The Greater Israel Theory is an Antisemitic Myth

[eagle1462010]

You mean?

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Thats a towel head dummy

 

[Anarchy666]

Both sides of this issue are infested with ******* retards.
I'm sorry, someone had to say it.

 

[sparky]

Don't you folks find it a tad coincidental the dead sea scrolls surfaced just when Israel came to be?

~S~

 

[Churchill]

You know this only works when you assume evil intent on the part of Israelis (Jews)

Forcing communities out of their homes and towns and demolishing their infrastructure is evil. If one million Jews were being "evacuated" from their homes by non-Jewish soldiers for their own safety you'd be applauding that? Nope, you'd be screaming "antisemites!".

and completely ignore the unlawful aggression by the Hezbollah terrorists.

Which law? international law? the law that Israel violates daily with impunity?

I'll ask you too. Are you in favour of terrorism, or do you just deny it?

I'm not in favor of anything that violates international law.

 

[Shusha]

Which law? international law?

I'm not in favor of anything that violates international law.

Great. So, you agree that Hezbollah's terrorist aggression against Israel is in violation of international law, yes?

 

[Churchill]

Thats a towel head dummy

No it's not, its not called that, try again dipshit. Women can wear whatever they want. leave people alone just because they are different to you.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Today, about 90% of Palestinian citizens of Israel live in 139 densely populated towns and villages in the Galilee and Triangle regions in northern Israel and the Negev/Naqab region in the south. The remaining 10% live in “mixed cities”, including Haifa, Ramla, Lod, Jaffa and Acre. As will be seen below, this has been the result of deliberate policies by the government of Israel to segregate Palestinian citizens of Israel into enclaves as part of the wider goal of ensuring the Jewish settlement and control of as much of Israel’s territory as possible.

Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians: Cruel system of domination and crime against humanity - Amnesty International

Amnesty International has analysed Israel’s intent to create and maintain a system of oppression and domination over Palestinians and examined its key components: territorial fragmentation; segregation and control; dispossession of land and property; and denial of economic and social rights. It...

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Still more nonsense. All Israeli citizens, Jewish or Arab, are free to live and work anywhere in Israel. Even Arabs who are residents of Israel, equivalent to US green card holders are free to live and work anywhere in Israel.

Clearly, there is no rational basis for claiming Israel is an apartheid state.

 

[JoeB131]

It is a one-sided, villifying story to make the Jews look evil and devious while ignoring the heinous teachings and actions of Muslims.

Um, anything heinous about Islam (or Christianity, for that matter), it inherited from the Jews.

 

[Churchill]

Great. So, you agree that Hezbollah's terrorist aggression against Israel is in violation of international law, yes?

Violently thwarting Israeli terrorists who are invading Lebanon and bombing their towns and forcing people to leave? No, I don't regard that as terrorism anymore than I'd regard the French resistance fighting invading Nazis in WW2 as terrorism, it's the rightful resistance to foreign occupiers.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Don't you folks find it a tad coincidental the dead sea scrolls surfaced just when Israel came to be?

~S~

To say it is coincidental is to say there is no apparent connection.

 

[Shusha]

Resisting Israelis terrorists who are invading Lebanon and bombing their towns and forcing people to leave? No, I don't regard that as terrorism anymore than I'd regard the French resistance in WW2 as terrorism, it's the rightful resistance to foreign occupiers.

Again, you are starting with the defense, instead of the aggression. Again, do you support terrorism or deny it?

 

[Churchill]

Again, you are starting with the defense, instead of the aggression. Again, do you support terrorism or deny it?

I'm not in favor of anything that violates international law, I said this already, are you not following?

Violently resisting foreign invaders is not classified as terrorism, it is not a crime under international law, foreign soldier coming down my street telling me to leave will be resisted.

 

[Churchill]

Don't bite the hand that feeds you Netanyahu:

 

[Shusha]

I'm not in favor of anything that violates international law, I said this already, are you not following?

I'm following all your dodges. Hezbollah has fired over 14,000 rockets into Israel. Hezbollah has built tunnels and other military infrastructure along the border with Israel and has used that military infrastructure to invade Israel and otherwise violate Israel's territorial integrity, political independence, and sovereignty.

Do you deny that these acts are violations of international law?

 

[Churchill]

I'm following all your dodges. Hezbollah has fired over 14,000 rockets into Israel. Hezbollah has built tunnels and other military infrastructure along the border with Israel and has used that military infrastructure to invade Israel and otherwise violate Israel's territorial integrity, political independence, and sovereignty.

Yes, so we have a situation where how does one deal with a local racist superpower that violates international law, but is free to do so because the United States always vetos resolutions intended to compel that local superpower to desist?

Do you deny that these acts are violations of international law?

Yes, they may very well be violations, but if the system of enforcing that law is not equitable what is one to do?

 

[Churchill]

Shusha - Here is a Jew I suggest you read or watch, Franz Kafka, it is all about the law...

 

[Shusha]

Yes, they may very well be, but if the system of enforcing that law is not equitable what is one to do?

I'd argue that if the international community is not able to take effective action against cross-border terrorist violations of international law (waves in Irish at UNFIL), then the State experiencing those violations has a right to defend itself using military force. I would love to have further conversations with informed people about whether Israel's actions are the correct ones, but we can't GET there until you all stop denying that terrorist acts have been committed against Israel in violation of international law (or stop your support for them because ... reasons/Jooos.)

 

[Winston]

The "right of return" does not fall under the definition of "apartheid". Apartheid is specifically an system of legal discrimination for citizens of the State based on race (ethnicity).

There is no such thing as a "right of return". Every State has the right to its formulate and enforce its own immigration policies. Many, many States have immigration policies which preference the ethnic group indigenous to that homeland. Israel is no different. Your two provided examples are, at best, exaggerations.

As contrast, please outline the procedure in which a Jew can gain citizenship in the State of Palestine? How many such Jews are there, in Palestine? Can the Jewish wife of a Jewish Palestinian gain citizenship? Will the future State of Palestine be ethnically cleansed of Jews, or will there be a substantial percentage of Jewish citizens of Palestine?

Exaggerations? I present Samuel Sheinbein, eventually convicted for murder in Israel, he avoided extradition to the US. And yes, spouses of Palestinian citizens of Israel are prohibited citizenship. Why? And then get serious. What the hell you talking about citizen of Palestine? Have you turned reality on it's head?

And here is what I can promise you. Every single Jew that is in Palestine will stay there. LMAO, which is precisely ZERO.

 

[Shusha]

And here is what I can promise you. Every single Jew that is in Palestine will stay there. LMAO, which is precisely ZERO.

Wow. Now, THAT is a statement.

So, you are complaining that Arabs don't have access to Israeli citizenship, while proudly declaring that no JEW will ever live in Palestine (let alone obtain citizenship) and proclaim Israel the apartheid State? Rich.

I do also wonder if this means that any territory containing a Jew will be excluded from being part of the State of Palestine.

 

[eagle1462010]

No it's not, its not called that, try again dipshit. Women can wear whatever they want. leave people alone just because they are different to you.

You seem upset. Hit close to the mark hug?