The Greater Israel Theory is an Antisemitic Myth

the poster agreed that in Iran, there are different laws and limitations for minorities based on their ethnic identity. That's apartheid. You can try to ignore it also if you want.
No, this is Apartheid.

The key tool Israel uses to implement the principle of Jewish supremacy is engineering space geographically, demographically and politically. Jews go about their lives in a single, contiguous space where they enjoy full rights and self-determination. In contrast, Palestinians live in a space that is fragmented into several units, each with a different set of rights – given or denied by Israel, but always inferior to the rights accorded to Jews.

The Israeli regime pursues this organizing principle in four major areas:

  • Land – Israel works to Judaize the entire area, treating land as a resource chiefly meant to benefit the Jewish population. Since 1948, Israel has taken over 90% of the land within the Green Line and built hundreds of communities for the Jewish population. Since 1967, Israel has also enacted this policy in the West Bank, building more than 280 settlements for some 600,000 Jewish Israeli citizens. Israel has not built a single community for the Palestinian population in the entire area stretching from the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River (with the exception of several communities built to concentrate the Bedouin population after dispossessing them of most of their property rights).
  • Citizenship – Jews living anywhere in the world, their children and grandchildren – and their spouses – are entitled to Israeli citizenship. In contrast, Palestinians cannot immigrate to Israeli-controlled areas, even if they, their parents or their grandparents were born and lived there. Israel makes it difficult for Palestinians who live in one of the units it controls to obtain status in another, and has enacted legislation that prohibits granting Palestinians who marry Israelis status within the Green Line.
  • Freedom of movement – Israeli citizens enjoy freedom of movement in the entire area controlled by Israel (with the exception of the Gaza Strip) and may enter and leave the country freely. Palestinian subjects, on the other hand, require a special Israeli-issued permit to travel between the units (and sometimes inside them), and exit abroad also requires Israeli approval.
  • Political participation – Palestinian citizens of Israel may vote and run for office, but leading politicians consistently undermine the legitimacy of Palestinian political representatives. The roughly five million Palestinians who live in the Occupied Territories, including East Jerusalem, cannot participate in the political system that governs their lives and determines their future. They are denied other political rights as well, including freedom of speech and association.
 
I didn't agree to anything, so there's that.

Iran is a majority Persian Nation, but other minorities are represented in their elected parliament.

Unlike the Occupied Territories of the Zionist Entity.
Outright LIE by the Jew-hater.
 
can't answer the question I notice. Your anger makes you weak.
Honey, your question was more than noted. You cannot be taken serious when you start posting bullshit from the "NGO Monitor". I mean do some homework.
 
The roughly five million Palestinians who live in the Occupied Territories, including East Jerusalem, cannot participate in the political system that governs their lives and determines their future. They are denied other political rights as well, including freedom of speech and association.
are they citizens of Israel? If not, why would they be allowed to vote?

And are there any Israeli citizens of Palestine?

and you are still ignoring the apartheid in Iran.
 
Honey, your question was more than noted. You cannot be taken serious when you start posting bullshit from the "NGO Monitor". I mean do some homework.
so you arbitrarily decide that one source is reputable and another isn't. How convenient. Someday, you might even look at the content. Good luck with that.
 
Let's try this again -- you acknowledge that in Iran, non-Muslims are blocked from holding certain jobs or positions in politics.

"Like other religious minorities in Iran, Jews face certain restrictions, including limitations on holding some senior government or military positions. "

This is apartheid. But you don't want to address that. Why?
You are attempting to broaden the definition of Apartheid.

the prohibition of mixed marriages, banning a specific racial or ethnic group from access to certain meetings and unions, and the restriction of movement, prohibiting access to certain public spaces.

You are claiming that banning Jews from certain government jobs is Apartheid. It is not, because they still have access to those government services. Like their Congress, their Constitution actually guarantees a seat for Persian Jews, guaranteed representation. But as my previously linked article documents, Israel primarily practices Apartheid through the control of movement, through land.
 
You are attempting to broaden the definition of Apartheid.

the prohibition of mixed marriages, banning a specific racial or ethnic group from access to certain meetings and unions, and the restriction of movement, prohibiting access to certain public spaces.

You are claiming that banning Jews from certain government jobs is Apartheid. It is not, because they still have access to those government services. Like their Congress, their Constitution actually guarantees a seat for Persian Jews, guaranteed representation. But as my previously linked article documents, Israel primarily practices Apartheid through the control of movement, through land.
so, just to clarify your position, you don't feel that limiting what jobs certain groups are allowed to have based on ethnicity is NOT apartheid?

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: racial segregation
specifically : a former policy of segregation and political, social, and economic discrimination against the non-white majority in the Republic of South Africa
Note: The extreme racial segregation of apartheid lasted from 1948 to 1994 and included such restrictions as where people of certain races (see race entry 1 sense 1a) could live or own land, what jobs they could hold, and who could and couldn't participate in government."
 
You are a flipping moron. No Jew lives in Gaza now you fawkin dope, they have not since 2005. Now, I am quite sure you could move there if you like. Doubt there are any barriers.
One way to make sure a future State of Palestine is not an apartheid state is to ethnically cleanse it of all its Jews and refuse citizenship to Jews.
And yes, if Palestine is created there will certainly be a place for Judaism, just as in the past.
Wait. You said the future State of Palestine will have zero Jews. Which is it? Make it make sense.
 
Jews go about their lives in a single, contiguous space where they enjoy full rights and self-determination. In contrast, Palestinians live in a space that is fragmented into several units, each with a different set of rights
You really must correct your terminology because the use of incorrect terminology is painting a false picture. You are (deliberately?) conflating ethnicity with citizenship so you can claim rights based on "Jewishness" rather than what it really is - rights based on citizenship, same as everywhere else in the world. The spaces that you outline above are delineated by citizenship, not by ethnicity.

"Jews", "Arabs" are references to ethnicity. "Israeli", "Palestinian" are references to nationality (citizenship).

Both Jewish Israelis and Arab Israelis have full rights and self-determination in Israel.

Arab Palestinians have full rights and self-determination in Palestine (Areas A and B).

Arab Palestinians have full rights and self-determination of Palestine but live in territory controlled by Israel (Area C.)

There are no Jewish Palestinians (Nothing in Palestinian law at the moment prohibits Jewish citizenship in Palestine as long as the Jew in question does not hold Israeli citizenship. Those with Israeli citizenship (Jewish and Arab) are prohibited from holding or obtaining citizenship of Palestine.)

Lack of contiguity is certainly an inconvenience. But no where else in the world would it be considered apartheid. The US isn't contiguous.
– given or denied by Israel,
Israel does not give or deny rights of citizens of Palestine, within Palestine. Citizens of Palestine are governed by the laws of Palestine.

Area C is far more complicated, without doubt. But that doesn't make it apartheid. The solutions have been rejected by Palestine and Palestinians. So...
 
You really must correct your terminology because the use of incorrect terminology is painting a false picture. You are (deliberately?) conflating ethnicity with citizenship so you can claim rights based on "Jewishness" rather than what it really is - rights based on citizenship, same as everywhere else in the world. The spaces that you outline above are delineated by citizenship, not by ethnicity.

"Jews", "Arabs" are references to ethnicity. "Israeli", "Palestinian" are references to nationality (citizenship).

Both Jewish Israelis and Arab Israelis have full rights and self-determination in Israel.

Arab Palestinians have full rights and self-determination in Palestine (Areas A and B).

Arab Palestinians have full rights and self-determination of Palestine but live in territory controlled by Israel (Area C.)

There are no Jewish Palestinians (Nothing in Palestinian law at the moment prohibits Jewish citizenship in Palestine as long as the Jew in question does not hold Israeli citizenship. Those with Israeli citizenship (Jewish and Arab) are prohibited from holding or obtaining citizenship of Palestine.)

Lack of contiguity is certainly an inconvenience. But no where else in the world would it be considered apartheid. The US isn't contiguous.

Israel does not give or deny rights of citizens of Palestine, within Palestine. Citizens of Palestine are governed by the laws of Palestine.

Area C is far more complicated, without doubt. But that doesn't make it apartheid. The solutions have been rejected by Palestine and Palestinians. So...
The Zionist apartheid regime needs you. Think of the benefits.
 
You really must correct your terminology because the use of incorrect terminology is painting a false picture. You are (deliberately?) conflating ethnicity with citizenship so you can claim rights based on "Jewishness" rather than what it really is - rights based on citizenship, same as everywhere else in the world. The spaces that you outline above are delineated by citizenship, not by ethnicity.

"Jews", "Arabs" are references to ethnicity. "Israeli", "Palestinian" are references to nationality (citizenship).

Both Jewish Israelis and Arab Israelis have full rights and self-determination in Israel.

Arab Palestinians have full rights and self-determination in Palestine (Areas A and B).

Arab Palestinians have full rights and self-determination of Palestine but live in territory controlled by Israel (Area C.)

There are no Jewish Palestinians (Nothing in Palestinian law at the moment prohibits Jewish citizenship in Palestine as long as the Jew in question does not hold Israeli citizenship. Those with Israeli citizenship (Jewish and Arab) are prohibited from holding or obtaining citizenship of Palestine.)

Lack of contiguity is certainly an inconvenience. But no where else in the world would it be considered apartheid. The US isn't contiguous.

Israel does not give or deny rights of citizens of Palestine, within Palestine. Citizens of Palestine are governed by the laws of Palestine.

Area C is far more complicated, without doubt. But that doesn't make it apartheid. The solutions have been rejected by Palestine and Palestinians. So...
 
are they citizens of Israel? If not, why would they be allowed to vote?

And are there any Israeli citizens of Palestine?

and you are still ignoring the apartheid in Iran.
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You really must correct your terminology because the use of incorrect terminology is painting a false picture. You are (deliberately?) conflating ethnicity with citizenship so you can claim rights based on "Jewishness" rather than what it really is - rights based on citizenship, same as everywhere else in the world. The spaces that you outline above are delineated by citizenship, not by ethnicity.

"Jews", "Arabs" are references to ethnicity. "Israeli", "Palestinian" are references to nationality (citizenship).

Both Jewish Israelis and Arab Israelis have full rights and self-determination in Israel.

Arab Palestinians have full rights and self-determination in Palestine (Areas A and B).

Arab Palestinians have full rights and self-determination of Palestine but live in territory controlled by Israel (Area C.)

There are no Jewish Palestinians (Nothing in Palestinian law at the moment prohibits Jewish citizenship in Palestine as long as the Jew in question does not hold Israeli citizenship. Those with Israeli citizenship (Jewish and Arab) are prohibited from holding or obtaining citizenship of Palestine.)

Lack of contiguity is certainly an inconvenience. But no where else in the world would it be considered apartheid. The US isn't contiguous.

Israel does not give or deny rights of citizens of Palestine, within Palestine. Citizens of Palestine are governed by the laws of Palestine.

Area C is far more complicated, without doubt. But that doesn't make it apartheid. The solutions have been rejected by Palestine and Palestinians. So...
Look, we can limit the discussion to Palestinians living in Israel who are Israeli citizens. Do they have freedom of movement? Simple question.

And the West Bank is a bit more than complicated. It is a fiasco, the illegal settlements are an ongoing atrocity that cannot be justified. Come on, a third of those settlers are Haredi. I mean it is comical what you are supporting. The settlers are virtually dependent on welfare, the vast majority of them don't strike a lick. What they don't get in welfare, they steal, from the Palestinians. They steal their crops, their life stock, their water supplies. They are locust, there is no doubt. But maybe worst of all, they kill olive trees. Who the hell does that?
 
Look, we can limit the discussion to Palestinians living in Israel who are Israeli citizens. Do they have freedom of movement? Simple question.
Yes. Arab Israelis can freely move within Israel. Some of them, especially in Hebron, can even travel to Palestine-controlled territory without any fuss.
And the West Bank is a bit more than complicated.
Yes, it is significantly more complicated in Areas A, B, and C especially. Thank for acknowledging that using language such as "apartheid" leaves out the nuance of different areas with different complications.
 
To counteract the lie being pushed by antisemites on this thread, I bring up the reasons why the Greater Israel project is being twisted to drive more hostility toward Jews:

1) Israel has always offered land for peace, thus willing to reduce its area, but the Jew-hating Palestinians have always rejected the offers.

2) Any increase in land mass (now currently 0.4% with Arabs taking 99.6%) has been a fraction of a percent and driven by security concerns - not expansion.

3) Those who are claiming Israel’s war on Iran is driven by this “expansion” myth ignore that Israel never had any plans to take any part of Iran.

4) In 1979, Israel returned the entire Sinai Peninsula to Egypt.

5) In 2005, Israel vacated Gaza. (And look at the thanks they got.)


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Who else had "Trump starts war with Iran to fight for Greater Israel" on their Bingo Card?
 

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