Zone1 In what ways is antisemitism “cloaked” as being against “just” Israel?

[Frankeneinstein]

What do you mean? More than one person posting under his name?

Yeah, I think it could be

 

[Lisa558]

Yeah, I think it could be

Interesting.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Hating Jews provides posters with the keys to the kingdom, here. They can say anything they want, and when they call for censorship of other posters right out in the open, those posters get censored.

been here going on 11 years now...I don't have much of a problem with the mods here, as for posters with their liberal bias..."bring'em on"

 

[Natural Citizen]

Hm. Doesn't appear that ''clean debate'' is the intent in scope here, given quite a bit of the usual combative, antagonistic and inflammatory accusations invoked in synergy and directed toward other forum usership by the historical purveyors, observably, of that routine in these supposed ''clean debate'' / Zone 1 threads.

I'm reminded of the recently invoked ''misuse of clean debate'' charge in the feedbsck section, since starting these threads in the 'clean debate'' zone and then proceeding to take them in an antithetical direction with such blatantly non-conforming dialogue demonstrates intellectually dishonest intent. And that's not even considering the violations themselves. My goodness. The humorous irony of it all is humorous..

I tell ya. Some people...

Reported.

Do better, please.

Not everyone wants to wallow in mud. Otherwise there's no logic in even maintaining a ''clean debate'' section of the board.

Thanks!


And Rejoice! For He is risen...

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Europeans were just glad that they got rid of them, and the USA didn't want to take them in. Germany due to their guilt history of the Nazis couldn't say anything negative, and aside from the British no one realized that these radical and religious Zionist fanatics would unleash hell in the Middle-east.

Nah... Florida is to humid for them, they are not used to crocodiles and only those who could afford US$ 5 million could visit Mar-el-Lago. Nevada or New Mexico just sounds about right.

Bullshit. The US already took in half the Jews on the planet. Your idiocy is boundless. There are hundreds of countries in the world, none of which made any offers to take them in, but you clown snivel as if only the US is obligated to about all of the world's unwanted masses. They wouldn't have gone to Israel if the asshole Poles and Ukrainians had let them return home instead of murdering them when they left the camps and tried to return. Two years after the war was over, and still in camps? Yeah they were tired of it by then. The Arabs certainly weren't selfless hippies, just feral savage bandits, and pro-Nazi to boot. **** you and your fake scumbag stories.

 

[Kruska]

Bullshit. The US already took in half the Jews on the planet. Your idiocy is boundless. There are hundreds of countries in the world, none of which made any offers to take them in, but you clown snivel as if only the US is obligated to about all of the world's unwanted masses. They wouldn't have gone to Israel if the asshole Poles and Ukrainians had let them return home instead of murdering them when they left the camps and tried to return. Two years after the war was over, and still in camps? Yeah they were tired of it by then. The Arabs certainly weren't selfless hippies, just feral savage bandits, and pro-Nazi to boot. **** you and your fake scumbag stories.

Bullshit: you and your Zionist crap.

Between 1945 and July 1, 1948, the United States admitted approximately a mere 35,000 to 40,000 Jewish displaced persons (DPs) and Holocaust survivors under the Truman Directive. Out of around 300,000 Jewish DP's.

NO ONE wanted them, and the MAIN criteria for those countries that took in Jewish DP's was - are they able to perform manual labor. !!
Americans couldn't be bothered about Jews - it was more or less solely American Jews that lobbied for their kind.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Hm. Doesn't appear that ''clean debate'' is the intent in scope here, given quite a bit of the usual combative, antagonistic and inflammatory accusations invoked in synergy and directed toward other forum usership by the historical purveyors, observably, of that routine in these supposed ''clean debate'' / Zone 1 threads.

I'm reminded of the recently invoked ''misuse of clean debate'' charge in the feedbsck section, since starting these threads in the 'clean debate'' zone and then proceeding to take them in an antithetical direction with such blatantly non-conforming dialogue demonstrates intellectually dishonest intent. And that's not even considering the violations themselves. My goodness. The humorous irony of it all is humorous..

I tell ya. Some people...

Reported.

Do better, please.

Not everyone wants to wallow in mud. Otherwise there's no logic in even maintaining a ''clean debate'' section of the board.

Thanks!


And Rejoice! For He is risen...

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Yes, you are reporting postings left and right hoping to establish yourself as a force to be reckoned with.

Meanwhile the ethnic hatred in this very thread is in violation of the actual stated rules for clean debate.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Yes, you are reporting postings left and right hoping to establish yourself as a force to be reckoned with.

Meanwhile this very thread is in violation of the actual stated rules for clean debate.

No, huh uh. Was just interested in reading the thread as I flipped through the boards this evening, but unfortunately it degraded and was taken in the same direction as is often the case with a couple of you and didn't live up to the description of the ''Clean Debate'' zone. Note even a little bit.

And don't make me ehsplain myself again, please. At least I tell you to your face rather than sneak around and report the fruit of what is observably your usual gambit. That's how I do.

But now I'm not even interested in the thread anymore. Very off-putting dialogue for a ''Clean Debate'' thread. You and the other one ruined it for me.

As I said, I tell ya. Some people...

 

[Dogmaphobe]

No, huh uh. Was just interested in reading the thread as I flipped through the boards this evening, but unfortunately it degraded and was taken in the same direction as is often the case with a couple of you and didn't live up to the description of the ''Clean Debate'' zone. Note even a little bit.

And donlt make me ehspaine myself again, please. At least I tell you to your face rather than sneak around and reoprt the fruit of what is observably your usual gambit.

But now I'm not even interested in the thread anymore. Very off-putting for a ''Clean Debate'' thread.

As I said, I tell ya. Some people...

You show your disinterest by posting repeatedly in this thread hoping to censor people, yes.

 

[Natural Citizen]

You show your disinterest by posting repeatedly in this thread hoping to censor people, yes.

No, huh uh.

That was my first and only post in this thrread.

So you're not being very honest.

Now I'm just responding back to you since you seem to be wanting to look for some.

If the thread gets bounced downstairs I can certainly oblige you there if that's your angle, but not chasing your ball here. Or anywhere for that matter, but that's beside the point.

As I said, I happened to be browsing the board in the interest of some ''clean debate'' and I just clicked on that thread.

Don't you read good?

And why would I have any interest in censoring you? I want you to keep demonstrating yourself.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

And why would I have any interest in censoring you?

Control and intimidation of those who do not share your hatred of Jews.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Control and intimidation of those who do not share your hatred of Jews.

Reported. Again. That sort of dialogue not only lacks any factual basis but it is blatantly inappropriate for ''Clean Debate'' Zone 1 threads. You seem to got issues with that, man, respectfully speaking.

Ah well. Enjoy the rest of your evening. I'm bailing on this one. As I said, very off-putting, the observably recurring direction it went.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Reported. Again. That sort of dialogue not only lacks any factual basis, but it is blatantly inappropriate for ''Clean Debate'' Zone 1 threads. You seem to got issues with that, man, respectfully speaking.

Ah well. Enjoy the rest of your evening. I'm bailing n ths one. As I said, very off-putting, the observably recurring direction it went.

You are totally working it and are proving that my comments have been spot on.

 

[Natural Citizen]

You are totally working it and are proving that my comments have been spot on.

Hey, man, whatever helps you sleep better...

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Hey, man, whatever helps you sleep better...

You said you were leaving.

I guess not.

 

[Robert W]

Bullshit: you and your Zionist crap.

Between 1945 and July 1, 1948, the United States admitted approximately a mere 35,000 to 40,000 Jewish displaced persons (DPs) and Holocaust survivors under the Truman Directive. Out of around 300,000 Jewish DP's.

NO ONE wanted them, and the MAIN criteria for those countries that took in Jewish DP's was - are they able to perform manual labor. !!
Americans couldn't be bothered about Jews - it was more or less solely American Jews that lobbied for their kind.

As I reported, Russia allowed Jews to escape. I can name names in fact. But the Democrats in America shunned the Jews for years as you said yourself.

 

[Kruska]

As I reported, Russia allowed Jews to escape. I can name names in fact. But the Democrats in America shunned the Jews for years as you said yourself.

You and your constant one sided blaming of Democrats for everything - booooring and false as well.

Russia allowed for Jews to escape okay, and who was willing to take them??

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Bullshit: you and your Zionist crap.

Between 1945 and July 1, 1948, the United States admitted approximately a mere 35,000 to 40,000 Jewish displaced persons (DPs) and Holocaust survivors under the Truman Directive. Out of around 300,000 Jewish DP's.

NO ONE wanted them, and the MAIN criteria for those countries that took in Jewish DP's was - are they able to perform manual labor. !!
Americans couldn't be bothered about Jews - it was more or less solely American Jews that lobbied for their kind.

More idiot bullshit. The US took in over 2,000,000 Jews from 1880 to 1920, and over 10% of the DPs. We increased the quota of Jews from Europe before and after WW II allowed by law under the US immigration moratorium passed in 1924 on top of that. Over 110,000 Jews came in from the 1930's to 1941, in spite of the Great Depression, out of the total allowed of all immigration of 153,000.

Out of 3,000,000 Polish Jews ...

https://www.yadvashem.org/articles/academic/the-renewal-of-jewish-life-in-poland.html

Following Operation Barbarossa, numerous atrocities were carried out in the territories formerly occupied by the Soviets, some of them with help from Poles themselves as in the case of the massacre in Jedwabne in which some 300 Jewish citizens of Jedwabne were burned alive in a barn (Institute of National Remembrance: Final Findings). The Polish participation in massacres of the Polish Jewish community remains a controversial subject, in part due to the Jewish leaders refusing to allow the remains of the Jewish victims to be exhumed and their cause of death to be properly established. The Polish Institute for National Remembrance identified other pogroms similar to Jedwabne. The reasons for these massacres are still debated, but they included resentment over the cooperation with the Soviet invaders and prior collaboration in the Polish-Soviet War and the 1939 invasion of the Kresy regions, not to mention coercion by the Nazis to participate in German massacres.

...

Postwar Poland was a chaotic country in which pro-Soviet communists and patriotic nationalists fought each other. Hundreds of Jews were murdered in anti-Jewish violence, including numerous functionaries of the new Stalinist regime.In the Kielce pogrom of 1946, thirty-seven Jews were brutally murdered. Until today the debate in Poland continues about the inferred evidence of the Soviet NKVD provocation and the presence of Russian soldiers in the killings. Between 1945 and 1948, 100,000–120,000 Jews left Poland. Their departure was largely organized by the Zionist activists in Poland such as Adolf Berman and Icchak Cukierman under the umbrella of a semi-clandestine, tolerated by the government of Poland, organization Berihah ("Flight"). Berman's brother Jakub supervised security forces, so he was one of the most influential people in Poland. Berihah was also responsible for the organized emigration of Jews from Romania, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Yugoslavia totaling 250,000 (including Poland) Holocaust survivors.

A second wave of Jewish emigration (50,000) took place during the liberalization of the Communist regime between 1957 and 1959. Then there was the third major wave of emigration, which one might call an expulsion of Jews, in 1968–1969. Thereafter almost all Jews who decided to stay in Poland "stopped" being Jewish.

History of the Jews in 20th-century Poland - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

To stay in Poland was just another holocaust waiting to happen. Screw Poland. The US has taken in far more if its share of all DPs of all nationalities than any other country.

We even let you in. We probably need to change that.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Relations between Nazi Germany and the Arab world - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Nazi perception of Arabs​

Further information: Nazi racial theories § Arabs
In private, Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler were recorded making complimentary statements about Islam as both a religion and a political ideology, describing it as a more disciplined, militaristic, political, and practical form of religion than Christianity is, and commending what they perceived were Muhammad’s skills in politics and military leadership. Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers […] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world.

An exchange occurred when Hitler received Saudi Arabian ruler Ibn Saud's special envoy, Khalid al-Hud. Earlier in this meeting, Hitler claimed that one of the three reasons why Nazi Germany had some interest in the Arabs was:

[…] because we were jointly fighting the Jews. This led him to discuss Palestine and the conditions there, and he then stated that he himself would not rest until the last Jew had left Germany. Khalid Al Hud observed that the Prophet Mohammed [...] had acted the same way. He had driven the Jews out of Arabia [...]

Despite the Nazi racial theory, which denigrated Arabs as racially inferior, individual Arabs who assisted the Third Reich by fighting against the Allies were treated with dignity and respect. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al-Husseini, for example, "was granted honorary Aryan" status by the Nazis for his close collaboration with Hitler and the Third Reich. After a meeting with al-Husseini, Hitler remarked:

With his blonde hair and blue eyes, he gives the impression, despite his shrew-like face, of a man whose ancestors were more likely to have been Aryans, and who perhaps is descended from the best Roman blood...In sheer intelligence he almost comes close to the Japanese."

Goebbels wrote in his diary regarding al-Husseini:

"The Führer has the same impression of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem as I have. He considers him to be a descendant of the crusaders, and he also looks like one ... This Grand Mufti makes a very good impression on me. One might almost believe that it is about his completely Nordic appearance."

The Mufti was the major leader of the Palestinian squatters .

Much of the rest of the article is a weak attempt at making apologia for Arab cretinism, along with a few more relevant facts mixed in among the weird 'Good Arab' and 'only a few bad Arabs' fantasies typical of leftist lying.

 

[JoeB131]

He’s one of the worst antisemites on this forum, blaming everything on Da Jooz.

And then he screams about the evils of bigotry. (Against blacks, that is.)

He’s the single worst example of an antisemitic, hypocritical leftist here.

Religion isn't a race.

If your religion says, "It's okay for us to steal someone else's land and oppress them, and then genocide them when they fight back", that's not a racial issue, it's a religious issue.

I think that account may be shared

Wow, really, what do you base that on?

Several people using the same writing style and talking about the same issues for um, what reason, exactly?

Mind you, even though I have nearly 200,000 posts here over 15 years, people keep making assumptions about me that are wrong.

I've been accused of being black, gay, Jewish (yes, really), ex-Mormon, ex-Catholic, Muslim, a Chinese spy, a Russian troll, and about everything else under the sun.

Nope. I'm just Joe from Chicago.