Iran agrees to peace deal !

[Mac1958]

I know what you mean - but you really believe that Iran will just accept having been hammered two times, billions of damage and thousands of lives lost? - unlike Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya and even Vietnam - they retain a striking capability, and if the oil flows freely, they will certainly increase that striking capability.

TACO opened the Pandora's Box - and closing the lid doesn't solve that.

Yeah, there's no way to know yet. It's a little tough to believe that Iran has folded, so either this is just some "truce" they can use to their advantage, or they need to get out of it, too.

I'll be pleasantly surprised if Iran isn't in better shape than it was with JCPOA.

Trump is a goddamn ignorant buffoon, and now everyone on the planet knows it, including our enemies.

 

[Kruska]

Yeah, there's no way to know yet. It's a little tough to believe that Iran has folded, so either this is just some "truce" they can use to their advantage, or they need to get out of it, too.

I'll be pleasantly surprised if Iran isn't in better shape than it was with JCPOA.

Trump is a goddamn ignorant buffoon, and now everyone on the planet knows it, including our enemies.

I don't see that Iran folded - they need to get their oil aka economy running - Europe has signaled that they are willing to drop sanctions - Iran might also be willing to drop their nuclear weapons ambitions. (for a certain time). Probably they got enough nuke systems ready to assemble in a two weeks period - or let it be two month.

As such they would be in economically in a far better shape, then they were during JCPOA, despite all the damages.

The question to me is still - why is TACO soooo eager to chicken out? because Iran factually has nukes? That sounds far more plausible to me then TACO giving a shit about the midterms.

 

[Mac1958]

The question to me is still - why is TACO soooo eager to chicken out? because Iran factually has nukes? That sounds far more plausible to me then TACO giving a shit about the midterms.

My guess is that he's under massive pressure to get out of this, by pretty much everyone in DC, the country and around the planet outside of Bebe.

One thing you can be sure of: His top priority is how he looks here.

 

[yidnar]

This is not a signed peace deal. This is a statement to agree to extend the terms of the ceasefire with concessions.
The US agrees to end its blockade of the Strait, and Iran agrees to table its nuclear program. Not to end it. They have agreed to discuss the possibility of ending it.
It is also rumored that the US has agreed to release Iranian frozen funds.

the funds and sanctions relief are contingent on Irans actions .. its basically a don't trust but verify .. the Islamofascist regime and their democrat allies have suffered a major humiliating defeat ..

 

[Kruska]

My guess is that he's under massive pressure to get out of this, by pretty much everyone in DC, the country and around the planet outside of Bebe.

One thing you can be sure of: His top priority is how he looks here.

No - not good enough for me - sorry.
A narcissistic fraudster always sees and sells himself as a winner or fantastic deal maker.

The loudmouth assembled 3 aircraft carriers dozens of missile destroyers, landing crafts and around 15,000 elite troops to the already existing force of around 35,000 men + hundreds of aircraft. There is no way IMO, that Iran could have with conventional weapons stopped a targeted intrusion around the Straits of Hormuz. And the USA has the factual ability to take down 90% or more of Iran's drones and missiles - they might have fired at the Gulf States.

So I will still set my bet on an Iranian nuclear capability - or the USA is in such a state that they can't take the loss of 2000-3000 men. If so how the hell does TACO or the USA want to take on China?.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[yidnar]

I don't see that Iran folded - they need to get their oil aka economy running - Europe has signaled that they are willing to drop sanctions - Iran might also be willing to drop their nuclear weapons ambitions. (for a certain time). Probably they got enough nuke systems ready to assemble in a two weeks period - or let it be two month.

As such they would be in economically in a far better shape, then they were during JCPOA, despite all the damages.

The question to me is still - why is TACO soooo eager to chicken out? because Iran factually has nukes? That sounds far more plausible to me then TACO giving a shit about the midterms.

pathetic ..

 

[yidnar]

My guess is that he's under massive pressure to get out of this, by pretty much everyone in DC, the country and around the planet outside of Bebe.

One thing you can be sure of: His top priority is how he looks here.

gas prices were dropping before the lefts islamofascist ally crawled to the negotiating table .. the lefts hopes that the Strait would be their allies strength turned out to be their weakness when the US actually blocked the Strait ! and for the past couple of weeks the US has escorted tankers out carrying 100s of millions of barrels while blocking Irnian oil from leaving ..

 

[Mac1958]

No - not good enough for me - sorry.
A narcissistic fraudster always sees and sells himself as a winner or fantastic deal maker.

The loudmouth assembled 3 aircraft carriers dozens of missile destroyers, landing crafts and around 15,000 elite troops to the already existing force of around 35,000 men + hundreds of aircraft. There is no way IMO, that Iran could have with conventional weapons stopped a targeted intrusion around the Straits of Hormuz. And the USA has the factual ability to take down 90% or more of Iran's drones and missiles - they might have fired at the Gulf States.

So I will still set my bet on an Iranian nuclear capability - or the USA is in such a state that they can't take the loss of 2000-3000 men. If so how the hell does TACO or the USA want to take on China?.

Just my 2 cents.

So you think they have some kind of nukes? If so, do you think they had them before the earlier attacks (Trump's "obliteration" claims)?

 

[Kruska]

So you think they have some kind of nukes? If so, do you think they had them before the earlier attacks (Trump's "obliteration" claims)?

Yes - but before TACO obliterated - murdered their government and Mullah leadership in Feb. there is no proof that Iran's leadership allowed for those nukes to be assembled aka placed into service.

German and European intel has intensive and exact records of materials and tech Iranian proxy companies imported and tried to import into Iran for decades, so there is no doubt in my mind that Iran possesses nuclear know-how and enriched uranium to produce a or multiple warheads.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

More like inappropriate.

At least to all the right people.

Why?
There’s nothing like an event that would be good for Americans stepping on the toes of a divisive, racist democrat contrivance.

 

[HikerGuy83]

My guess

You put a lot of stock in your "guesses" and so do I.

They are wrong about 100% of the time. So if you are guessing it, I am betting against it.

 

[kyzr]

I know what you mean - but you really believe that Iran will just accept having been hammered two times, billions of damage and thousands of lives lost? - unlike Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya and even Vietnam - they retain a striking capability, and if the oil flows freely, they will certainly increase that striking capability. TACO opened the Pandora's Box - and closing the lid doesn't solve that.

Iran has a local striking capability, they know that if they misbehave they get hammered again.
If/when the Iranian oil flows, they have more urgent needs than advanced weapons.
Iran has no clue what Pandora's Box really looks like...

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

the funds and sanctions relief are contingent on Irans actions .. its basically a don't trust but verify .. the Islamofascist regime and their democrat allies have suffered a major humiliating defeat ..

Hopefully, they have. Hopefully, this is over with. However, as soon as Trump announced this, Israel resumed attacks on Lebanon.
The Jews will NOT let this happen. For this to work for the US, we have to pack up and just leave it all to Israel.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Coming back to a status quo after a 3 years lasting war isn't a victory - it's a stalemate. And TACO and his cabinet are fu....g clowns who can't even develop a military campaign and strategy to take on a mediocre foe like IRAN.

It's lasted 3 years? LOL God, you're clueless!

 

[Slyhunter]

Israel is screwing up the peace deal for Trump. Trump can't force them into accepting it.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Let's be clear...this Iranian regime has a long history of not living up to their end of deals. They lie. That's who they are. That's who they've always been. They will sign this agreement with the intention of not following it. They think they can play whoever the American President is at that time because they have a long history of being successful at doing just that!

They'll open up the Straight of Hormuz because the blockade is killing them. They don't have a choice.

What the hard liners in Iran need to understand is that American military power can once again impose a blockade whenever we feel it's necessary. We can once again choke off their revenue supply. If they go back to funding a nuclear program? If they go back to funding Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis? We will know about it. If this conflict has proven anything it's that there are people in Iran who are providing intelligence about what is going on in Iran. It's how we knew where we could kill Iranian leadership. How we knew where their hidden military assets were located. I would predict that the blockade will have to be imposed again before Iran learns it's lesson and I don't think Trump will have a problem doing so.

The game that Iran has been playing for the last 40 years has changed because of this conflict. Their attacks on Arab neighbors has shown the region who the real enemy is. You've now got oil pipelines being constructed or expanded so that countries no longer are going to be wholly dependent on the Straight of Hormuz being open to ship their oil. Once that happens a blockade would hurt the Iranians but the rest of the region would be fine. The Iranians biggest threat is taken away.

 

[beagle9]

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Your point ?

 

[SaxonJackson]

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^^^ Exactly ^^^

Now that "peace" is almost a reality ... it's time for the bloodthirsty Netanyahu to bomb someone again. Doesn't matter who, really. Just someone.

 

[beagle9]

Israel is screwing up the peace deal for Trump. Trump can't force them into accepting it.

How did Trump become the spokesperson for Israel ? Does he figure that everyone is just his yes men ?? Israel is an allie in that region, and not a controlled nation by the USA. Do we think less of Israel's capabilities than we do of Ukraines ? Seems that we are saying nothing about what Ukraine is doing, but we got a lot to say about what Israel is doing to defend itself. Make it make sense.

 

[candycorn]

Not seeing a difference except 13 Americans are dead. How much money is Iran getting?

$300 billion is one figure I saw.