Trump is wavering on Iran.

[meaner gene]

Well read the law..it requires some action

You’ve been exposed as dumb

Leave a little more educated

Laws don't require action. Action is only as a consequence of enforcement. Compliance should be automatic.
Think of it like a traffic light.
No action need be taken to get people to stop for the light.
And only when they break the law by not stopping, is any action necessary.

 

[meaner gene]

50 U.S. Code Chapter 33 - WAR POWERS RESOLUTION

www.law.cornell.edu

50 U.S. Code Chapter 33 - WAR POWERS RESOLUTION

 

[struth]

Laws don't require action. Action is only as a consequence of enforcement. Compliance should be automatic.
Think of it like a traffic light.
No action need be taken to get people to stop for the light.
And only when they break the law by not stopping, is any action necessary.

Laws certainly due require action

And the wars power act requires specific action

Read the law

And Trump met his part on March 2

 

[georgephillip]

So they are known throughout ancient history and amongst their neighbors as intruders, never united, and advantage seeking, aka always flipping their allegiance and also flipping their allegiance respectively amongst Jewish cities and territories.

That resonates with one of Netanyahu's recent statements, probably based on his reading US polls showing declining support for Israel among young Americans:

MSN

"Ten-year phaseout: Netanyahu wants to start immediately reducing U.S. military aid to zero within a decade, ending decades of financial dependence.

"War and politics: The plan unfolds amid wars with Iran and Gaza, declining U.S. public support, and shifting political attitudes toward foreign aid.

"Feasibility questions: Experts warn Israel may struggle to sustain long-term conflicts without U.S. support, despite its growing defense industry and economy."

 

[Divine Wind]

As I would expect

Thanks for agreeing this could be next year before the Strait is open again.

Sadly, I expect Trump will give away the store and walk away leaving the Iranians more powerful than before. The only solution for winning is to nuke Tehran and invade Iran.

Do you think Trump should do both?

 

[struth]

Thanks for agreeing this could be next year before the Strait is open again.

Sadly, I expect Trump will give away the store and walk away leaving the Iranians more powerful than before. The only solution for winning is to nuke Tehran and invade Iran.

Do you think Trump should do both?

Are you talking to yourself?

 

[Divine Wind]

Are you talking to yourself?

No. Are you denying your own statements?

When do you expect Trump will "win" and the Strait of Hormuz will be open for traffic as it was before Trump attacked Iran? TIA for an honest, straightforward reply.

 

[struth]

No. Are you denying your own statements?

When do you expect Trump will "win" and the Strait of Hormuz will be open for traffic as it was before Trump attacked Iran? TIA for an honest, straightforward reply.

What statements are you refering to? Quote me

And any day now

 

[Divine Wind]

What statements are you refering to? Quote me

And any day now

Typical MAGAt reaction to running from their own posts; make someone else look it up so they can deny that's what they meant:


Any day? You mean any day this month? Any day this year? Any day during this term?

When did I say they weren’t fighting someone? They in fact where, the North Koreans

I didn’t say he would of stopped the Korean War or the conflict

What I did say is he would of stopped there being a North Korea with themronuclear power

Your hype was about a dem going to war with a nuclear Korea

Why can’t you stay on topic and stop deflecting and moving the goal post when you hammered with reality?

 

[Kruska]

That resonates with one of Netanyahu's recent statements, probably based on his reading US polls showing declining support for Israel among young Americans:

MSN

"Ten-year phaseout: Netanyahu wants to start immediately reducing U.S. military aid to zero within a decade, ending decades of financial dependence.

"War and politics: The plan unfolds amid wars with Iran and Gaza, declining U.S. public support, and shifting political attitudes toward foreign aid.

"Feasibility questions: Experts warn Israel may struggle to sustain long-term conflicts without U.S. support, despite its growing defense industry and economy."

Maybe that course of direction on behalf of Israel - can be attributed more to Turkey then Iran. Turkey as you know is a NATO member and the most crucial on NATO's southern flank. Trump however has his own business agenda with Russia.

Turkey and Greece are knife to knife with each other - Israel has already taken advantage of this by reducing it's military cooperation with Turkey to almost zero- whilst at the same time massively upgrading Israel-Greece economic and foremost military cooperation and ties.

Turkey will IMO sooner face a massive revolution then Iran - and Israel will take it's chance/advantage out of this. Therefore they need to take the USA out of the equation - since Trump can't risk, or rather the USA will not support Israel in this matter.

 

[struth]

Typical MAGAt reaction to running from their own posts; make someone else look it up so they can deny that's what they meant:


Any day? You mean any day this month? Any day this year? Any day during this term?

and what's incorrect about that statement you quoted?

Yes, it could be any day this year

 

[Divine Wind]

and what's incorrect about that statement you quoted?
Yes, it could be any day this year

Asked and answered.

This year? Oh, goodie!
How much will Trump give up to Iran to make that happen?

 

[struth]

This year? Oh, goodie!

Yep, could be...any day now

 

[meaner gene]

Laws certainly due require action

And the wars power act requires specific action

Read the law

And Trump met his part on March 2

Trump missed the filings details

Each report required by subsection (a) shall include—
(1)the authority or authorities under which the United States Armed Forces were operating when the incident occurred;
(2)the date, location, and duration of the incident and the other parties involved;
(3)a description of the United States Armed Forces involved in the incident and the mission of such Armed Forces;
(4)the numbers of any combatant casualties and civilian casualties that occurred as a result of the incident;

 

[meaner gene]

Laws certainly due require action

And the wars power act requires specific action

Read the law

And Trump met his part on March 2

Not later than 30 days after the date on which a change is made to the legal and policy frameworks described in subsection (a)(1), the President shall notify the appropriate congressional committees of such change, including the legal, factual, and policy justification for such change.

Trump missed the deadline April 1st

 

[struth]

Trump missed the filings details

Each report required by subsection (a) shall include—
(1)the authority or authorities under which the United States Armed Forces were operating when the incident occurred;
(2)the date, location, and duration of the incident and the other parties involved;
(3)a description of the United States Armed Forces involved in the incident and the mission of such Armed Forces;
(4)the numbers of any combatant casualties and civilian casualties that occurred as a result of the incident;

Dude, he filed his report to Congress on March 2nd

War Powers Report Iran

www.documentcloud.org

With that said, since this is not a war, and it's legal under the case law you cited, he doens't have to even follow the war powers act

 

[meaner gene]

Yep, could be...any day now

You mean the Strait will open up by itself when the weather gets warmer?

 

[struth]

You mean the Strait will open up by itself when the weather gets warmer?

It's pretty hot there now....I don't think the weather will have anything to do with it.

 

[meaner gene]

Dude, he filed his report to Congress on March 2nd

War Powers Report Iran

www.documentcloud.org

With that said, since this is not a war, and it's legal under the case law you cited, he doens't have to even follow the war powers act

Absolutely wrong. The USSC said that it's LEGALLY a WAR based on the military engagement, even if not declared by congress. Noting that congress hasn't declared a war since WWII.
And since then we had the Korean War, Vietnam War, Persian Gulf War, etc. etc. etc..
So it has to follow the War Powers Act.

 

[struth]

Absolutely wrong. The USSC said that it's LEGALLY a WAR based on the military engagement, even if not declared by congress. Noting that congress hasn't declared a war since WWII.
And since then we had the Korean War, Vietnam War, Persian Gulf War, etc. etc. etc..
So it has to follow the War Powers Act.

here is what you said yesterday:

The USSC said that combat operations constitute an undeclared "war". That no formal declarations by congress is needed, for the conflict to be legally the same as a war declared by congress.

It's a WAR (legal state of)

The Supreme Court Prize Cases (1863), the Court reinforced that when the President acts in response to foreign aggression, a formal declaration of war is not required to establish a legal state of war

and undeclared war, doesn't need any declaration of war. In 1863, you idiot, there was no WW2 for them to note.

The Court clearly stated the PResident didn't need to get a declaration from congress for war, for us to be in a conflict.