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The drive to build the huge data centers, and the international situation have conspired to make renewables much more attractive. A home with solar and battery backup is far less vulnerable to grid failure. And the panels and battery are about one half the cost they were only five years ago. An EV is not dependent on choke points during geopolitical crisis. And the cost of building out solar and wind is not only less than fossil fuels, but can be done far quicker.

How geopolitical shocks sparked the clean energy surge​

The closure of the Strait of Hormuz during the Iran war triggered a 21% jump in U.S. home solar-plus-battery requests and a 17% rebound in used EV sales within weeks. Similar patterns are emerging globally, with even resource-poor nations in the Global South leapfrogging to renewables as costs fall. These shifts are reinforced by the perception that renewables offer resilience against supply disruptions and price spikes. Oil Price US + 1

Policy headwinds and market constraints​

In the U.S., the expiration of federal residential solar tax credits and Trump-era rollbacks have slowed growth—solar installations fell 27% year-over-year in Q1 2026. However, fossil fuels still accounted for only 4% of new generating capacity, reflecting the enduring market appeal of renewables. Supply chain pressures and tariffs remain challenges, but state-level initiatives and financing models are sustaining momentum. Time + 1
 
Solar is a joke. It produces only when the sun shines and even then any light cloud cover reduces that output.

If solar weren't subsidized it would die, as it should. Batteries ain't making up the difference.
So that is why the ultra liberal state of Texas in investing so much is solar, correct?

Key Takeaways​

  • Texas has transformed into a national solar powerhouse, moving from small pilot projects to gigawatt-scale solar farms that now power over 5.1 million homes.
  • Solar energy is strengthening grid reliability, with solar plus battery storage meeting nearly 25% of midday demand and eliminating ERCOT conservation alerts in summer 2024.
  • The solar boom is a major economic driver, generating $52.9+ billion in investment, supporting 14,800+ high-paying jobs, and delivering strong tax and lease income to rural communities.
  • Texas is on track for massive future growth, with nearly 23 GW of new solar capacity by 2026 and total capacity projected to reach 40+ GW by 2030.
  • Despite challenges like transmission limits and storage duration, continued innovation in batteries, distributed solar, and market policies positions Texas for long-term clean energy leadership.

 
Solar is useless when the sun doesn't shine, and cloud cover during the day reduces its production even if the sun is out.

Claiming nameplate capacity as actual output is the game solaristas play. Solar cannot power a grid. There is a reason solar needs huge subsidies.
 
So that is why the ultra liberal state of Texas in investing so much is solar, correct?

Key Takeaways​

  • Texas has transformed into a national solar powerhouse, moving from small pilot projects to gigawatt-scale solar farms that now power over 5.1 million homes.
  • Solar energy is strengthening grid reliability, with solar plus battery storage meeting nearly 25% of midday demand and eliminating ERCOT conservation alerts in summer 2024.
  • The solar boom is a major economic driver, generating $52.9+ billion in investment, supporting 14,800+ high-paying jobs, and delivering strong tax and lease income to rural communities.
  • Texas is on track for massive future growth, with nearly 23 GW of new solar capacity by 2026 and total capacity projected to reach 40+ GW by 2030.
  • Despite challenges like transmission limits and storage duration, continued innovation in batteries, distributed solar, and market policies positions Texas for long-term clean energy leadership.

How about Portland? LMAO
 
Use home solar they said, it will pay for itself they said....Sounded great till they moved the goalposts so they could tax homeowners more.

States like CA disallowed homeowners from receiving the retail residential rate and only allowed them to receive the wholesale rate for the power they returned to the grid, thus negating any savings the installation of home solar may have provided.
 
Use home solar they said, it will pay for itself they said....Sounded great till they moved the goalposts so they could tax homeowners more.

States like CA disallowed homeowners from receiving the retail residential rate and only allowed them to receive the wholesale rate for the power they returned to the grid, thus negating any savings the installation of home solar may have provided.
Haven't lived in CA for over 10 years, but during the 40 years that I did, the utility companies were mandated to pay peak rate for energy that fed into the grid. I'm really not surprised that they've reduced that now as I'm told that new construction has to have roof top solar---more people feeding in.
 
Haven't lived in CA for over 10 years, but during the 40 years that I did, the utility companies were mandated to pay peak rate for energy that fed into the grid. I'm really not surprised that they've reduced that now as I'm told that new construction has to have roof top solar---more people feeding in.
Yep, that goes unnoticed by the renewable weenies.....I guess being commies as they are they figure it's for the "greater good".
 
Use home solar they said, it will pay for itself they said....Sounded great till they moved the goalposts so they could tax homeowners more.

States like CA disallowed homeowners from receiving the retail residential rate and only allowed them to receive the wholesale rate for the power they returned to the grid, thus negating any savings the installation of home solar may have provided.
No matter what it is, they will always find an angle to **** you. There's always an ulterior motive with those assholes.
 
How about Portland? LMAO

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Share of Oregon’s Power from Renewable Sources​

In 2025, about 63% of Oregon’s electricity came from low‑carbon (renewable) sources, with hydropower being the largest contributor at over 42% of total generation lowcarbonpower.org. Wind energy provided nearly 14%, and solar energy — both utility‑scale and behind‑the‑meter — accounted for just over 5% lowcarbonpower.org.

This means that most of Oregon’s power is renewable, but the mix is dominated by hydropower, with significant but smaller contributions from wind and solar. Fossil fuels, mainly natural gas, still make up nearly one‑third of the state’s electricity lowcarbonpower.org.

Breakdown of 2025 Generation Mix​

  • Hydropower: >42%
  • Wind: ~14%
  • Solar: >5%
  • Other renewables (biofuels, geothermal, small hydro): small share
  • Natural gas: ~30%
  • Other fossil sources: minimal

Context​

  • Oregon’s Renewable Portfolio Standard (RPS) requires that 50% of the state’s electricity come from renewable resources by 2040 ecologiclife.com.
  • The state’s renewable share is already well above the 2025 RPS target, but continued growth in wind, solar, and possibly nuclear or geothermal could help meet and exceed the 2040 goal.
  • Hydropower’s share can vary year‑to‑year with precipitation, while wind and solar are growing steadily.
In summary: As of 2025, over two‑thirds of Oregon’s electricity is renewable, with hydropower leading the mix, making the state one of the cleanest in the U.S. for electricity generation lowcarbonpower.org.
 
Yep, that goes unnoticed by the renewable weenies.....I guess being commies as they are they figure it's for the "greater good".
Spoken like a true little fascist MAGAt. Ah well, November is coming, and solar and wind will continue to bury coal and exceed natural gas as new energy simply on economics.
 
Use home solar they said, it will pay for itself they said....Sounded great till they moved the goalposts so they could tax homeowners more.

States like CA disallowed homeowners from receiving the retail residential rate and only allowed them to receive the wholesale rate for the power they returned to the grid, thus negating any savings the installation of home solar may have provided.
What bullshit. If your electrical bill is reduced to just the connection fee, you are definitely saving money. As for receiving only the wholesale rate, that is rational as long as you also receive the peaker rate when that is being used.
 
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Share of Oregon’s Power from Renewable Sources​

In 2025, about 63% of Oregon’s electricity came from low‑carbon (renewable) sources, with hydropower being the largest contributor at over 42% of total generation lowcarbonpower.org. Wind energy provided nearly 14%, and solar energy — both utility‑scale and behind‑the‑meter — accounted for just over 5% lowcarbonpower.org.

This means that most of Oregon’s power is renewable, but the mix is dominated by hydropower, with significant but smaller contributions from wind and solar. Fossil fuels, mainly natural gas, still make up nearly one‑third of the state’s electricity lowcarbonpower.org.

Breakdown of 2025 Generation Mix​

  • Hydropower: >42%
  • Wind: ~14%
  • Solar: >5%
  • Other renewables (biofuels, geothermal, small hydro): small share
  • Natural gas: ~30%
  • Other fossil sources: minimal

Context​

  • Oregon’s Renewable Portfolio Standard (RPS) requires that 50% of the state’s electricity come from renewable resources by 2040 ecologiclife.com.
  • The state’s renewable share is already well above the 2025 RPS target, but continued growth in wind, solar, and possibly nuclear or geothermal could help meet and exceed the 2040 goal.
  • Hydropower’s share can vary year‑to‑year with precipitation, while wind and solar are growing steadily.
In summary: As of 2025, over two‑thirds of Oregon’s electricity is renewable, with hydropower leading the mix, making the state one of the cleanest in the U.S. for electricity generation lowcarbonpower.org.
Deflection? Less than 5% from solar. That is the point OR. Solar is ineffective. That 42% hydro has been the fact for decades--at times I would wager that it has been higher than than that in the past. LOL, Wind has been along the Columbia Gorge for decades as well. Try again.
 
Deflection? Less than 5% from solar. That is the point OR. Solar is ineffective. That 42% hydro has been the fact for decades--at times I would wager that it has been higher than than that in the past. LOL, Wind has been along the Columbia Gorge for decades as well. Try again.
The first commercial wind turbine went online in 1998. It was in the last two decades that we saw major wind power along the Columbia. However, the prime area for wind in Oregon is not on the Columbia, it is in South Eastern Oregon, in the northern most extension of the Horst and Graben province. That area also has good solar potential, all it needs is transmission lines. Most of the land is government owned, and the income from the wind and solar installations could go to our National Park System. Of course, that will have to wait until the orange cretin leaves office, one way or another.

Solar ineffective? LOL


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Share of New Global Generation from Solar in 2025​

In 2025, solar energy accounted for about 75% of the 692 GW of new renewable power capacity added worldwide pv magazine International. This figure reflects the record year for both solar and total renewables deployment, with 511 GW of solar capacity added globally pv magazine International.

To put this in context:

  • Total renewables capacity added: 692 GW
  • Solar share: ~75% of that (≈511 GW) pv magazine International
  • Total global renewable capacity by end of 2025: 5.14 TW (≈5,140 GW), with solar making up about 2.4 TW pv magazine International.
This dominance of solar in new capacity underscores its role as the fastest-growing renewable technology, outpacing other sources like wind and hydropower in annual additions pv magazine International+1. The IEA also notes that solar PV is responsible for nearly 80% of global renewable electricity capacity growth over the 2025–2030 forecast period IEA – International Energy Agency+1.

In summary, solar powered roughly three-quarters of all new renewable generation worldwide in 2025, marking a record year for clean energy expansion.
 
"no longer about climate" is correct.

CO2 FRAUD has been obliterated.

Earth hasn't warmed at all for at least the past 60+ years....

Nobody on your side can refute one word of this...


 
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The first commercial wind turbine went online in 1998. It was in the last two decades that we saw major wind power along the Columbia. However, the prime area for wind in Oregon is not on the Columbia, it is in South Eastern Oregon, in the northern most extension of the Horst and Graben province. That area also has good solar potential, all it needs is transmission lines. Most of the land is government owned, and the income from the wind and solar installations could go to our National Park System. Of course, that will have to wait until the orange cretin leaves office, one way or another.

Solar ineffective? LOL

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Share of New Global Generation from Solar in 2025​

In 2025, solar energy accounted for about 75% of the 692 GW of new renewable power capacity added worldwide pv magazine International. This figure reflects the record year for both solar and total renewables deployment, with 511 GW of solar capacity added globally pv magazine International.

To put this in context:

  • Total renewables capacity added: 692 GW
  • Solar share: ~75% of that (≈511 GW) pv magazine International
  • Total global renewable capacity by end of 2025: 5.14 TW (≈5,140 GW), with solar making up about 2.4 TW pv magazine International.
This dominance of solar in new capacity underscores its role as the fastest-growing renewable technology, outpacing other sources like wind and hydropower in annual additions pv magazine International+1. The IEA also notes that solar PV is responsible for nearly 80% of global renewable electricity capacity growth over the 2025–2030 forecast period IEA – International Energy Agency+1.

In summary, solar powered roughly three-quarters of all new renewable generation worldwide in 2025, marking a record year for clean energy expansion.

Government handouts and stupid government mandates are why so much solar is being added.
It certainly isn't making electricity cheaper for consumers or manufacturers.
 
Government handouts and stupid government mandates are why so much solar is being added.
It certainly isn't making electricity cheaper for consumers or manufacturers.
So that is why solar is doing this worldwide;

"75%
Share of global electricity demand growth met by solar power in 2025"

"33.8%
Share of renewables in global power generation in 2025 – above a third for the first time, overtaking coal"

"-0.2%
Year-on-year change in fossil generation"

Man, you need to get real.

 
The drive to build the huge data centers, and the international situation have conspired to make renewables much more attractive. A home with solar and battery backup is far less vulnerable to grid failure. And the panels and battery are about one half the cost they were only five years ago. An EV is not dependent on choke points during geopolitical crisis. And the cost of building out solar and wind is not only less than fossil fuels, but can be done far quicker.

How geopolitical shocks sparked the clean energy surge​

The closure of the Strait of Hormuz during the Iran war triggered a 21% jump in U.S. home solar-plus-battery requests and a 17% rebound in used EV sales within weeks. Similar patterns are emerging globally, with even resource-poor nations in the Global South leapfrogging to renewables as costs fall. These shifts are reinforced by the perception that renewables offer resilience against supply disruptions and price spikes. Oil Price US + 1

Policy headwinds and market constraints​

In the U.S., the expiration of federal residential solar tax credits and Trump-era rollbacks have slowed growth—solar installations fell 27% year-over-year in Q1 2026. However, fossil fuels still accounted for only 4% of new generating capacity, reflecting the enduring market appeal of renewables. Supply chain pressures and tariffs remain challenges, but state-level initiatives and financing models are sustaining momentum. Time + 1
We were doing memes about it two months ago

It's funny right

All of a sudden the money is drying up for the activism.Where was the money coming from
All of a sudden we need to build power plants stat
All of a sudden, the u n says well we may have been lying.It's not as overblown as we claimed

You'll be screaming that data centers are the best thing Since sliced bread when your master's at fact check and in the mainstream media command you to
 
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