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So again, we need to accept Trump's failures because they are less than Biden, right?You ******* hypocrite loser, let's see all of your posts calling Biden out for jeopardizing our 'safety' when he was sending billions to Ukraine so they could arm themselves and fight against Russia, who does have nukes.
You're a complete TDS idiot, you have no brain, you have no common sense, all you know is TDS, you're pathetic.
much more dangerous to let Russia succeed in taking another country by force.
So again, we need to accept Trump's failures because they are less than Biden, right?
Here is the Ayatollah's reply to Trump that came out 3 hours ago
Here is what Trump's chosen Intelligence Director said about Iran's nuclear bomb status
Tulsi said Iran not building nukes.
Here is what Trump said about her statement:
Here is the man that Trump's believed about Iran being close to a nuclear bomb:
here are my thoughts on this:
The bombing of Iran is a gamble and gambling when president is a very dangerous thing to do because if you lose the gamble, the consequences can be huge and that is not something a president should ever do when the odds are not overwhelming in your favor. To begin with, his own National Intelligence advisor (Tulsi Gabbard) said that Iran was NOT on the verge of building a neutron bomb. As such, Trump followed what Netanyahu/Mossad said and yet they have been saying the same thing for 33 years and have been wrong every time.
This means that the bombing of Iran may not have been necessary at this time. Already, Israel had been successful is harming the leadership of Iran and weakening them, meaning they were now more likely to come to the table to discuss a deal.
The bombing of Iran and hoping that the show of force will cause them to cede and come to the table is ridiculous as the Ayatollah and Iran is the definition of insanity and they will not use common sense now and come to the table. They will return the bombing with more attacks but now those attacks will be on U.S. troops and that will bring a war. I though that Trump promised to be a peacekeeper but this action is the furthest thing from peacekeeping as it gets.
In addition, the Ayatollah is no dummy and I would not be surprised if he anticipated this happening and moved secretly their nuclear capability somewhere else, meaning the bombing may have been mostly a waste of time.
I truly do not know what the answer is but one thing I am sure of, this was a gamble on Trump's part and one that can bring serious consequences to everyone. I think that Trump should have waited and seen how Iran reacted to all the bombing from Israel and the death of several of their leaders and not get the U.S. involved now, especially because the information he had was against what our own intelligence people stated.
Trump acted with his balls and not his brains.
Their use of the "TDS" term has been the most ironic self-own of this whole ugly fuckin' period.Yes, Old Flame has TDS big time.
so we have to ignore and forgive Trump for doing anything wrong because Biden did worse, right?Link to your posts criticizing Biden while he was in office, that you were worried about the consequences of supporting Ukraine with billions against a nuclear super power. Thanks!
Here is the Ayatollah's reply to Trump that came out 3 hours ago
Here is what Trump's chosen Intelligence Director said about Iran's nuclear bomb status
Tulsi said Iran not building nukes.
Here is what Trump said about her statement:
Here is the man that Trump's believed about Iran being close to a nuclear bomb:
here are my thoughts on this:
The bombing of Iran is a gamble and gambling when president is a very dangerous thing to do because if you lose the gamble, the consequences can be huge and that is not something a president should ever do when the odds are not overwhelming in your favor. To begin with, his own National Intelligence advisor (Tulsi Gabbard) said that Iran was NOT on the verge of building a neutron bomb. As such, Trump followed what Netanyahu/Mossad said and yet they have been saying the same thing for 33 years and have been wrong every time.
This means that the bombing of Iran may not have been necessary at this time. Already, Israel had been successful is harming the leadership of Iran and weakening them, meaning they were now more likely to come to the table to discuss a deal.
The bombing of Iran and hoping that the show of force will cause them to cede and come to the table is ridiculous as the Ayatollah and Iran is the definition of insanity and they will not use common sense now and come to the table. They will return the bombing with more attacks but now those attacks will be on U.S. troops and that will bring a war. I though that Trump promised to be a peacekeeper but this action is the furthest thing from peacekeeping as it gets.
In addition, the Ayatollah is no dummy and I would not be surprised if he anticipated this happening and moved secretly their nuclear capability somewhere else, meaning the bombing may have been mostly a waste of time.
I truly do not know what the answer is but one thing I am sure of, this was a gamble on Trump's part and one that can bring serious consequences to everyone. I think that Trump should have waited and seen how Iran reacted to all the bombing from Israel and the death of several of their leaders and not get the U.S. involved now, especially because the information he had was against what our own intelligence people stated.
Trump acted with his balls and not his brains.
blah blah blah
Kill the Supreme Leader and Iranians will cheer.
Most people outside of the pro-Iran folks, think making sure the leading state sponsor of terror doesn't have nukes isn't wrong.so we have to ignore and forgive Trump for doing anything wrong because Biden did worse, right?
When have we replaced their leader? What are you even talking about?No they will not. The last time you killed their leader, 100,000 Iranians were murdered by the guy the USA replaced him with. You are the last country in the world they would accept taking out their leadership. Israel the second last, but they hate YOU, more than they hate the Israeli's and if you were being honest, you'd realize their reasons are just as valid as your hatred of El Qaada, and for the same reason.
What happens if you kill their leaders? Who is going to take over? You killed Saddam with no one to replace him and you got ISIS. You failed to build a strong democracy in Afghanistan and the Taliban took a short drive to Kabul when you left. The army dropped their weapons and ran.
The CIA used to do a lot of regime changes but they always had a strongman ready to go in - Noreiga, Pinochet, Saddam Hussein, Ferdinand Marcos. It doesn't work unless you have a government in exile ready to take over, and neither Trump nor Israel has any plan for Gaza, much less allies and a government in exile for Iran.
Iran has said they will not negotiate as long as they're being bombed.
You're supporting Iran, and their biggest ally, Russia.
look, there is a BIG difference between being officially in a war and having attacks occur that are by PROXIES and that cannot be officially proven to be Iran vs the US attacks.Iran has been attacking US troops for decades .. this is just an accounting of what they've done in the past 5 yrs ! so implying that Iran is going to suddenly take actions like they've been peaceful towards the US until the recent strikes on their NP is misleading ..
AI Overview
Over the past five years (roughly 2020-2025), Iran and its proxies have targeted US troops a significant number of times, primarily in the Middle East. Here's a breakdown based on the provided information:
Since October 7, 2023:
Since the start of 2024:
- Iran-backed militias have conducted at least 216 attacks against US forces in Iraq and Syria, involving at least 372 rockets, missiles, and drones.
- Of these attacks, at least 78 were in Iraq and involved at least 145 projectiles.
- At least 137 attacks targeted US forces in Syria, using at least 227 projectiles.
- Between October 2023 and November 2024, Iran's proxies targeted US bases in Iraq and Syria more than 250 times.
- In January 2024, a drone attack killed three US soldiers at a base in Jordan.
actually---not really I cannot thing of a single case of an Iranian bomb belt "martyr" ---maybeBlah, blah, blah is all you can say to intelligent thinking?
Show me one single thing that I said that is not based on facts and simply common sense thinking!
Kill the Supreme leader and Iranians will cheer? Link to that thought, please. I would like to see if you are using facts and common sense to opine. Isn't Iran one of those countries whose people believe that attaching dynamite to their bodies and killing hundreds of people will take them to heaven and supply them with 72 virgins.
You call that a rational-thinking country?
and just what do you think Iran will do ? for your info they've been at war with the US for decades ? are they now gonna load up on a bunch of rickety rowboats and invade the US ? Iran is weak ! there military leadership has been decimated . the air force decimated , their ground to air defense decimated .. we know leftist want the Iranians to pull a rabbit out of the hat and a achieve a major surprise victory both militarily and moral .. but in reality all they can do is activate terror cells across the world and the cells let into the US by your treasonous party during the Biden admin..look, there is a BIG difference between being officially in a war and having attacks occur that are by PROXIES and that cannot be officially proven to be Iran vs the US attacks.
They key word is "OFFICIAL'. When it is official, you need to respond, or you look weak. That generates strong action and not just terrorist attacks that happen everywhere and to everyone.
and just what do you think Iran will do ? for your info they've been at war with the US for decades ? are they now gonna load up on a bunch of rickety rowboats and invade the US ? Iran is weak ! there military leadership has been decimated . the air force decimated , their ground to air defense decimated .. we know leftist want the Iranians to pull a rabbit out of the hat and a achieve a major surprise victory both militarily and moral .. but in reality all they can do is activate terror cells across the world and the cells let into the US by your treasonous party during the Biden admin..
When have we replaced their leader? What are you even talking about?
"Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi was the eldest son of Reza Shah Pahlavi, Iran’s ruler and founder of the Pahlavi dynasty (1925). Educated in Switzerland, Mohammad Reza returned to Iran in 1935. After the Soviet Union and Great Britain occupied Iran in 1941, Reza Shah was forced into exile, and Mohammad Reza ascended Iran’s throne."
The autocracy of his rule was amplified after the 1953 coup, in which the United States and the United Kingdom helped restore him to power after a two-year standoff with the Majles (parliament) forced him to flee the country.
The White Revolution gained the shah new support from the rural poor and the urban working class, but he faced continuing political criticism from those who felt that the reforms did not move far or fast enough and religious criticism from those who believed Westernization to be antithetical to Islam. Opposition to the shah himself was based upon his autocratic rule, corruption in his government, the unequal distribution of oil wealth, forced Westernization, and the activities of SAVAK (the secret police) in suppressing dissent and opposition to his rule. These negative aspects of the shah’s rule became markedly accentuated after Iran began to reap greater revenues from its petroleum exports beginning in 1973.
Widespread dissatisfaction among the lower classes, Shiʿi clergy, bazaar merchants, and students led in 1978 to the growth of support for Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, a Shiʿi religious leader living in exile in Paris. Rioting and turmoil in Iran’s major cities brought down four successive governments as the Iranian Revolution gained momentum. On January 16, 1979, the shah left the country, and Khomeini assumed control.
Years later, Mohammad Reza Shah dismissed the parliament and launched the White Revolution—an aggressive modernization program that upended the wealth and influence of landowners and clerics, disrupted rural economies, led to rapid urbanization and Westernization, and prompted concerns over democracy and human rights. The program was economically successful, but the benefits were not distributed evenly, though the transformative effects on social norms and institutions were widely felt. . . .
A decade of extraordinary economic growth, heavy government spending, and a boom in oil prices led to high rates of inflation and the stagnation of Iranians’ buying power and standard of living.
In addition to mounting economic difficulties, sociopolitical repression by the shah’s regime increased in the 1970s. Outlets for political participation were minimal, and opposition parties such as the National Front (a loose coalition of nationalists, clerics, and noncommunist left-wing parties) and the pro-Soviet Tūdeh (“Masses”) Party were marginalized or outlawed. Social and political protest was often met with censorship, surveillance, or harassment, and illegal detention and torture were common.
And still the American Government, and the CIA kept him in power. That's why they took your Embassy hostage when the Revolution came in 1979. It's why they still chant "Death to America". If you were an Iranian, you'd be chanting it too.
I'm not saying I agree with them or I support them, but if you don't understand why they hate you, there is no way to understand why bombing them or killing their leaders will not make them think better of you, or willing to negotiate with them.
You took out Saddam, and left ISIS. That's what happens when you don't have a plan.
Here is the Ayatollah's reply to Trump that came out 3 hours ago
Here is what Trump's chosen Intelligence Director said about Iran's nuclear bomb status
Tulsi said Iran not building nukes.
Here is what Trump said about her statement:
Here is the man that Trump's believed about Iran being close to a nuclear bomb:
here are my thoughts on this:
The bombing of Iran is a gamble and gambling when president is a very dangerous thing to do because if you lose the gamble, the consequences can be huge and that is not something a president should ever do when the odds are not overwhelming in your favor. To begin with, his own National Intelligence advisor (Tulsi Gabbard) said that Iran was NOT on the verge of building a neutron bomb. As such, Trump followed what Netanyahu/Mossad said and yet they have been saying the same thing for 33 years and have been wrong every time.
This means that the bombing of Iran may not have been necessary at this time. Already, Israel had been successful is harming the leadership of Iran and weakening them, meaning they were now more likely to come to the table to discuss a deal.
The bombing of Iran and hoping that the show of force will cause them to cede and come to the table is ridiculous as the Ayatollah and Iran is the definition of insanity and they will not use common sense now and come to the table. They will return the bombing with more attacks but now those attacks will be on U.S. troops and that will bring a war. I though that Trump promised to be a peacekeeper but this action is the furthest thing from peacekeeping as it gets.
In addition, the Ayatollah is no dummy and I would not be surprised if he anticipated this happening and moved secretly their nuclear capability somewhere else, meaning the bombing may have been mostly a waste of time.
I truly do not know what the answer is but one thing I am sure of, this was a gamble on Trump's part and one that can bring serious consequences to everyone. I think that Trump should have waited and seen how Iran reacted to all the bombing from Israel and the death of several of their leaders and not get the U.S. involved now, especially because the information he had was against what our own intelligence people stated.
Trump acted with his balls and not his brains.
who killed the shah? what year? hahahaahahahahaha history ain't yours canadian.History ASSHOLE!!! The reason why Iranians chant "Death to America" is the Shah of Iran.
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Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi | Biography, History, & White Revolution | Britannica
Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, shah of Iran (1941–79). A power struggle between him and Mohammad Mosaddegh led to the latter’s ouster in 1953, with help from the United States and the United Kingdom. The shah’s White Revolution fostered development but harmed many Iranians. He was ousted in the...www.britannica.com
This guy was the model for every Hollywood portrayal of a Tin Pot Dictator from the Arab world for nearly 40 years. He lived in lavish luxury in golden palaces while his people starved. He tried to force "Westernization" on the people.
Little of that money filtered down to the people. The Shah murdered 100,00 of his own people, including members of his own family.
From the second article in that link, the Iranian Revolution: