Iran agrees to peace deal !

If anything, it should destroy the left come the midterms, but the deal has to be legit and long term meeting all requirements.
A certain "ally" will certainly do everything in its power to sabotage a "peace deal." Doesn't fit into the overall agenda.
 
How did Trump become the spokesperson for Israel ? Does he figure that everyone is just his yes men ?? Israel is an allie in that region, and not a controlled nation by the USA. Do we think less of Israel's capabilities than we do of Ukraines ? Seems that we are saying nothing about what Ukraine is doing, but we got a lot to say about what Israel is doing to defend itself. Make it make sense.
The goal is to get rid of Iran's Nuke quest. But yes Hezbollah attacking Israel matters too. I just made a point of fact, not an argument. It would suck if this went on another year because Israel wasn't part of the peace process. Now that is an argument.
 
The goal is to get rid of Iran's Nuke quest. But yes Hezbollah attacking Israel matters too. I just made a point of fact, not an argument. It would suck if this went on another year because Israel wasn't part of the peace process. Now that is an argument.
Why didn't we just send support and give the necessary tools to Israel to finish Iran themselves ?? Is there islamist in America who are influencing our government to intervene between Israel and it's attackers, and all in hopes to preserve the Islamist state and it's proxies in and around Iran ?

We are supplying Ukraine with the necessary tech and tools to push Russia back out of Ukraine, so I ask what is the difference in Ukrainians and Israelis ??????
 
Why didn't we just send support and give the necessary tools to Israel to finish Iran themselves ?? Is there islamist in America who are influencing our government to intervene between Israel and it's attackers, and all in hopes to preserve the Islamist state and it's proxies in and around Iran ?

We are supplying Ukraine with the necessary tech and tools to push Russia back out of Ukraine, so I ask what is the difference in Ukrainians and Israelis ??????
Iran can't Nuke us to death yet.
 
Why didn't we just send support and give the necessary tools to Israel to finish Iran themselves ??
I surmise Trump got Venezuela Victory Fever and Netanyahoo convinced him, taking out some of the leadership would cause a spontaneous revolution or something.
 
I surmise Trump got Venezuela Victory Fever and Netanyahoo convinced him, taking out some of the leadership would cause a spontaneous revolution or something.
What Trump is doing is surgical. No boots on the ground. Minimal US casualties. Using economics to bring Iran to it's knees and to the bargaining table. For the first time in 4 decades Iran isn't able to use closing the Straight of Hormuz as blackmail against the rest to the world. Trump realized that a blockade would quickly destroy what's left of the Iranian economy.

There will be a revolution in Iran. The mullahs and the IRGC have cratered the Iranian economy so bad that the everyday Iranian no longer sees them as reliable. The people don't have water. Their currency is worthless. Inflation is crushing. The social contract between the regime and the Iranian people has always been 'put up with our taking away your freedoms and we will make sure you're fed and housed.' The regime can no longer provide those things.
 
Let's hope so....:rolleyes:

Yeah, I'm not holding my breath. I'll believe it when I see it.


Don't get me wrong, I hope you're right. Just not going to hold my breath.

Same here. It's similar to how some people on here think that I actually enjoy bashing the president when I'm purely criticizing him based upon my observations. I don't enjoy it though because I have ALWAYS been rooting for him and wishing the best for him.


Good news but with all things involving Iran believe it when you see it.

Exactly!


Yeah, Israel isn't really helping as much as I hate to admit it because that was a stupid move on their part.


Fun fact: The deal has been signed.

The 6/19 ceremony is a formality.

I thought that that was supposed to happen Friday.
 
Same here. It's similar to how some people on here think that I actually enjoy bashing the president when I'm purely criticizing him based upon my observations. I don't enjoy it though because I have ALWAYS been rooting for him and wishing the best for him.
That's why they're called negotiations. Nothing is static--so things are changing through it all. Unfortunately there are quite a few 'never Trumpers' on this board that will disparage him regardless of what comes out in the end. These are the true enemies of the state. They put their own unexplained hatred of a single man above the good of the country.
 
That's why they're called negotiations. Nothing is static--so things are changing through it all. Unfortunately there are quite a few 'never Trumpers' on this board that will disparage him regardless of what comes out in the end. These are the true enemies of the state. They put their own unexplained hatred of a single man above the good of the country.


Believe it or not I actually LOVE it when Trump proves me wrong. 😁
 
Believe it or not I actually LOVE it when Trump proves me wrong. 😁
I don't like to get into win/lose in these types of things. When the country is so insanely polarized as it is and there are people actively trying to make it worse as the left obviously is---WE ALL LOSE and the country is weaker which leads me to believe the left is doing it purposely and it borders on treason. They should be focused on compromise and a way forward and not obstruction.
 
I don't like to get into win/lose in these types of things. When the country is so insanely polarized as it is and there are people actively trying to make it worse as the left obviously is---WE ALL LOSE and the country is weaker which leads me to believe the left is doing it purposely and it borders on treason. They should be focused on compromise and a way forward and not obstruction.


It's not a win-lose thing though, it's a I want Trump to prove that I knew that he was going to be the greatest president ever when I voted for him kind of thing, because although he's a MUCH better choice than Kamala Harris would have been, lately he hasn't been making me feel that way and I hate that fact too.
 
It's not a win-lose thing though, it's a I want Trump to prove that I knew that he was going to be the greatest president ever when I voted for him kind of thing, because although he's a MUCH better choice than Kamala Harris would have been, lately he hasn't been making me feel that way and I hate that fact too.
You are going to be sadly disappointed with anyone who ever holds that office. They are humans just like you and me. They can only do what situations allow them to do and sometimes they're good and sometime they're bad--but to actively attempt to obstruct progress because of hatred of the man is treasonous and its wrong.
 
That's great but the NY Post is reporting that? 😮

The NY Post is quoting the Veep.

If it's manufactured, I am sure he will correct the record.

But oh wait, he won't because he was on FOX last night saying the same thing.

It's mind boggling how you people will believe the most sensationalized pessimistic manufactured crap, but will contort yourselves into pretzels not to accept simple positive reality if it involves you know who.

And in your internet circle jerk you honestly believe you're the majority, and that the tide has turned.

But Massies electoral demise (among a panoply of other developments) proves otherwise.

I am going to get back to enjoying America's golden age now, while it passes you by.
 
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The NY Post is quoting the Veep.

If it's manufactured, I am sure he will correct the record.

But oh wait, he won't because he was on FOX last night saying the same thing.

It's mind boggling how you people will believe the most sensationalized pessimistic manufactured crap, but will contort yourselves into pretzels not to accept simple positive reality if it involves you know who.

And in your internet circle jerk you honestly believe you're the majority, and that the tide has turned.

But Massies electoral demise (among a panoply of other developments) proves otherwise.

I am going to get back to enjoying America's golden age now, while it passes you by.


Umm I just said that it was great news, I'm just surprised that a liberal website is reporting it is all. Of course, now the true test is will Iran hold their side of the bargain because that remains to be seen.
 
Umm I just said that it was great news, I'm just surprised that a liberal website is reporting it is all. Of course, now the true test is will Iran hold their side of the bargain because that remains to be seen.
Best to just wait and observe what actually happens instead of speculating. The market seems to be responding positively--up ~700 and flirting with 52K and oil is down in the low $80/bbl range. Someone thinks positive things are in the works.
 
It's not a win-lose thing though, it's a I want Trump to prove that I knew that he was going to be the greatest president ever when I voted for him kind of thing, because although he's a MUCH better choice than Kamala Harris would have been, lately he hasn't been making me feel that way and I hate that fact too.
Make him prove he was the first nominee who didn't lie to you, who didn't make himself look bigger and better than he really was? Ok, hold your breath a count to 1,000 very very slowly to yourself.
 
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