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RFK died 45 years ago today, June 6th, 1968. The Democratic Convention began in Chicago August 26, 1968.
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I want it back: it was Camelot
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RFK died 45 years ago today, June 6th, 1968. The Democratic Convention began in Chicago August 26, 1968.
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The last night of Camelot
President John F. Kennedy made history the last night of his life.
Kennedy's appearance at the Rice Ballroom in Houston was likely the first time that a president officially acknowledged Latinos as an important voting bloc.
The President had been invited by the League of United Latin American Citizens to its fundraising ball at Houston's historic Rice Hotel.
The President had said he would attend, but the organizers were still surprised and relieved when Jacqueline & John Kennedy walked through the doors.
Jacqueline Kennedy, the President, Vice President Johnson and Lady Bird Johnson all signed the guest book.
First lady Jacqueline Kennedy spoke in Spanish to the delight of those in the room.
"Estoy muy contenta de estar aqui," the First Lady said in Spanish. "I am very happy to be here."
Her speech was received to wild cheers and "Oles," according to those there that night.
HOUSTON —President John F. Kennedy was supposed to just stop by and wave hello.
Instead, a group of eager Latinos persuaded him to come inside and speak to a packed room of Mexican-American civil rights activists. And then he persuaded his wife, first lady Jacqueline Kennedy, to address the crowd in Spanish.
It was Nov. 21, 1963.
Hours later, the president was dead. And his assassination overshadowed the significance of a speech that can be seen as the birth of the Latino vote — which was so instrumental in 2012 in helping re-elect the first black president, Barack Obama.
To historians, Kennedy's appearance at the Rice Ballroom in Houston was likely the first time that a president officially acknowledged Latinos as an important voting bloc.
Read more: President John F. Kennedy's last night recalled as key event for Latinos | Politics - WCVB Home
President John F. Kennedy made history the last night of his life.
Kennedy's appearance at the Rice Ballroom in Houston was likely the first time that a president officially acknowledged Latinos as an important voting bloc.
The President had been invited by the League of United Latin American Citizens to its fundraising ball at Houston's historic Rice Hotel.
The President had said he would attend, but the organizers were still surprised and relieved when Jacqueline & John Kennedy walked through the doors.
Jacqueline Kennedy, the President, Vice President Johnson and Lady Bird Johnson all signed the guest book.
First lady Jacqueline Kennedy spoke in Spanish to the delight of those in the room.
"Estoy muy contenta de estar aqui," the First Lady said in Spanish. "I am very happy to be here."
Her speech was received to wild cheers and "Oles," according to those there that night.
HOUSTON —President John F. Kennedy was supposed to just stop by and wave hello.
Instead, a group of eager Latinos persuaded him to come inside and speak to a packed room of Mexican-American civil rights activists. And then he persuaded his wife, first lady Jacqueline Kennedy, to address the crowd in Spanish.
It was Nov. 21, 1963.
Hours later, the president was dead. And his assassination overshadowed the significance of a speech that can be seen as the birth of the Latino vote — which was so instrumental in 2012 in helping re-elect the first black president, Barack Obama.
To historians, Kennedy's appearance at the Rice Ballroom in Houston was likely the first time that a president officially acknowledged Latinos as an important voting bloc.
Read more: President John F. Kennedy's last night recalled as key event for Latinos | Politics - WCVB Home
Don't you mean the 50's. The 60's were a decade of change for women and black Americans. It was a tumultuous time but it was decade of real change.I want people back that I knew as Democrats. I want good men and women who believed in chasing a dream. I want my liberals back.
I want Camelot not Communist dreams. I want real hope and change not dime store bullies from Chicago.
I want the real deal.
The times were great in the early 60's - if you were white and male at least.
Bfgrn
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Radical tea bagger? YES and no. It all depends on what you believe. teabaggers and Republicans believe if a doctor lancing a boil relieves the pressure, then draining all the patients blood would make them even better.
P@triot
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It's pretty self-explanatory you fucking libtard moron Only the libtard could take something so straight-forward and self-explantory and pretend that there is some dog-whistle hidden meaning that only "enlightened" libtards understand...
(God damn does that have me laughing right now....
)No shit sherlock - it was a call to serve the country, not be a fucking liberal parasite drain on the country. The fact that you "clarify" what it means and still don't get it speaks volumes....
Today's libtard doesn't serve anything except their own greed and laziness...
P@triot
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Can you explain one thing to me, libtard? How exactly is it "theft" not to give someone what was never their's to begin with?
P@triot
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Funny thing about libtards - while they hoard (and I do mean hoard) every penny for themselves and walk around with their "hip" iPhone and "hip" iPad which costs absurd amounts of money, they scream and cry that government force someone else to feed, house, and provide healthcare for those that don't have those items.
Not one of these greedy, lazy little bitches will forgo their iPad to provide a meal for someone who desperately needs it. Not one of these greedy, lazy little bitches will forgo their iPhone to cover a hospital bill for someone who desperately needs it.
You people are an embarrassment to yourselves, your family, your country, and humanity - and that is why John F. Kennedy is rolling over in his grave in disgust that his party has been hijacked by greedy communists/marxists/socialists parasites.
Not one of these greedy, lazy little bitches will forgo their iPad to provide a meal for someone who desperately needs it. Not one of these greedy, lazy little bitches will forgo their iPhone to cover a hospital bill for someone who desperately needs it.
You people are an embarrassment to yourselves, your family, your country, and humanity - and that is why John F. Kennedy is rolling over in his grave in disgust that his party has been hijacked by greedy communists/marxists/socialists parasites.
If JFK was alive today he would be a Republican. The Democrats moved so far to the left he wouldn't recognize the party. An interesting speech to review was Humphrey's speech in LA, sounded more like a Republican than a Democrat by todays standards.
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Only the libtard could take something so straight-forward and self-explantory and pretend that there is some dog-whistle hidden meaning that only "enlightened" libtards understand...
(God damn does that have me laughing right now....
No shit sherlock - it was a call to serve the country, not be a fucking liberal parasite drain on the country. The fact that you "clarify" what it means and still don't get it speaks volumes....
Today's libtard doesn't serve anything except their own greed and laziness...
Do you have any statistics to support you ignorant rant? Or just shear emotions??
Because liberals are neither greedy or lazy.
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you know it was kind of cool when presidents could have affairs and no one really cared. all they had to do was silence the first lady for a million bucks. Heck, the first lady could even go to what was considered X rated porn at the time in a public theater and no one really cared.
P@triot
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Only the libtard could take something so straight-forward and self-explantory and pretend that there is some dog-whistle hidden meaning that only "enlightened" libtards understand...
(God damn does that have me laughing right now....
No shit sherlock - it was a call to serve the country, not be a fucking liberal parasite drain on the country. The fact that you "clarify" what it means and still don't get it speaks volumes....
Today's libtard doesn't serve anything except their own greed and laziness...
Do you have any statistics to support you ignorant rant? Or just shear emotions??
Because liberals are neither greedy or lazy.
Really? Then why do you vote for people who promise you endless programs (free healthcare, free housing, free food, free money, free education, etc.) in exchange for nothing on your part except your vote and the surrender of your rights? Sure as hell sounds like both lazy and greedy to me...
Is that evidence enough dummy? Or do you need more? By the way - please don't project on conservatives. Just because you libtards know NOTHING except shear irrational emotion doesn't mean other people do. We debate, act, and form policy off of facts and rational thought. It's you libtards who eschew all of that in favor of how you feel about issues....
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Really? The President who proposed Medicare? The President who began the War on Poverty?? The President who started a Pilot Food Stamp Program??? The President who expanded unemployment and welfare benefits???? The President who increased the minimum wage????? The President who amended Social Security to permit male workers to elect early retirement age 62, increased minimum benefits, liberalized the benefit payments to aged widow, widower, or surviving dependent parent, and also liberalized eligibility requirements and the retirement test??????
The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.
President John F. Kennedy
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Only the libtard could take something so straight-forward and self-explantory and pretend that there is some dog-whistle hidden meaning that only "enlightened" libtards understand...
(God damn does that have me laughing right now....
No shit sherlock - it was a call to serve the country, not be a fucking liberal parasite drain on the country. The fact that you "clarify" what it means and still don't get it speaks volumes....
Today's libtard doesn't serve anything except their own greed and laziness...
Do you have any statistics to support you ignorant rant? Or just shear emotions??
Because liberals are neither greedy or lazy.
Really? Then why do you vote for people who promise you endless programs (free healthcare, free housing, free food, free money, free education, etc.) in exchange for nothing on your part except your vote and the surrender of your rights? Sure as hell sounds like both lazy and greedy to me...
Is that evidence enough dummy? Or do you need more? By the way - please don't project on conservatives. Just because you libtards know NOTHING except shear irrational emotion doesn't mean other people do. We debate, act, and form policy off of facts and rational thought. It's you libtards who eschew all of that in favor of how you feel about issues....
Sure seems to me YOU are the one projecting and emoting...because the FACTS don't support your ignorance...
Red States Are Welfare Queens
As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red States — the ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut — are a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill.
Take a look at the difference between federal spending on any given state and the federal taxes received from that state. We measure the difference as a dollar amount: Federal Spending per Dollar of Federal Taxes. A figure of $1.00 means that particular state received as much as it paid in to the federal government. Anything over a dollar means the state received more than it paid; anything less than $1.00 means the state paid more in taxes than it received in services. The higher the figure, the more a given state is a welfare queen.
Of the twenty worst states, 16 are either Republican dominated or conservative states. Let's go through the top twenty.
New Mexico: $2.03
Mississippi: $2.02
Alaska: $1.84
Louisiana: $1.78
West Virginia: $1.76
North Dakota: $1.68
Alabama: $1.66
South Dakota: $1.53
Kentucky: $1.51
Virginia: $1.51
Montana: $1.47
Hawaii: $1.44
Maine: $1.41
Arkansas: $1.41
Oklahoma: $1.36
South Carolina: $1.35
Missouri: $1.32
Maryland: $1.30
Tennessee: $1.27
Idaho: $1.21
Does anyone else notice the overwhelming presence of northern "rugged individualist" states, like Alaska, the Dakotas and Montana, along with most of the South? Why it's almost like there's a pattern here or something.
Where can we find liberal bastions California, New York, and Massachusetts? California is 43rd, getting back only $0.78 for every dollar it sends to Washington. New York is 42nd, and one penny better off, at $0.79 per dollar. Massachusetts is 40th, receiving $0.82 for every dollar it sends to DC.
Read more: Red States Are Welfare Queens - Business Insider
Is that evidence enough dummy?
Really? Then why do you vote for people who promise you endless programs (free healthcare, free housing, free food, free money, free education, etc.) in exchange for nothing on your part except your vote and the surrender of your rights? Sure as hell sounds like both lazy and greedy to me...
Is that evidence enough dummy? Or do you need more? By the way - please don't project on conservatives. Just because you libtards know NOTHING except shear irrational emotion doesn't mean other people do. We debate, act, and form policy off of facts and rational thought. It's you libtards who eschew all of that in favor of how you feel about issues....
Sure seems to me YOU are the one projecting and emoting...because the FACTS don't support your ignorance...
Red States Are Welfare Queens
As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red States — the ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut — are a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill.
Take a look at the difference between federal spending on any given state and the federal taxes received from that state. We measure the difference as a dollar amount: Federal Spending per Dollar of Federal Taxes. A figure of $1.00 means that particular state received as much as it paid in to the federal government. Anything over a dollar means the state received more than it paid; anything less than $1.00 means the state paid more in taxes than it received in services. The higher the figure, the more a given state is a welfare queen.
Of the twenty worst states, 16 are either Republican dominated or conservative states. Let's go through the top twenty.
New Mexico: $2.03
Mississippi: $2.02
Alaska: $1.84
Louisiana: $1.78
West Virginia: $1.76
North Dakota: $1.68
Alabama: $1.66
South Dakota: $1.53
Kentucky: $1.51
Virginia: $1.51
Montana: $1.47
Hawaii: $1.44
Maine: $1.41
Arkansas: $1.41
Oklahoma: $1.36
South Carolina: $1.35
Missouri: $1.32
Maryland: $1.30
Tennessee: $1.27
Idaho: $1.21
Does anyone else notice the overwhelming presence of northern "rugged individualist" states, like Alaska, the Dakotas and Montana, along with most of the South? Why it's almost like there's a pattern here or something.
Where can we find liberal bastions California, New York, and Massachusetts? California is 43rd, getting back only $0.78 for every dollar it sends to Washington. New York is 42nd, and one penny better off, at $0.79 per dollar. Massachusetts is 40th, receiving $0.82 for every dollar it sends to DC.
Read more: Red States Are Welfare Queens - Business Insider
Is that evidence enough dummy?
Pretty well sums up the financial plight of the middle class and working man. Blue states have an overwhelming number of wealthy individuals. Lets see how wide that gap between rich, poor, and middle class really is in those blue states?
Bfgrn
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Really? Then why do you vote for people who promise you endless programs (free healthcare, free housing, free food, free money, free education, etc.) in exchange for nothing on your part except your vote and the surrender of your rights? Sure as hell sounds like both lazy and greedy to me...
Is that evidence enough dummy? Or do you need more? By the way - please don't project on conservatives. Just because you libtards know NOTHING except shear irrational emotion doesn't mean other people do. We debate, act, and form policy off of facts and rational thought. It's you libtards who eschew all of that in favor of how you feel about issues....
Sure seems to me YOU are the one projecting and emoting...because the FACTS don't support your ignorance...
Red States Are Welfare Queens
As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red States — the ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut — are a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill.
Take a look at the difference between federal spending on any given state and the federal taxes received from that state. We measure the difference as a dollar amount: Federal Spending per Dollar of Federal Taxes. A figure of $1.00 means that particular state received as much as it paid in to the federal government. Anything over a dollar means the state received more than it paid; anything less than $1.00 means the state paid more in taxes than it received in services. The higher the figure, the more a given state is a welfare queen.
Of the twenty worst states, 16 are either Republican dominated or conservative states. Let's go through the top twenty.
New Mexico: $2.03
Mississippi: $2.02
Alaska: $1.84
Louisiana: $1.78
West Virginia: $1.76
North Dakota: $1.68
Alabama: $1.66
South Dakota: $1.53
Kentucky: $1.51
Virginia: $1.51
Montana: $1.47
Hawaii: $1.44
Maine: $1.41
Arkansas: $1.41
Oklahoma: $1.36
South Carolina: $1.35
Missouri: $1.32
Maryland: $1.30
Tennessee: $1.27
Idaho: $1.21
Does anyone else notice the overwhelming presence of northern "rugged individualist" states, like Alaska, the Dakotas and Montana, along with most of the South? Why it's almost like there's a pattern here or something.
Where can we find liberal bastions California, New York, and Massachusetts? California is 43rd, getting back only $0.78 for every dollar it sends to Washington. New York is 42nd, and one penny better off, at $0.79 per dollar. Massachusetts is 40th, receiving $0.82 for every dollar it sends to DC.
Read more: Red States Are Welfare Queens - Business Insider
Is that evidence enough dummy?
Pretty well sums up the financial plight of the middle class and working man. Blue states have an overwhelming number of wealthy individuals. Lets see how wide that gap between rich, poor, and middle class really is in those blue states?
The gap would be less because blue states spend more state money on social programs. That's one of the reasons they don't need as much federal money.
Harry Dresden
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whoops i fucked that up....thinking of 2 different instances.....got the people mixed up.......sorry..
...ok let me re say this.......in 1967 Phil Ochs was asked to come with RFK on his plane.....Phil told Kennedy that he was getting real disenchanted with the "Elite" of the party....Robert wanted to know why......Phil said he did not like how they treated People......they are Hypercritical.........and according to Ed Sanders who was also on that flight... .Robert was in agreement with him.....that he had seen that too.....and then at the Convention.....they treated the protesters just like Phil said Right Wingers would......it was also said that The Mayor told the Police if need be....Shoot the bastards......this is all documented in the documentary film Phil Ochs: There but for Fortune which i saw on PBS a few months ago.....
"The past isn't dead; it isn't even past." William Faulkner
The past can be anything you want it to be, that is the problem with the past. I think soviet radio pretty much summed up those halcyon days when all was good with the world and even nuclear annihilation seemed so nice. "We cannot predict the future, but the past is changing before our very eyes." Soviet radio reporting on the Politburo’s deliberations
"As an Anglo European white guy from a very long line of white guys, I want to thank all the brown, black, yellow and red people for a marvelous three-century joy ride. During the past 300 years of the industrial age, as Europeans, and later as Americans, we have managed to consume infinitely more than we ever produced, thanks to colonialism, crooked deals with despotic potentates and good old gunboats and grapeshot. Yes, we have lived, and still live, extravagant lifestyles far above the rest of you. And so, my sincere thanks to all of you folks around the world working in sweatshops, or living on two bucks a day, even though you sit on vast oil deposits. And to those outside my window here in Mexico this morning, the two guys pruning the retired gringoes hedges with what look like pocket knives, I say, keep up the good work. It's the world's cheap labor guys like you - the black, brown and yellow folks who take it up the shorts - who make capitalism look like it actually works. So keep on humping. Remember: We've got predator drones." Joe Bageant http://coldtype.net/Assets.10/Pdfs/0710.Joe.Doomsday.pdf
The past can be anything you want it to be, that is the problem with the past. I think soviet radio pretty much summed up those halcyon days when all was good with the world and even nuclear annihilation seemed so nice. "We cannot predict the future, but the past is changing before our very eyes." Soviet radio reporting on the Politburo’s deliberations
"As an Anglo European white guy from a very long line of white guys, I want to thank all the brown, black, yellow and red people for a marvelous three-century joy ride. During the past 300 years of the industrial age, as Europeans, and later as Americans, we have managed to consume infinitely more than we ever produced, thanks to colonialism, crooked deals with despotic potentates and good old gunboats and grapeshot. Yes, we have lived, and still live, extravagant lifestyles far above the rest of you. And so, my sincere thanks to all of you folks around the world working in sweatshops, or living on two bucks a day, even though you sit on vast oil deposits. And to those outside my window here in Mexico this morning, the two guys pruning the retired gringoes hedges with what look like pocket knives, I say, keep up the good work. It's the world's cheap labor guys like you - the black, brown and yellow folks who take it up the shorts - who make capitalism look like it actually works. So keep on humping. Remember: We've got predator drones." Joe Bageant http://coldtype.net/Assets.10/Pdfs/0710.Joe.Doomsday.pdf
Harry Dresden
Adamantium Member
does posting in BIG BOLD LETTERSmake a difference?....just askin....
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