I miss Trump

[AzogtheDefiler]

Like Trump or not he was totally transparent and would take any question anytime.

Trump meant what he said and said what he meant.

So bleach is good to inject?

You should try it

Nope, I’m not an idiot follower of the former president and current loser.

You’re just an idiot and a loser. Got it. Thanks for confirming.

Sure, did you bleach you ass for the former president and current loser?

Are you hitting on me? You whine more than my kids.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

I’m surprised that you can spell infrastructure since you don’t understand what it means.

I understand it far better than you, NAZI.

I doubt you understand much. Can you show actual prove you can understand something.

I understand that you're an imbecile who does nothing but insult people.

He is a pussy who would not last 10 seconds in Boston.

 

[Slade3200]

Houses Are Consumer Durables - LewRockwell

Over time, under a 100% gold standard, a house would gradually depreciate in value. A house, after all, is nothing more than a durable consumer good — it is a capital good if it is a rental property. However, when living under a fiat-currency regime, perceptions can be radically altered. For...

www.lewrockwell.com

do you consider an energy grid and power distribution as infrastructure?

Yes, but the so-called "smart grid" is a boondoggle intended to facilitate another boondoggle: green energy. Power companies have all the money they need to buy infrastructure that people are actually willing to pay for.

Slow down tonto, I’m trying to understand where you are coming from. So energy grid is infrastructure. let’s say $1B was spent to update equipment to a grid that increased production by 10%... would you consider that an infrastructure spend?

 

[Slade3200]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

$60 billion in tax increases. $350 billion bailout for states unrelated to Covid. California teachers are already planning to gift themselves bonuses of up to $6,000 with the money.

Ten billionaires reap $400bn boost to wealth during pandemic

Covid-19 pushed many into poverty but brought huge benefits for some of the wealthiest, renewing calls for fairer taxes

www.theguardian.com

I think the wealthy are doing alright..

Of course the wealthy are doing fine... where do you think the trillions of dollars of new stimulus ends up going?

Then why are you for it?

Because our people and businesses need it. Why wouldn’t I be for it?

I thought libs were supposed to be against any government spending that benefits the rich.

Like with most things, you think wrong

I can't count all the lefties in here who have objected to a tax cut because rich people might get some of it.

And...?

You should be opposd to the so-called "stimulus" for the same reason.

Why?

 

[Slade3200]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

I’m surprised that you can spell infrastructure since you don’t understand what it means.

I understand it far better than you, NAZI.

I doubt you understand much. Can you show actual prove you can understand something.

I understand that you're an imbecile who does nothing but insult people.

Bri, you really need to look in the mirror after making that comment

 

[otto105]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

I’m surprised that you can spell infrastructure since you don’t understand what it means.

I understand it far better than you, NAZI.

I doubt you understand much. Can you show actual prove you can understand something.

I understand that you're an imbecile who does nothing but insult people.

Just another ad hominem attack ain’t proof you understand anything.

 

[otto105]

Like Trump or not he was totally transparent and would take any question anytime.

Trump meant what he said and said what he meant.

So bleach is good to inject?

You should try it

Nope, I’m not an idiot follower of the former president and current loser.

You’re just an idiot and a loser. Got it. Thanks for confirming.

Sure, did you bleach you ass for the former president and current loser?

Are you hitting on me? You whine more than my kids.

The thought of you have children hilarious. They want you to stop with the idiotic shit too.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Like Trump or not he was totally transparent and would take any question anytime.

Trump meant what he said and said what he meant.

So bleach is good to inject?

You should try it

Nope, I’m not an idiot follower of the former president and current loser.

You’re just an idiot and a loser. Got it. Thanks for confirming.

Sure, did you bleach you ass for the former president and current loser?

Are you hitting on me? You whine more than my kids.

The thought of you have children hilarious. They want you to stop with the idiotic shit too.

You think? News to me. Your posts reflect otherwise.

 

[JimH52]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

If you did the "simple division" then you post your numbers. What a fucking twat you still are. Know nothing and post everything. Asshole.

$621 billion for transportation includes:

• $115 billion for modernizing roads, highways, and bridges -
• $20 billion for road safety – pork, not infrastructure
• $85 billion for public transit – waste of money
• $80 billion for Amtrak and freight rail service – What the fuck does this mean?
• $174 billion for electric vehicles – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion for airports
• $17 billion for ports
• $20 billion for neighborhoods historically excluded from transportation investments – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion to fund new projects – meaningless. Not infrastructure.
• $50 billion for infrastructure resilience, with a special emphasis on more vulnerable areas – pork, not infrastructure

Total

$621 - $20 - $80 - $174 - $20 - $25 - $50 = $301

$111 billion for water infrastructure includes:

• $45 billion towards fully eliminating lead pipes through various programs – this is a scam
• $56 billion in loans and grants to help modernize water systems around the country – they don’t need modernizing.
• $10 billion for monitoring and fixing substances in drinking water – What substances?

$0

Broadband and power

• $100 billion for broadband – we can solve this issue by giving people a Starlink account. Furthermore, it’s just another form of welfare.
• $100 billion for power infrastructure includes:
  • $16 billion towards plugging old wells and cleaning up abandoned mines – not infrastructure
  • $5 billion towards revamping former industrial and energy sites – what the fuck is “revamping
  • $10 billion for the creation of a Civilian Climate Corps - Creae a propaganda and brainwashing dept.

$0

Housing and education

$213 billion for creating and retrofitting over 2 million housing units, with a $40 billion investment in public housing infrastructure- Housgin is nott infrastructure. This is just more welfare.

• $100 billion for upgrading and building public schools – New School buildings should already be paid for. The money that was supposed to pay for them when down the teacher’s union sewer hole.
• $12 billion for community college infrastructure - welfare
• $25 billion for upgrading childcare facilities and making it more widely accessible
  • This is accompanied by a tax credit to incentivize building childcare at Americans' places of work - welfare
• $18 billion to modernize Veterans Affairs hospitals, as well as $10 billion for federal buildings. The government already spends vast amounts on its buildings. No one means government office buildings when they use the term “infrastucture.”
• $400 billion towards home/community care for the elderly and disabled
  • This would expand access, and seek to improve wages, benefits, and unionization for workers in the industry. – welfare

$0

Research and development

• $180 billion towards R&D includes:
  • $50 billion for the National Science Foundation
  • $30 billion for innovation and job creation R&D
  • $40 billion in upgrading research infrastructure, with half allocated to Historically Black College and Universities (HBCUs) as well as "Minority Serving Institutions" (MSIs)
  • $10 billion for those HBCUs and MSIs, as well as $15 billion to create over 200 centers at them to serve as research incubators
  • $35 billion in climate research and development

R & D isn’t infrastructure, especially if it’s for “climate research,” which is nothing more than propaganda.

$300 billion for American manufacturing and small business

• $50 billion for a new office for a new office focused on domestic industry – we don’t need any new government agencies
• $50 billion for research and manufacturing for semiconductors – the Semiconductor industry has been doing fine without government help.
• $30 billion to create new jobs and fend off losses during future pandemics - welfare
• $46 billion for federal buying, with an emphasis on various clean technologies – clean energy boondoggle
• $20 billion for regional innovation hubs – government boondoggle
• $14 billion towards increasing competitiveness through technological advances – government boondoggle
• $52 billion to domestic manufacturers – for what?
• $31 billion for programs providing credit, R&D funding, and venture capital to small businesses – Don’t’ we already have this? It’s called the SBA, and it’s a boondoggle
• $5 billion to create a new "Rural Partnership Program," aimed at supporting local rural efforts – welfare

$100 billion for workforce development includes:

• $40 billion towards career services and training for workers who have lost jobs - welfare
• $12 billion in targeted funding towards "workers facing some of the greatest challenges," prioritizing underserved and hard hit communities, with $5 billion towards "evidence-based community violence prevention programs" - welfare
• $48 billion towards worker protection and development infrastructure, including an expansion of apprenticeships, with a particular emphasis on women and people of color – welfare.

Total actual spending on infrastructure? $302 billion – much of that is for boondoggles like Amtrack and high speed rail

Every bit of it is JOBS

Republicans are against everything...including jobs

It's supposed to be an infrastructure bill, not a jobs bill, moron.

I'm against lies, fraud and boondoggles. That means I'm against everything Democrats are for.

Do you know the name of the Bill?

"The American Jobs Plan."

The American Jobs plan. That’s not labeled infrastructure now is it? A large chunk of it is def infrastructure. Not zero and not 5% but a large chunk. But it also is not labeled as an all infrastructure plan. So stop lying

I'll give you 15%, but a lot of that is useless pork.

That's how they're selling it, moron. Only a small piece of it is infrastructure. The rest of it is useless pork or welfare.

Just like your take on coal, we are NOT going backwards. Infrastructure is more than brick and mortar....stupid. You have a cell phone. The towers are infrastructure....use your brain. stop being a trump humper...

 

[Indeependent]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

If you did the "simple division" then you post your numbers. What a fucking twat you still are. Know nothing and post everything. Asshole.

$621 billion for transportation includes:

• $115 billion for modernizing roads, highways, and bridges -
• $20 billion for road safety – pork, not infrastructure
• $85 billion for public transit – waste of money
• $80 billion for Amtrak and freight rail service – What the fuck does this mean?
• $174 billion for electric vehicles – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion for airports
• $17 billion for ports
• $20 billion for neighborhoods historically excluded from transportation investments – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion to fund new projects – meaningless. Not infrastructure.
• $50 billion for infrastructure resilience, with a special emphasis on more vulnerable areas – pork, not infrastructure

Total

$621 - $20 - $80 - $174 - $20 - $25 - $50 = $301

$111 billion for water infrastructure includes:

• $45 billion towards fully eliminating lead pipes through various programs – this is a scam
• $56 billion in loans and grants to help modernize water systems around the country – they don’t need modernizing.
• $10 billion for monitoring and fixing substances in drinking water – What substances?

$0

Broadband and power

• $100 billion for broadband – we can solve this issue by giving people a Starlink account. Furthermore, it’s just another form of welfare.
• $100 billion for power infrastructure includes:
  • $16 billion towards plugging old wells and cleaning up abandoned mines – not infrastructure
  • $5 billion towards revamping former industrial and energy sites – what the fuck is “revamping
  • $10 billion for the creation of a Civilian Climate Corps - Creae a propaganda and brainwashing dept.

$0

Housing and education

$213 billion for creating and retrofitting over 2 million housing units, with a $40 billion investment in public housing infrastructure- Housgin is nott infrastructure. This is just more welfare.

• $100 billion for upgrading and building public schools – New School buildings should already be paid for. The money that was supposed to pay for them when down the teacher’s union sewer hole.
• $12 billion for community college infrastructure - welfare
• $25 billion for upgrading childcare facilities and making it more widely accessible
  • This is accompanied by a tax credit to incentivize building childcare at Americans' places of work - welfare
• $18 billion to modernize Veterans Affairs hospitals, as well as $10 billion for federal buildings. The government already spends vast amounts on its buildings. No one means government office buildings when they use the term “infrastucture.”
• $400 billion towards home/community care for the elderly and disabled
  • This would expand access, and seek to improve wages, benefits, and unionization for workers in the industry. – welfare

$0

Research and development

• $180 billion towards R&D includes:
  • $50 billion for the National Science Foundation
  • $30 billion for innovation and job creation R&D
  • $40 billion in upgrading research infrastructure, with half allocated to Historically Black College and Universities (HBCUs) as well as "Minority Serving Institutions" (MSIs)
  • $10 billion for those HBCUs and MSIs, as well as $15 billion to create over 200 centers at them to serve as research incubators
  • $35 billion in climate research and development

R & D isn’t infrastructure, especially if it’s for “climate research,” which is nothing more than propaganda.

$300 billion for American manufacturing and small business

• $50 billion for a new office for a new office focused on domestic industry – we don’t need any new government agencies
• $50 billion for research and manufacturing for semiconductors – the Semiconductor industry has been doing fine without government help.
• $30 billion to create new jobs and fend off losses during future pandemics - welfare
• $46 billion for federal buying, with an emphasis on various clean technologies – clean energy boondoggle
• $20 billion for regional innovation hubs – government boondoggle
• $14 billion towards increasing competitiveness through technological advances – government boondoggle
• $52 billion to domestic manufacturers – for what?
• $31 billion for programs providing credit, R&D funding, and venture capital to small businesses – Don’t’ we already have this? It’s called the SBA, and it’s a boondoggle
• $5 billion to create a new "Rural Partnership Program," aimed at supporting local rural efforts – welfare

$100 billion for workforce development includes:

• $40 billion towards career services and training for workers who have lost jobs - welfare
• $12 billion in targeted funding towards "workers facing some of the greatest challenges," prioritizing underserved and hard hit communities, with $5 billion towards "evidence-based community violence prevention programs" - welfare
• $48 billion towards worker protection and development infrastructure, including an expansion of apprenticeships, with a particular emphasis on women and people of color – welfare.

Total actual spending on infrastructure? $302 billion – much of that is for boondoggles like Amtrack and high speed rail

Every bit of it is JOBS

Republicans are against everything...including jobs

It's supposed to be an infrastructure bill, not a jobs bill, moron.

I'm against lies, fraud and boondoggles. That means I'm against everything Democrats are for.

Do you know the name of the Bill?

"The American Jobs Plan."

The American Jobs plan. That’s not labeled infrastructure now is it? A large chunk of it is def infrastructure. Not zero and not 5% but a large chunk. But it also is not labeled as an all infrastructure plan. So stop lying

I'll give you 15%, but a lot of that is useless pork.

That's how they're selling it, moron. Only a small piece of it is infrastructure. The rest of it is useless pork or welfare.

Just like your take on coal, we are NOT going backwards. Infrastructure is more than brick and mortar....stupid. You have a cell phone. The towers are infrastructure....use your brain. stop being a trump humper...

In the meanwhile, LibBots call the people who build this infrastructure uneducated.

 

[bripat9643]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

I’m surprised that you can spell infrastructure since you don’t understand what it means.

I understand it far better than you, NAZI.

I doubt you understand much. Can you show actual prove you can understand something.

I understand that you're an imbecile who does nothing but insult people.

Just another ad hominem attack ain’t proof you understand anything.

It proves I understand your modus operandi.

 

[Slade3200]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

If you did the "simple division" then you post your numbers. What a fucking twat you still are. Know nothing and post everything. Asshole.

$621 billion for transportation includes:

• $115 billion for modernizing roads, highways, and bridges -
• $20 billion for road safety – pork, not infrastructure
• $85 billion for public transit – waste of money
• $80 billion for Amtrak and freight rail service – What the fuck does this mean?
• $174 billion for electric vehicles – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion for airports
• $17 billion for ports
• $20 billion for neighborhoods historically excluded from transportation investments – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion to fund new projects – meaningless. Not infrastructure.
• $50 billion for infrastructure resilience, with a special emphasis on more vulnerable areas – pork, not infrastructure

Total

$621 - $20 - $80 - $174 - $20 - $25 - $50 = $301

$111 billion for water infrastructure includes:

• $45 billion towards fully eliminating lead pipes through various programs – this is a scam
• $56 billion in loans and grants to help modernize water systems around the country – they don’t need modernizing.
• $10 billion for monitoring and fixing substances in drinking water – What substances?

$0

Broadband and power

• $100 billion for broadband – we can solve this issue by giving people a Starlink account. Furthermore, it’s just another form of welfare.
• $100 billion for power infrastructure includes:
  • $16 billion towards plugging old wells and cleaning up abandoned mines – not infrastructure
  • $5 billion towards revamping former industrial and energy sites – what the fuck is “revamping
  • $10 billion for the creation of a Civilian Climate Corps - Creae a propaganda and brainwashing dept.

$0

Housing and education

$213 billion for creating and retrofitting over 2 million housing units, with a $40 billion investment in public housing infrastructure- Housgin is nott infrastructure. This is just more welfare.

• $100 billion for upgrading and building public schools – New School buildings should already be paid for. The money that was supposed to pay for them when down the teacher’s union sewer hole.
• $12 billion for community college infrastructure - welfare
• $25 billion for upgrading childcare facilities and making it more widely accessible
  • This is accompanied by a tax credit to incentivize building childcare at Americans' places of work - welfare
• $18 billion to modernize Veterans Affairs hospitals, as well as $10 billion for federal buildings. The government already spends vast amounts on its buildings. No one means government office buildings when they use the term “infrastucture.”
• $400 billion towards home/community care for the elderly and disabled
  • This would expand access, and seek to improve wages, benefits, and unionization for workers in the industry. – welfare

$0

Research and development

• $180 billion towards R&D includes:
  • $50 billion for the National Science Foundation
  • $30 billion for innovation and job creation R&D
  • $40 billion in upgrading research infrastructure, with half allocated to Historically Black College and Universities (HBCUs) as well as "Minority Serving Institutions" (MSIs)
  • $10 billion for those HBCUs and MSIs, as well as $15 billion to create over 200 centers at them to serve as research incubators
  • $35 billion in climate research and development

R & D isn’t infrastructure, especially if it’s for “climate research,” which is nothing more than propaganda.

$300 billion for American manufacturing and small business

• $50 billion for a new office for a new office focused on domestic industry – we don’t need any new government agencies
• $50 billion for research and manufacturing for semiconductors – the Semiconductor industry has been doing fine without government help.
• $30 billion to create new jobs and fend off losses during future pandemics - welfare
• $46 billion for federal buying, with an emphasis on various clean technologies – clean energy boondoggle
• $20 billion for regional innovation hubs – government boondoggle
• $14 billion towards increasing competitiveness through technological advances – government boondoggle
• $52 billion to domestic manufacturers – for what?
• $31 billion for programs providing credit, R&D funding, and venture capital to small businesses – Don’t’ we already have this? It’s called the SBA, and it’s a boondoggle
• $5 billion to create a new "Rural Partnership Program," aimed at supporting local rural efforts – welfare

$100 billion for workforce development includes:

• $40 billion towards career services and training for workers who have lost jobs - welfare
• $12 billion in targeted funding towards "workers facing some of the greatest challenges," prioritizing underserved and hard hit communities, with $5 billion towards "evidence-based community violence prevention programs" - welfare
• $48 billion towards worker protection and development infrastructure, including an expansion of apprenticeships, with a particular emphasis on women and people of color – welfare.

Total actual spending on infrastructure? $302 billion – much of that is for boondoggles like Amtrack and high speed rail

Every bit of it is JOBS

Republicans are against everything...including jobs

It's supposed to be an infrastructure bill, not a jobs bill, moron.

I'm against lies, fraud and boondoggles. That means I'm against everything Democrats are for.

Do you know the name of the Bill?

"The American Jobs Plan."

The American Jobs plan. That’s not labeled infrastructure now is it? A large chunk of it is def infrastructure. Not zero and not 5% but a large chunk. But it also is not labeled as an all infrastructure plan. So stop lying

I'll give you 15%, but a lot of that is useless pork.

That's how they're selling it, moron. Only a small piece of it is infrastructure. The rest of it is useless pork or welfare.

Just like your take on coal, we are NOT going backwards. Infrastructure is more than brick and mortar....stupid. You have a cell phone. The towers are infrastructure....use your brain. stop being a trump humper...

In the meanwhile, LibBots call the people who build this infrastructure uneducated.

What are you talking about?

 

[bripat9643]

Houses Are Consumer Durables - LewRockwell

Over time, under a 100% gold standard, a house would gradually depreciate in value. A house, after all, is nothing more than a durable consumer good — it is a capital good if it is a rental property. However, when living under a fiat-currency regime, perceptions can be radically altered. For...

www.lewrockwell.com

do you consider an energy grid and power distribution as infrastructure?

Yes, but the so-called "smart grid" is a boondoggle intended to facilitate another boondoggle: green energy. Power companies have all the money they need to buy infrastructure that people are actually willing to pay for.

Slow down tonto, I’m trying to understand where you are coming from. So energy grid is infrastructure. let’s say $1B was spent to update equipment to a grid that increased production by 10%... would you consider that an infrastructure spend?

We all know the money will not be spent on that. If power companies could spend $1 billion and get a 10% increase on the power delivered to the customer, they would have done it already. You don't need government to spend money on things that customer will pay for voluntarily. It's only useless boondoggles that no one wants that require government funding.

 

[Indeependent]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

If you did the "simple division" then you post your numbers. What a fucking twat you still are. Know nothing and post everything. Asshole.

$621 billion for transportation includes:

• $115 billion for modernizing roads, highways, and bridges -
• $20 billion for road safety – pork, not infrastructure
• $85 billion for public transit – waste of money
• $80 billion for Amtrak and freight rail service – What the fuck does this mean?
• $174 billion for electric vehicles – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion for airports
• $17 billion for ports
• $20 billion for neighborhoods historically excluded from transportation investments – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion to fund new projects – meaningless. Not infrastructure.
• $50 billion for infrastructure resilience, with a special emphasis on more vulnerable areas – pork, not infrastructure

Total

$621 - $20 - $80 - $174 - $20 - $25 - $50 = $301

$111 billion for water infrastructure includes:

• $45 billion towards fully eliminating lead pipes through various programs – this is a scam
• $56 billion in loans and grants to help modernize water systems around the country – they don’t need modernizing.
• $10 billion for monitoring and fixing substances in drinking water – What substances?

$0

Broadband and power

• $100 billion for broadband – we can solve this issue by giving people a Starlink account. Furthermore, it’s just another form of welfare.
• $100 billion for power infrastructure includes:
  • $16 billion towards plugging old wells and cleaning up abandoned mines – not infrastructure
  • $5 billion towards revamping former industrial and energy sites – what the fuck is “revamping
  • $10 billion for the creation of a Civilian Climate Corps - Creae a propaganda and brainwashing dept.

$0

Housing and education

$213 billion for creating and retrofitting over 2 million housing units, with a $40 billion investment in public housing infrastructure- Housgin is nott infrastructure. This is just more welfare.

• $100 billion for upgrading and building public schools – New School buildings should already be paid for. The money that was supposed to pay for them when down the teacher’s union sewer hole.
• $12 billion for community college infrastructure - welfare
• $25 billion for upgrading childcare facilities and making it more widely accessible
  • This is accompanied by a tax credit to incentivize building childcare at Americans' places of work - welfare
• $18 billion to modernize Veterans Affairs hospitals, as well as $10 billion for federal buildings. The government already spends vast amounts on its buildings. No one means government office buildings when they use the term “infrastucture.”
• $400 billion towards home/community care for the elderly and disabled
  • This would expand access, and seek to improve wages, benefits, and unionization for workers in the industry. – welfare

$0

Research and development

• $180 billion towards R&D includes:
  • $50 billion for the National Science Foundation
  • $30 billion for innovation and job creation R&D
  • $40 billion in upgrading research infrastructure, with half allocated to Historically Black College and Universities (HBCUs) as well as "Minority Serving Institutions" (MSIs)
  • $10 billion for those HBCUs and MSIs, as well as $15 billion to create over 200 centers at them to serve as research incubators
  • $35 billion in climate research and development

R & D isn’t infrastructure, especially if it’s for “climate research,” which is nothing more than propaganda.

$300 billion for American manufacturing and small business

• $50 billion for a new office for a new office focused on domestic industry – we don’t need any new government agencies
• $50 billion for research and manufacturing for semiconductors – the Semiconductor industry has been doing fine without government help.
• $30 billion to create new jobs and fend off losses during future pandemics - welfare
• $46 billion for federal buying, with an emphasis on various clean technologies – clean energy boondoggle
• $20 billion for regional innovation hubs – government boondoggle
• $14 billion towards increasing competitiveness through technological advances – government boondoggle
• $52 billion to domestic manufacturers – for what?
• $31 billion for programs providing credit, R&D funding, and venture capital to small businesses – Don’t’ we already have this? It’s called the SBA, and it’s a boondoggle
• $5 billion to create a new "Rural Partnership Program," aimed at supporting local rural efforts – welfare

$100 billion for workforce development includes:

• $40 billion towards career services and training for workers who have lost jobs - welfare
• $12 billion in targeted funding towards "workers facing some of the greatest challenges," prioritizing underserved and hard hit communities, with $5 billion towards "evidence-based community violence prevention programs" - welfare
• $48 billion towards worker protection and development infrastructure, including an expansion of apprenticeships, with a particular emphasis on women and people of color – welfare.

Total actual spending on infrastructure? $302 billion – much of that is for boondoggles like Amtrack and high speed rail

Every bit of it is JOBS

Republicans are against everything...including jobs

It's supposed to be an infrastructure bill, not a jobs bill, moron.

I'm against lies, fraud and boondoggles. That means I'm against everything Democrats are for.

Do you know the name of the Bill?

"The American Jobs Plan."

The American Jobs plan. That’s not labeled infrastructure now is it? A large chunk of it is def infrastructure. Not zero and not 5% but a large chunk. But it also is not labeled as an all infrastructure plan. So stop lying

I'll give you 15%, but a lot of that is useless pork.

That's how they're selling it, moron. Only a small piece of it is infrastructure. The rest of it is useless pork or welfare.

Just like your take on coal, we are NOT going backwards. Infrastructure is more than brick and mortar....stupid. You have a cell phone. The towers are infrastructure....use your brain. stop being a trump humper...

In the meanwhile, LibBots call the people who build this infrastructure uneducated.

What are you talking about?

Are you on drugs?
Trump was running on tradespeople getting jobs who were always being labeled by Libs as uneducated as replaced by trespassers.

 

[bripat9643]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

If you did the "simple division" then you post your numbers. What a fucking twat you still are. Know nothing and post everything. Asshole.

$621 billion for transportation includes:

• $115 billion for modernizing roads, highways, and bridges -
• $20 billion for road safety – pork, not infrastructure
• $85 billion for public transit – waste of money
• $80 billion for Amtrak and freight rail service – What the fuck does this mean?
• $174 billion for electric vehicles – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion for airports
• $17 billion for ports
• $20 billion for neighborhoods historically excluded from transportation investments – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion to fund new projects – meaningless. Not infrastructure.
• $50 billion for infrastructure resilience, with a special emphasis on more vulnerable areas – pork, not infrastructure

Total

$621 - $20 - $80 - $174 - $20 - $25 - $50 = $301

$111 billion for water infrastructure includes:

• $45 billion towards fully eliminating lead pipes through various programs – this is a scam
• $56 billion in loans and grants to help modernize water systems around the country – they don’t need modernizing.
• $10 billion for monitoring and fixing substances in drinking water – What substances?

$0

Broadband and power

• $100 billion for broadband – we can solve this issue by giving people a Starlink account. Furthermore, it’s just another form of welfare.
• $100 billion for power infrastructure includes:
  • $16 billion towards plugging old wells and cleaning up abandoned mines – not infrastructure
  • $5 billion towards revamping former industrial and energy sites – what the fuck is “revamping
  • $10 billion for the creation of a Civilian Climate Corps - Creae a propaganda and brainwashing dept.

$0

Housing and education

$213 billion for creating and retrofitting over 2 million housing units, with a $40 billion investment in public housing infrastructure- Housgin is nott infrastructure. This is just more welfare.

• $100 billion for upgrading and building public schools – New School buildings should already be paid for. The money that was supposed to pay for them when down the teacher’s union sewer hole.
• $12 billion for community college infrastructure - welfare
• $25 billion for upgrading childcare facilities and making it more widely accessible
  • This is accompanied by a tax credit to incentivize building childcare at Americans' places of work - welfare
• $18 billion to modernize Veterans Affairs hospitals, as well as $10 billion for federal buildings. The government already spends vast amounts on its buildings. No one means government office buildings when they use the term “infrastucture.”
• $400 billion towards home/community care for the elderly and disabled
  • This would expand access, and seek to improve wages, benefits, and unionization for workers in the industry. – welfare

$0

Research and development

• $180 billion towards R&D includes:
  • $50 billion for the National Science Foundation
  • $30 billion for innovation and job creation R&D
  • $40 billion in upgrading research infrastructure, with half allocated to Historically Black College and Universities (HBCUs) as well as "Minority Serving Institutions" (MSIs)
  • $10 billion for those HBCUs and MSIs, as well as $15 billion to create over 200 centers at them to serve as research incubators
  • $35 billion in climate research and development

R & D isn’t infrastructure, especially if it’s for “climate research,” which is nothing more than propaganda.

$300 billion for American manufacturing and small business

• $50 billion for a new office for a new office focused on domestic industry – we don’t need any new government agencies
• $50 billion for research and manufacturing for semiconductors – the Semiconductor industry has been doing fine without government help.
• $30 billion to create new jobs and fend off losses during future pandemics - welfare
• $46 billion for federal buying, with an emphasis on various clean technologies – clean energy boondoggle
• $20 billion for regional innovation hubs – government boondoggle
• $14 billion towards increasing competitiveness through technological advances – government boondoggle
• $52 billion to domestic manufacturers – for what?
• $31 billion for programs providing credit, R&D funding, and venture capital to small businesses – Don’t’ we already have this? It’s called the SBA, and it’s a boondoggle
• $5 billion to create a new "Rural Partnership Program," aimed at supporting local rural efforts – welfare

$100 billion for workforce development includes:

• $40 billion towards career services and training for workers who have lost jobs - welfare
• $12 billion in targeted funding towards "workers facing some of the greatest challenges," prioritizing underserved and hard hit communities, with $5 billion towards "evidence-based community violence prevention programs" - welfare
• $48 billion towards worker protection and development infrastructure, including an expansion of apprenticeships, with a particular emphasis on women and people of color – welfare.

Total actual spending on infrastructure? $302 billion – much of that is for boondoggles like Amtrack and high speed rail

Every bit of it is JOBS

Republicans are against everything...including jobs

It's supposed to be an infrastructure bill, not a jobs bill, moron.

I'm against lies, fraud and boondoggles. That means I'm against everything Democrats are for.

Do you know the name of the Bill?

"The American Jobs Plan."

The American Jobs plan. That’s not labeled infrastructure now is it? A large chunk of it is def infrastructure. Not zero and not 5% but a large chunk. But it also is not labeled as an all infrastructure plan. So stop lying

I'll give you 15%, but a lot of that is useless pork.

That's how they're selling it, moron. Only a small piece of it is infrastructure. The rest of it is useless pork or welfare.

Just like your take on coal, we are NOT going backwards. Infrastructure is more than brick and mortar....stupid. You have a cell phone. The towers are infrastructure....use your brain. stop being a trump humper...

If you get your way, yes we are. None of this money will be spent on cell towers. It will all be spent on things that would never get by Congress if voted on individually. It's all swag.

BTW, what do you imagine my take on coal is?

 

[JimH52]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

If you did the "simple division" then you post your numbers. What a fucking twat you still are. Know nothing and post everything. Asshole.

$621 billion for transportation includes:

• $115 billion for modernizing roads, highways, and bridges -
• $20 billion for road safety – pork, not infrastructure
• $85 billion for public transit – waste of money
• $80 billion for Amtrak and freight rail service – What the fuck does this mean?
• $174 billion for electric vehicles – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion for airports
• $17 billion for ports
• $20 billion for neighborhoods historically excluded from transportation investments – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion to fund new projects – meaningless. Not infrastructure.
• $50 billion for infrastructure resilience, with a special emphasis on more vulnerable areas – pork, not infrastructure

Total

$621 - $20 - $80 - $174 - $20 - $25 - $50 = $301

$111 billion for water infrastructure includes:

• $45 billion towards fully eliminating lead pipes through various programs – this is a scam
• $56 billion in loans and grants to help modernize water systems around the country – they don’t need modernizing.
• $10 billion for monitoring and fixing substances in drinking water – What substances?

$0

Broadband and power

• $100 billion for broadband – we can solve this issue by giving people a Starlink account. Furthermore, it’s just another form of welfare.
• $100 billion for power infrastructure includes:
  • $16 billion towards plugging old wells and cleaning up abandoned mines – not infrastructure
  • $5 billion towards revamping former industrial and energy sites – what the fuck is “revamping
  • $10 billion for the creation of a Civilian Climate Corps - Creae a propaganda and brainwashing dept.

$0

Housing and education

$213 billion for creating and retrofitting over 2 million housing units, with a $40 billion investment in public housing infrastructure- Housgin is nott infrastructure. This is just more welfare.

• $100 billion for upgrading and building public schools – New School buildings should already be paid for. The money that was supposed to pay for them when down the teacher’s union sewer hole.
• $12 billion for community college infrastructure - welfare
• $25 billion for upgrading childcare facilities and making it more widely accessible
  • This is accompanied by a tax credit to incentivize building childcare at Americans' places of work - welfare
• $18 billion to modernize Veterans Affairs hospitals, as well as $10 billion for federal buildings. The government already spends vast amounts on its buildings. No one means government office buildings when they use the term “infrastucture.”
• $400 billion towards home/community care for the elderly and disabled
  • This would expand access, and seek to improve wages, benefits, and unionization for workers in the industry. – welfare

$0

Research and development

• $180 billion towards R&D includes:
  • $50 billion for the National Science Foundation
  • $30 billion for innovation and job creation R&D
  • $40 billion in upgrading research infrastructure, with half allocated to Historically Black College and Universities (HBCUs) as well as "Minority Serving Institutions" (MSIs)
  • $10 billion for those HBCUs and MSIs, as well as $15 billion to create over 200 centers at them to serve as research incubators
  • $35 billion in climate research and development

R & D isn’t infrastructure, especially if it’s for “climate research,” which is nothing more than propaganda.

$300 billion for American manufacturing and small business

• $50 billion for a new office for a new office focused on domestic industry – we don’t need any new government agencies
• $50 billion for research and manufacturing for semiconductors – the Semiconductor industry has been doing fine without government help.
• $30 billion to create new jobs and fend off losses during future pandemics - welfare
• $46 billion for federal buying, with an emphasis on various clean technologies – clean energy boondoggle
• $20 billion for regional innovation hubs – government boondoggle
• $14 billion towards increasing competitiveness through technological advances – government boondoggle
• $52 billion to domestic manufacturers – for what?
• $31 billion for programs providing credit, R&D funding, and venture capital to small businesses – Don’t’ we already have this? It’s called the SBA, and it’s a boondoggle
• $5 billion to create a new "Rural Partnership Program," aimed at supporting local rural efforts – welfare

$100 billion for workforce development includes:

• $40 billion towards career services and training for workers who have lost jobs - welfare
• $12 billion in targeted funding towards "workers facing some of the greatest challenges," prioritizing underserved and hard hit communities, with $5 billion towards "evidence-based community violence prevention programs" - welfare
• $48 billion towards worker protection and development infrastructure, including an expansion of apprenticeships, with a particular emphasis on women and people of color – welfare.

Total actual spending on infrastructure? $302 billion – much of that is for boondoggles like Amtrack and high speed rail

Every bit of it is JOBS

Republicans are against everything...including jobs

It's supposed to be an infrastructure bill, not a jobs bill, moron.

I'm against lies, fraud and boondoggles. That means I'm against everything Democrats are for.

Do you know the name of the Bill?

"The American Jobs Plan."

The American Jobs plan. That’s not labeled infrastructure now is it? A large chunk of it is def infrastructure. Not zero and not 5% but a large chunk. But it also is not labeled as an all infrastructure plan. So stop lying

I'll give you 15%, but a lot of that is useless pork.

That's how they're selling it, moron. Only a small piece of it is infrastructure. The rest of it is useless pork or welfare.

Just like your take on coal, we are NOT going backwards. Infrastructure is more than brick and mortar....stupid. You have a cell phone. The towers are infrastructure....use your brain. stop being a trump humper...

If you get your way, yes we are. None of this money will be spent on cell towers. It will all be spent on things that would never get by Congress if voted on individually. It's all swag.

BTW, what do you imagine my take on coal is?

Why did I Unignore you? Good Grief....

 

[bripat9643]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

If you did the "simple division" then you post your numbers. What a fucking twat you still are. Know nothing and post everything. Asshole.

$621 billion for transportation includes:

• $115 billion for modernizing roads, highways, and bridges -
• $20 billion for road safety – pork, not infrastructure
• $85 billion for public transit – waste of money
• $80 billion for Amtrak and freight rail service – What the fuck does this mean?
• $174 billion for electric vehicles – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion for airports
• $17 billion for ports
• $20 billion for neighborhoods historically excluded from transportation investments – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion to fund new projects – meaningless. Not infrastructure.
• $50 billion for infrastructure resilience, with a special emphasis on more vulnerable areas – pork, not infrastructure

Total

$621 - $20 - $80 - $174 - $20 - $25 - $50 = $301

$111 billion for water infrastructure includes:

• $45 billion towards fully eliminating lead pipes through various programs – this is a scam
• $56 billion in loans and grants to help modernize water systems around the country – they don’t need modernizing.
• $10 billion for monitoring and fixing substances in drinking water – What substances?

$0

Broadband and power

• $100 billion for broadband – we can solve this issue by giving people a Starlink account. Furthermore, it’s just another form of welfare.
• $100 billion for power infrastructure includes:
  • $16 billion towards plugging old wells and cleaning up abandoned mines – not infrastructure
  • $5 billion towards revamping former industrial and energy sites – what the fuck is “revamping
  • $10 billion for the creation of a Civilian Climate Corps - Creae a propaganda and brainwashing dept.

$0

Housing and education

$213 billion for creating and retrofitting over 2 million housing units, with a $40 billion investment in public housing infrastructure- Housgin is nott infrastructure. This is just more welfare.

• $100 billion for upgrading and building public schools – New School buildings should already be paid for. The money that was supposed to pay for them when down the teacher’s union sewer hole.
• $12 billion for community college infrastructure - welfare
• $25 billion for upgrading childcare facilities and making it more widely accessible
  • This is accompanied by a tax credit to incentivize building childcare at Americans' places of work - welfare
• $18 billion to modernize Veterans Affairs hospitals, as well as $10 billion for federal buildings. The government already spends vast amounts on its buildings. No one means government office buildings when they use the term “infrastucture.”
• $400 billion towards home/community care for the elderly and disabled
  • This would expand access, and seek to improve wages, benefits, and unionization for workers in the industry. – welfare

$0

Research and development

• $180 billion towards R&D includes:
  • $50 billion for the National Science Foundation
  • $30 billion for innovation and job creation R&D
  • $40 billion in upgrading research infrastructure, with half allocated to Historically Black College and Universities (HBCUs) as well as "Minority Serving Institutions" (MSIs)
  • $10 billion for those HBCUs and MSIs, as well as $15 billion to create over 200 centers at them to serve as research incubators
  • $35 billion in climate research and development

R & D isn’t infrastructure, especially if it’s for “climate research,” which is nothing more than propaganda.

$300 billion for American manufacturing and small business

• $50 billion for a new office for a new office focused on domestic industry – we don’t need any new government agencies
• $50 billion for research and manufacturing for semiconductors – the Semiconductor industry has been doing fine without government help.
• $30 billion to create new jobs and fend off losses during future pandemics - welfare
• $46 billion for federal buying, with an emphasis on various clean technologies – clean energy boondoggle
• $20 billion for regional innovation hubs – government boondoggle
• $14 billion towards increasing competitiveness through technological advances – government boondoggle
• $52 billion to domestic manufacturers – for what?
• $31 billion for programs providing credit, R&D funding, and venture capital to small businesses – Don’t’ we already have this? It’s called the SBA, and it’s a boondoggle
• $5 billion to create a new "Rural Partnership Program," aimed at supporting local rural efforts – welfare

$100 billion for workforce development includes:

• $40 billion towards career services and training for workers who have lost jobs - welfare
• $12 billion in targeted funding towards "workers facing some of the greatest challenges," prioritizing underserved and hard hit communities, with $5 billion towards "evidence-based community violence prevention programs" - welfare
• $48 billion towards worker protection and development infrastructure, including an expansion of apprenticeships, with a particular emphasis on women and people of color – welfare.

Total actual spending on infrastructure? $302 billion – much of that is for boondoggles like Amtrack and high speed rail

Every bit of it is JOBS

Republicans are against everything...including jobs

It's supposed to be an infrastructure bill, not a jobs bill, moron.

I'm against lies, fraud and boondoggles. That means I'm against everything Democrats are for.

Do you know the name of the Bill?

"The American Jobs Plan."

The American Jobs plan. That’s not labeled infrastructure now is it? A large chunk of it is def infrastructure. Not zero and not 5% but a large chunk. But it also is not labeled as an all infrastructure plan. So stop lying

I'll give you 15%, but a lot of that is useless pork.

That's how they're selling it, moron. Only a small piece of it is infrastructure. The rest of it is useless pork or welfare.

Just like your take on coal, we are NOT going backwards. Infrastructure is more than brick and mortar....stupid. You have a cell phone. The towers are infrastructure....use your brain. stop being a trump humper...

If you get your way, yes we are. None of this money will be spent on cell towers. It will all be spent on things that would never get by Congress if voted on individually. It's all swag.

BTW, what do you imagine my take on coal is?

Why did I Unignore you? Good Grief....

Because you knew I was laughing at you.

Obviously, you can't answer my questions

 

[Slade3200]

Houses Are Consumer Durables - LewRockwell

Over time, under a 100% gold standard, a house would gradually depreciate in value. A house, after all, is nothing more than a durable consumer good — it is a capital good if it is a rental property. However, when living under a fiat-currency regime, perceptions can be radically altered. For...

www.lewrockwell.com

do you consider an energy grid and power distribution as infrastructure?

Yes, but the so-called "smart grid" is a boondoggle intended to facilitate another boondoggle: green energy. Power companies have all the money they need to buy infrastructure that people are actually willing to pay for.

Slow down tonto, I’m trying to understand where you are coming from. So energy grid is infrastructure. let’s say $1B was spent to update equipment to a grid that increased production by 10%... would you consider that an infrastructure spend?

We all know the money will not be spent on that. If power companies could spend $1 billion and get a 10% increase on the power delivered to the customer, they would have done it already. You don't need government to spend money on things that customer will pay for voluntarily. It's only useless boondoggles that no one wants that require government funding.

Don’t dodge my question what I’m asking is very simple. If $$ is spent on equipment that increases a grids efficiency would that be considered an infrastructure spend by you?

 

[Slade3200]

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.

There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?

there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.

Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy

Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.

If you did the "simple division" then you post your numbers. What a fucking twat you still are. Know nothing and post everything. Asshole.

$621 billion for transportation includes:

• $115 billion for modernizing roads, highways, and bridges -
• $20 billion for road safety – pork, not infrastructure
• $85 billion for public transit – waste of money
• $80 billion for Amtrak and freight rail service – What the fuck does this mean?
• $174 billion for electric vehicles – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion for airports
• $17 billion for ports
• $20 billion for neighborhoods historically excluded from transportation investments – pork, not infrastructure
• $25 billion to fund new projects – meaningless. Not infrastructure.
• $50 billion for infrastructure resilience, with a special emphasis on more vulnerable areas – pork, not infrastructure

Total

$621 - $20 - $80 - $174 - $20 - $25 - $50 = $301

$111 billion for water infrastructure includes:

• $45 billion towards fully eliminating lead pipes through various programs – this is a scam
• $56 billion in loans and grants to help modernize water systems around the country – they don’t need modernizing.
• $10 billion for monitoring and fixing substances in drinking water – What substances?

$0

Broadband and power

• $100 billion for broadband – we can solve this issue by giving people a Starlink account. Furthermore, it’s just another form of welfare.
• $100 billion for power infrastructure includes:
  • $16 billion towards plugging old wells and cleaning up abandoned mines – not infrastructure
  • $5 billion towards revamping former industrial and energy sites – what the fuck is “revamping
  • $10 billion for the creation of a Civilian Climate Corps - Creae a propaganda and brainwashing dept.

$0

Housing and education

$213 billion for creating and retrofitting over 2 million housing units, with a $40 billion investment in public housing infrastructure- Housgin is nott infrastructure. This is just more welfare.

• $100 billion for upgrading and building public schools – New School buildings should already be paid for. The money that was supposed to pay for them when down the teacher’s union sewer hole.
• $12 billion for community college infrastructure - welfare
• $25 billion for upgrading childcare facilities and making it more widely accessible
  • This is accompanied by a tax credit to incentivize building childcare at Americans' places of work - welfare
• $18 billion to modernize Veterans Affairs hospitals, as well as $10 billion for federal buildings. The government already spends vast amounts on its buildings. No one means government office buildings when they use the term “infrastucture.”
• $400 billion towards home/community care for the elderly and disabled
  • This would expand access, and seek to improve wages, benefits, and unionization for workers in the industry. – welfare

$0

Research and development

• $180 billion towards R&D includes:
  • $50 billion for the National Science Foundation
  • $30 billion for innovation and job creation R&D
  • $40 billion in upgrading research infrastructure, with half allocated to Historically Black College and Universities (HBCUs) as well as "Minority Serving Institutions" (MSIs)
  • $10 billion for those HBCUs and MSIs, as well as $15 billion to create over 200 centers at them to serve as research incubators
  • $35 billion in climate research and development

R & D isn’t infrastructure, especially if it’s for “climate research,” which is nothing more than propaganda.

$300 billion for American manufacturing and small business

• $50 billion for a new office for a new office focused on domestic industry – we don’t need any new government agencies
• $50 billion for research and manufacturing for semiconductors – the Semiconductor industry has been doing fine without government help.
• $30 billion to create new jobs and fend off losses during future pandemics - welfare
• $46 billion for federal buying, with an emphasis on various clean technologies – clean energy boondoggle
• $20 billion for regional innovation hubs – government boondoggle
• $14 billion towards increasing competitiveness through technological advances – government boondoggle
• $52 billion to domestic manufacturers – for what?
• $31 billion for programs providing credit, R&D funding, and venture capital to small businesses – Don’t’ we already have this? It’s called the SBA, and it’s a boondoggle
• $5 billion to create a new "Rural Partnership Program," aimed at supporting local rural efforts – welfare

$100 billion for workforce development includes:

• $40 billion towards career services and training for workers who have lost jobs - welfare
• $12 billion in targeted funding towards "workers facing some of the greatest challenges," prioritizing underserved and hard hit communities, with $5 billion towards "evidence-based community violence prevention programs" - welfare
• $48 billion towards worker protection and development infrastructure, including an expansion of apprenticeships, with a particular emphasis on women and people of color – welfare.

Total actual spending on infrastructure? $302 billion – much of that is for boondoggles like Amtrack and high speed rail

Every bit of it is JOBS

Republicans are against everything...including jobs

It's supposed to be an infrastructure bill, not a jobs bill, moron.

I'm against lies, fraud and boondoggles. That means I'm against everything Democrats are for.

Do you know the name of the Bill?

"The American Jobs Plan."

The American Jobs plan. That’s not labeled infrastructure now is it? A large chunk of it is def infrastructure. Not zero and not 5% but a large chunk. But it also is not labeled as an all infrastructure plan. So stop lying

I'll give you 15%, but a lot of that is useless pork.

That's how they're selling it, moron. Only a small piece of it is infrastructure. The rest of it is useless pork or welfare.

Just like your take on coal, we are NOT going backwards. Infrastructure is more than brick and mortar....stupid. You have a cell phone. The towers are infrastructure....use your brain. stop being a trump humper...

In the meanwhile, LibBots call the people who build this infrastructure uneducated.

What are you talking about?

Are you on drugs?
Trump was running on tradespeople getting jobs who were always being labeled by Libs as uneducated as replaced by trespassers.

That’s fake news. Plenty of blue collared tradespeople vote blue. You’re lying

 

[bripat9643]

Houses Are Consumer Durables - LewRockwell

Over time, under a 100% gold standard, a house would gradually depreciate in value. A house, after all, is nothing more than a durable consumer good — it is a capital good if it is a rental property. However, when living under a fiat-currency regime, perceptions can be radically altered. For...

www.lewrockwell.com

do you consider an energy grid and power distribution as infrastructure?

Yes, but the so-called "smart grid" is a boondoggle intended to facilitate another boondoggle: green energy. Power companies have all the money they need to buy infrastructure that people are actually willing to pay for.

Slow down tonto, I’m trying to understand where you are coming from. So energy grid is infrastructure. let’s say $1B was spent to update equipment to a grid that increased production by 10%... would you consider that an infrastructure spend?

We all know the money will not be spent on that. If power companies could spend $1 billion and get a 10% increase on the power delivered to the customer, they would have done it already. You don't need government to spend money on things that customer will pay for voluntarily. It's only useless boondoggles that no one wants that require government funding.

Don’t dodge my question what I’m asking is very simple. If $$ is spent on equipment that increases a grids efficiency would that be considered an infrastructure spend by you?

Yes it would. Now show me where they plan to do that.