20 anothe 1 out of 20 requires hospitalization
Approximately 2,000 people under the age of 60 who had no serious preexisting conditions have died from this
Like all effective Hoaxes it does have one sinister element to it but that “worst case” is wholly exaggerated to “most likely” and timid people who can’t do math nor stats freak out and demand everyone else be dragged down into fear with them.