I was there: My perspective on bowe bergdahl

[Lakhota]

Do I need to look up your posts about George Zimmerman?

George Zimmerman? Was he a combat soldier?

No, just a guy presumed innocent until proven guilty. And he was found not guilty by a jury of his peers. Should I look up your posts?

You seem very immature trying to compare apples and oranges. Zimmerman should have been fried. Many would still like to fry him... Even some jurors have had remorse. **** Zimmerman!!!!!

 

[Harry Dresden]

He's either mentally ill or an airhead coward. Either way, he had no business being there.

I agree. He didn't.

But let's ask ourselves WHY he was there. Why was the army sending units full of misfits into a war zone?

Hmmm.

Okay. Maybe, you know, just maybe, it was because after fighting a war for 8 years, the kind of guys who should have been enlisted didn't want to be "the last man to die for a mistake".

If Bush had been serious about this war as anything other than a way to make Dick Cheney and his cronies rich, he would have instituted a draft and raised taxes on the wealthy and did all the things you so when you want to win a war. YOu know, like FDR did in WWI.

Instead, he let it drag on for 8 years, and by 2008, one out of five new enlistees in the Army were getting some kind of waiver on education, vocational background, ASVAB scores or even criminal records.

you forgot one of these Joe....I....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Bowe Bergdahl discharged from Coast Guard prior to Army service - CBS News

Bergdahl's writings reveal a fragile young man - The Washington Post

Would you wingnuts like to execute a mentally ill soldier? Yeah, probably...

just because someone disagrees with you numbnuts.....doesnt mean they are a "wingnut"....

 

[Harry Dresden]

I'm just trying to play your sick little game of prejudging him.

Horseshit.

Yep, that's what I call it.

you should know you step in it enough around here.....

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Geezus H. Kryst, at least wait for the final mental/physical examinations/evaluations before rendering your G.I. Joe bullshit analysis. I also have serious doubts that you were there...

His mental/physical examinations my end up mitigating his punishment but they do not change the facts of what he did. I am not positive of what he did but even if part of what is reported is true then he indeed is guilty of something.

Possibly, but reportedly he was having psychological problems in the Coast Guard and quickly discharged before the Army took him.

Reportedly?

Funny how you always see reports that no one else has seen. The only thing the Coast Guard has said is that he was discharged without evaluation after less than month in boot. They won't say anything else even if they know more because it would be covered under privacy laws, so feel free to speculate without facts, you seem to enjoy it when it makes Obama look good.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

George Zimmerman? Was he a combat soldier?

No, just a guy presumed innocent until proven guilty. And he was found not guilty by a jury of his peers. Should I look up your posts?

You seem very immature trying to compare apples and oranges. Zimmerman should have been fried. Many would still like to fry him... Even some jurors have had remorse. **** Zimmerman!!!!!

Guilty until proven innocent, unless Obama is involved. Got it.

 

[Nutz]

He left his post. He was captured by the enemy. He is no hero. I judge him as a *****, but I will wait for the facts before I convict him of any crime.

 

[hipeter924]

When a soldier deserts his post, when he writes that he is ashamed to be an American, when he gives the enemy secrets (and he did), he is no longer “one of us”. He is a traitor. He is not a brother-in-arms.

Unfortunately true. There is a reason why people can't understand what Bergdahl is, at one moment you want to feel sorry for him because he went out of his mind over there, but the next you have to be disturbed about what he has done and the example he sets.

 

[Synthaholic]

So the only relevant evidence is his testimony?

No.

What's your rush to brand him a deserter?

No rush. Just stating the obvious.

What do you think is obvious?

 

[Synthaholic]

I served my 20. I didn't walk away when it got hard. I didn't walk away when I didn't like the job. Bergdahl doesn't deserve respect. Obama doesn't deserve respect for freeing 5 high-level terrorists.

^^^ Doesn't know his al Qaeda from his Taliban.

^^^ Can't help but be a dumbass.

President Obama Trades Al Qaeda-Linked Taliban Leaders For Release of American Soldier | JONATHAN TURLEY

The five men released are considered highly dangerous. Khirullah Said Wali Khairkhwa and Abdul Haq Wasiq are classified as a “high risk” to the United States. Two others, Mohammad Fazl and Mullah Norullah Mori, were present during the 2001 prison riot at Mazar-e Sharif when CIA paramilitary officer Johnny Micheal Spann was killed. Fazl is thought to be the Taliban “army chief of staff”) and a longtime al-Qaeda ally. Wasiq reportedly helped train al-Qaeda. Mullah Norullah Noori, a senior military commander also reportedly have ties with al-Qaeda. Khairullah Khairkhwa, a Taliban governor was also allegedly an al-Qaeda trainer. One is believed to be responsible for the deaths of scores of Shiites in acts of religious terror.​

^^^ Thinks "dangerous" and "terrorist" are interchangeable.

 

[Synthaholic]

YAWN
left-wing losers have a million conspiracy theories they cant back up with facts

If I thought you could comprehend I would paste the links again. But you're a retard.

Ahhh, the old "Why should I bother?" ploy. You know, the one you give me shit for using.

I guess it's different...somehow...it just is!!...when you do it, huh?

I'm sorry, did I not supply a link you asked for?

Or are you the USMB advocate for retards these days?

 

[Synthaholic]

What if Bergdahl has some real mental problems - before, during and after his capture by the Taliban?

Would you assholes still want to hang him for treason?

If he had mental problems, how did he get into the military?

 

[Synthaholic]

Yeah, no one is afraid of the stigma of going on record as having mental problems. I wonder why so many suicides...

Yes, because the stigma of being regarded as a deserter and traitor is a minor inconvenience.

Seriously, you aren't that ******* stupid - are you?

Troops still wary of admitting mental health problems

Lakhota, meet daveman.

 

[Synthaholic]

Do I need to look up your posts about George Zimmerman?

George Zimmerman? Was he a combat soldier?

No, just a guy presumed innocent until proven guilty. And he was found not guilty by a jury of his peers. Should I look up your posts?

Wouldn't it be more revealing to look up your posts?

So you're using someone else's behaviour in threads from a year ago to justify your behaviour today? Even though you mocked that behaviour back then?

Please continue.

 

[Interpol]

If I remember correctly, the Bush administration released a few hundred detainees during its years and got nothing back for it.

But now the scandal is that we released 5 in exchange for 1 POW who got disillusioned with the war at like the age of 22?

Considering how fucked up that war was, how many times we kept redeploying people (record amounts compared to any other war in US history) and that many people joined the military because they responded to the message that our people would go over there to "win hearts and minds", I can cut a young guy some slack for becoming a totally bi-polar mess at the thought that he was put in a bad situation without the proper training or discipline, was not ever put in situations with clear and winnable objectives.

If you totally mess up your conduct of the war from the top, you're going to see it reflected at the bottom with erratic wartime behavior. Pretty simple.

If you believe this is a Christian nation, than the right thing to do is to lend a kid some forgiveness, get him some help, and then see what his mental state is before you make ignorant accusations based on right-wing blogs.

 

[Meathead]

Only an idiot or a desperate politician would have released those dangerous cocksukers. What Obama sacrificed for a photo-op has turned into a veritable Taliban PR coup and a slap in the face to those Americans who served honorably in Afghanistan.

 

[Theowl32]

Liberals are so stupid they still think Zimmerman was guilty, regardless of the physical evidence and eyewitness testimony.

They still believe BSNBC tapes were not deliberately doctored? Hell, they are so stupid that they still believe democrats did not propagate the existence of wmds in Iraq before Bush took office. They certainly are stupid enough to not understand what the paradigm shift was in this country's foreign policy post 911 in regards to terror sponsored nations and perceived threats abroad considering what we had seen 19 men did WITH OUT A GUN (damn the liberals wish they used guns purchased by legal means......damn they wish that.)

Then again we are talking about voters like KNB who is so ******* stupid that he voted for Obama the first time, then voted for him a second time and actually brags about it. No, there is no classification for the level of stupidity that is. At least there is no word in English to describe it.

It is funny though, and every day I am not disappointed. Each day I come on here to read ignorant blather from typical left wing pigs that is hypocritical. It makes me laugh disrespectfully at liberals thinking they are oh so smart.

 

[Theowl32]

If I remember correctly, the Bush administration released a few hundred detainees during its years and got nothing back for it.

But now the scandal is that we released 5 in exchange for 1 POW who got disillusioned with the war at like the age of 22?

Considering how fucked up that war was, how many times we kept redeploying people (record amounts compared to any other war in US history) and that many people joined the military because they responded to the message that our people would go over there to "win hearts and minds", I can cut a young guy some slack for becoming a totally bi-polar mess at the thought that he was put in a bad situation without the proper training or discipline, was not ever put in situations with clear and winnable objectives.

If you totally mess up your conduct of the war from the top, you're going to see it reflected at the bottom with erratic wartime behavior. Pretty simple.

If you believe this is a Christian nation, than the right thing to do is to lend a kid some forgiveness, get him some help, and then see what his mental state is before you make ignorant accusations based on right-wing blogs.

Do you believe this is a Christian nation?

Did you cheer when Bush did the liberal thing by releasing those prisoners?

You certainly did not cheer or credit him for his contributions to the planet considering the Blue Water Legacy. I can assure you the main stream media did not report anything about that. Considering it is one of the most significant actions ever made towards the environment, you would think the peacenik tree hugging pussies would credit him. They do not. Same people that blame the Koch brothers for donating 100million dollars to a childrens hospital.

You would think some liberal would care that Bush donated more money to Africa for AIDS relief than all of the other presidents combined. Not only do liberals not know about that, they do not care.

Which leads me to this. Republicans are morons thinking they should do liberals things to placate the morons on the left. The morons the left stand for nothing. They will not credit the republicans for any of those things. Not for freeing the slaves, not for desegregating the schools, not for signing MLK Day as an official holiday, not for granting mass amnesty under Reagan, not for doing for the planet than any liberal has ever dreamed out (since liberals think shitting, *******, and smoking pot in a field for a week at some earth celebration is doing something for the planet.)

Liberals are nothing but people looking to be on the bandwagon. They need to hate republicans, white people and America enough to be invited to the parties and be accepted by their fellow retarded peers. That is about it. Nothing but little puppets of their democrat puppet masters who have a monopoly of the notion of victimology.

It is a complete waste of time to placate such losers like KNB.

 

[JoeB131]

I have read, that he was released from the Coast guard for mental reasons, but when he enlisted in the Army, they took him in?

I haven't verified this yet, but that is what I have read on it...

plus we know he left the base 2 times before this...once his superiors reported it, the second time they didn't, is also what I read in the Military Investigation report, from a few years back...which notes this was a lack of leadership on his superiors, for not reporting the 2nd gone missing episode.

there is plenty of information out there that shows this kid, may not have been just right, upstairs...and honestly, superiors are probably not taught how to recognize this as something mental, and I serious doubt that his immediate superiors were aware of him being released from the coast guard due to mental instability- I doubt Bergdahl would have bragged about it.

So, there are two sides to every story, as usual, and I guess we all will see the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, somewhere down the road.

To be fair, superiors are taught this. In fact, when I went through PLDC in 1989, they spent a entire day on how to recognize when a soldier was becoming suicidal and how to stage an intervention. And Bergdahl seemed to be showing a lot of the signs of a guy who was losing it.

The training should have worked, but it's clear the people didn't.

What are the signs of a guy who is about to desert?

Same ones as the guy who is about to commit suicide. Giving away all of his stuff, being isolated from the rest of the unit, erratic behavior.

 

[JoeB131]

Liberals are so stupid they still think Zimmerman was guilty, regardless of the physical evidence and eyewitness testimony.

They still believe BSNBC tapes were not deliberately doctored? Hell, they are so stupid that they still believe democrats did not propagate the existence of wmds in Iraq before Bush took office. They certainly are stupid enough to not understand what the paradigm shift was in this country's foreign policy post 911 in regards to terror sponsored nations and perceived threats abroad considering what we had seen 19 men did WITH OUT A GUN (damn the liberals wish they used guns purchased by legal means......damn they wish that.)

Then again we are talking about voters like KNB who is so ******* stupid that he voted for Obama the first time, then voted for him a second time and actually brags about it. No, there is no classification for the level of stupidity that is. At least there is no word in English to describe it.

It is funny though, and every day I am not disappointed. Each day I come on here to read ignorant blather from typical left wing pigs that is hypocritical. It makes me laugh disrespectfully at liberals thinking they are oh so smart.

Yeah, the reason I think that Zimmerman is guilty is because Trayvon is dead and Zimmerman shot him.