I miss Trump

Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

$60 billion in tax increases. $350 billion bailout for states unrelated to Covid. California teachers are already planning to gift themselves bonuses of up to $6,000 with the money.


I think the wealthy are doing alright..
Of course the wealthy are doing fine... where do you think the trillions of dollars of new stimulus ends up going?
Then why are you for it?

Lemming mentality the left are told what to think and they obey.
says the trump Humper...
 
Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?
Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.
There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?
there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.
Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy
Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.
Is that your great grandfather in your signature?
 
Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

$60 billion in tax increases. $350 billion bailout for states unrelated to Covid. California teachers are already planning to gift themselves bonuses of up to $6,000 with the money.


I think the wealthy are doing alright..
Of course the wealthy are doing fine... where do you think the trillions of dollars of new stimulus ends up going?
Then why are you for it?
Because our people and businesses need it. Why wouldn’t I be for it?
I thought libs were supposed to be against any government spending that benefits the rich.
Like with most things, you think wrong
 
Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?
Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.
There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?
there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.
Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy
Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.
Is that your great grandfather in your signature?
It's the senile pedophile you voted for, moron.
 
Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?
Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.
There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?
there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.
Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy
Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.
If you did the "simple division" then you post your numbers. What a fucking twat you still are. Know nothing and post everything. Asshole.
$621 billion for transportation includes:

  • $115 billion for modernizing roads, highways, and bridges -
  • $20 billion for road safety – pork, not infrastructure
  • $85 billion for public transit – waste of money
  • $80 billion for Amtrak and freight rail service – What the fuck does this mean?
  • $174 billion for electric vehicles – pork, not infrastructure
  • $25 billion for airports
  • $17 billion for ports
  • $20 billion for neighborhoods historically excluded from transportation investments – pork, not infrastructure
  • $25 billion to fund new projects – meaningless. Not infrastructure.
  • $50 billion for infrastructure resilience, with a special emphasis on more vulnerable areas – pork, not infrastructure
Total

$621 - $20 - $80 - $174 - $20 - $25 - $50 = $301

$111 billion for water infrastructure includes:
  • $45 billion towards fully eliminating lead pipes through various programs – this is a scam
  • $56 billion in loans and grants to help modernize water systems around the country – they don’t need modernizing.
  • $10 billion for monitoring and fixing substances in drinking water – What substances?
$0

Broadband and power
  • $100 billion for broadband – we can solve this issue by giving people a Starlink account. Furthermore, it’s just another form of welfare.
  • $100 billion for power infrastructure includes:
    • $16 billion towards plugging old wells and cleaning up abandoned mines – not infrastructure
    • $5 billion towards revamping former industrial and energy sites – what the fuck is “revamping
    • $10 billion for the creation of a Civilian Climate Corps - Creae a propaganda and brainwashing dept.
$0

Housing and education

$213 billion for creating and retrofitting over 2 million housing units, with a $40 billion investment in public housing infrastructure- Housgin is nott infrastructure. This is just more welfare.
  • $100 billion for upgrading and building public schools – New School buildings should already be paid for. The money that was supposed to pay for them when down the teacher’s union sewer hole.
  • $12 billion for community college infrastructure - welfare
  • $25 billion for upgrading childcare facilities and making it more widely accessible
    • This is accompanied by a tax credit to incentivize building childcare at Americans' places of work - welfare
  • $18 billion to modernize Veterans Affairs hospitals, as well as $10 billion for federal buildings. The government already spends vast amounts on its buildings. No one means government office buildings when they use the term “infrastucture.”
  • $400 billion towards home/community care for the elderly and disabled
    • This would expand access, and seek to improve wages, benefits, and unionization for workers in the industry. – welfare
$0

Research and development
  • $180 billion towards R&D includes:
    • $50 billion for the National Science Foundation
    • $30 billion for innovation and job creation R&D
    • $40 billion in upgrading research infrastructure, with half allocated to Historically Black College and Universities (HBCUs) as well as "Minority Serving Institutions" (MSIs)
    • $10 billion for those HBCUs and MSIs, as well as $15 billion to create over 200 centers at them to serve as research incubators
    • $35 billion in climate research and development
R & D isn’t infrastructure, especially if it’s for “climate research,” which is nothing more than propaganda.

$300 billion for American manufacturing and small business
  • $50 billion for a new office for a new office focused on domestic industry – we don’t need any new government agencies
  • $50 billion for research and manufacturing for semiconductors – the Semiconductor industry has been doing fine without government help.
  • $30 billion to create new jobs and fend off losses during future pandemics - welfare
  • $46 billion for federal buying, with an emphasis on various clean technologies – clean energy boondoggle
  • $20 billion for regional innovation hubs – government boondoggle
  • $14 billion towards increasing competitiveness through technological advances – government boondoggle
  • $52 billion to domestic manufacturers – for what?
  • $31 billion for programs providing credit, R&D funding, and venture capital to small businesses – Don’t’ we already have this? It’s called the SBA, and it’s a boondoggle
  • $5 billion to create a new "Rural Partnership Program," aimed at supporting local rural efforts – welfare
$100 billion for workforce development includes:
  • $40 billion towards career services and training for workers who have lost jobs - welfare
  • $12 billion in targeted funding towards "workers facing some of the greatest challenges," prioritizing underserved and hard hit communities, with $5 billion towards "evidence-based community violence prevention programs" - welfare
  • $48 billion towards worker protection and development infrastructure, including an expansion of apprenticeships, with a particular emphasis on women and people of color – welfare.
Total actual spending on infrastructure? $302 billion – much of that is for boondoggles like Amtrack and high speed rail
Every bit of it is JOBS

Republicans are against everything...including jobs
It's supposed to be an infrastructure bill, not a jobs bill, moron.

I'm against lies, fraud and boondoggles. That means I'm against everything Democrats are for.
Do you know the name of the Bill?
"The American Jobs Plan."
The American Jobs plan. That’s not labeled infrastructure now is it? A large chunk of it is def infrastructure. Not zero and not 5% but a large chunk. But it also is not labeled as an all infrastructure plan. So stop lying
 
Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

$60 billion in tax increases. $350 billion bailout for states unrelated to Covid. California teachers are already planning to gift themselves bonuses of up to $6,000 with the money.


I think the wealthy are doing alright..
Of course the wealthy are doing fine... where do you think the trillions of dollars of new stimulus ends up going?
Then why are you for it?
Because our people and businesses need it. Why wouldn’t I be for it?
I thought libs were supposed to be against any government spending that benefits the rich.
Like with most things, you think wrong
I can't count all the lefties in here who have objected to a tax cut because rich people might get some of it.
 
Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?
Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.
There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?
there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.
Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy
Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.
Sure, $174B in electric vehicle charging stations. $115B for fixing roads and bridges. $80B for transit system. $80B for Amtrak repairs. $25B for airport upgrades. $17B for ports and waterways.

$213B to upgrade and repair homes and commercial buildings. 100B for broadband. $100B for public schools. $111B for water systems. $100B for the electric grid.

There’s plenty more but I don’t want to embarrass you too bad. 5%?!?! Ha
The $174 billion isn't for charging stations. It's for subsidies to buy EVs.

Amtrak should be flushed down the toilet. It's a money losing boondoggle.

Housing is not infrastructure. Housing is a consumer good. Why should the government spend money on commercial buildings? That's not infrastructure, and such spending would be a magnet for corruption.

By "the electric grid," they mean create the smart grid to make their impossible dreams of renewable energy sound feasible.

If government wants to provide deadbeats with internet, then let them give people who can't afford it a Starlink account. I'm sure it will be less than 10% of the cost.

Every state already has a budget for schooling, and the voters have approved countless bond issues that were supposed to provide for new buildings, including depreciation. Where did all the money go?

Providing "water systems" is the domain of state and local government. Aside from Flynt Michagan, the country has plenty of clean water.

You didn't embarass me. Like the Biden administration, you counted welfare and boondoggles as infrastructure.
We can debate the validity of each item but the fact remains there is far more than 5% going towards infrastructure. Just because you don’t think it’s necessary doesn’t mean it’s not infrastructure
Public housing is not infrastructure. Housing is a consumer good.

Wifi is also a consumer good. Anyone can get wifi if they are willing to pay for it. We don't need government to supply it. Dims are always complaining about monopolies, but then they are always creating them.

Amtrak is infrastructure, but it's a money losing boondoggle, and it will always be one.
How is broadband different than roads and the post office?
I already told you: anyone can get it if they are willing to pay for it. However, I don't believe government should be funding the other two items either.
Well there’s a lot of things the government does that you don’t believe they should do. Fact remains they do it and fact remains these things are infrastructure whether you agree with investing in them or not.
 
Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?
Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.
There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?
there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.
Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy
Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.
If you did the "simple division" then you post your numbers. What a fucking twat you still are. Know nothing and post everything. Asshole.
$621 billion for transportation includes:

  • $115 billion for modernizing roads, highways, and bridges -
  • $20 billion for road safety – pork, not infrastructure
  • $85 billion for public transit – waste of money
  • $80 billion for Amtrak and freight rail service – What the fuck does this mean?
  • $174 billion for electric vehicles – pork, not infrastructure
  • $25 billion for airports
  • $17 billion for ports
  • $20 billion for neighborhoods historically excluded from transportation investments – pork, not infrastructure
  • $25 billion to fund new projects – meaningless. Not infrastructure.
  • $50 billion for infrastructure resilience, with a special emphasis on more vulnerable areas – pork, not infrastructure
Total

$621 - $20 - $80 - $174 - $20 - $25 - $50 = $301

$111 billion for water infrastructure includes:
  • $45 billion towards fully eliminating lead pipes through various programs – this is a scam
  • $56 billion in loans and grants to help modernize water systems around the country – they don’t need modernizing.
  • $10 billion for monitoring and fixing substances in drinking water – What substances?
$0

Broadband and power
  • $100 billion for broadband – we can solve this issue by giving people a Starlink account. Furthermore, it’s just another form of welfare.
  • $100 billion for power infrastructure includes:
    • $16 billion towards plugging old wells and cleaning up abandoned mines – not infrastructure
    • $5 billion towards revamping former industrial and energy sites – what the fuck is “revamping
    • $10 billion for the creation of a Civilian Climate Corps - Creae a propaganda and brainwashing dept.
$0

Housing and education

$213 billion for creating and retrofitting over 2 million housing units, with a $40 billion investment in public housing infrastructure- Housgin is nott infrastructure. This is just more welfare.
  • $100 billion for upgrading and building public schools – New School buildings should already be paid for. The money that was supposed to pay for them when down the teacher’s union sewer hole.
  • $12 billion for community college infrastructure - welfare
  • $25 billion for upgrading childcare facilities and making it more widely accessible
    • This is accompanied by a tax credit to incentivize building childcare at Americans' places of work - welfare
  • $18 billion to modernize Veterans Affairs hospitals, as well as $10 billion for federal buildings. The government already spends vast amounts on its buildings. No one means government office buildings when they use the term “infrastucture.”
  • $400 billion towards home/community care for the elderly and disabled
    • This would expand access, and seek to improve wages, benefits, and unionization for workers in the industry. – welfare
$0

Research and development
  • $180 billion towards R&D includes:
    • $50 billion for the National Science Foundation
    • $30 billion for innovation and job creation R&D
    • $40 billion in upgrading research infrastructure, with half allocated to Historically Black College and Universities (HBCUs) as well as "Minority Serving Institutions" (MSIs)
    • $10 billion for those HBCUs and MSIs, as well as $15 billion to create over 200 centers at them to serve as research incubators
    • $35 billion in climate research and development
R & D isn’t infrastructure, especially if it’s for “climate research,” which is nothing more than propaganda.

$300 billion for American manufacturing and small business
  • $50 billion for a new office for a new office focused on domestic industry – we don’t need any new government agencies
  • $50 billion for research and manufacturing for semiconductors – the Semiconductor industry has been doing fine without government help.
  • $30 billion to create new jobs and fend off losses during future pandemics - welfare
  • $46 billion for federal buying, with an emphasis on various clean technologies – clean energy boondoggle
  • $20 billion for regional innovation hubs – government boondoggle
  • $14 billion towards increasing competitiveness through technological advances – government boondoggle
  • $52 billion to domestic manufacturers – for what?
  • $31 billion for programs providing credit, R&D funding, and venture capital to small businesses – Don’t’ we already have this? It’s called the SBA, and it’s a boondoggle
  • $5 billion to create a new "Rural Partnership Program," aimed at supporting local rural efforts – welfare
$100 billion for workforce development includes:
  • $40 billion towards career services and training for workers who have lost jobs - welfare
  • $12 billion in targeted funding towards "workers facing some of the greatest challenges," prioritizing underserved and hard hit communities, with $5 billion towards "evidence-based community violence prevention programs" - welfare
  • $48 billion towards worker protection and development infrastructure, including an expansion of apprenticeships, with a particular emphasis on women and people of color – welfare.
Total actual spending on infrastructure? $302 billion – much of that is for boondoggles like Amtrack and high speed rail
Every bit of it is JOBS

Republicans are against everything...including jobs
It's supposed to be an infrastructure bill, not a jobs bill, moron.

I'm against lies, fraud and boondoggles. That means I'm against everything Democrats are for.
Do you know the name of the Bill?
"The American Jobs Plan."
The American Jobs plan. That’s not labeled infrastructure now is it? A large chunk of it is def infrastructure. Not zero and not 5% but a large chunk. But it also is not labeled as an all infrastructure plan. So stop lying

I'll give you 15%, but a lot of that is useless pork.

That's how they're selling it, moron. Only a small piece of it is infrastructure. The rest of it is useless pork or welfare.
 
do you consider an energy grid and power distribution as infrastructure?
 
Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?
Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.
There’s no infrastructure? Really? Well what would an example of an infrastructure project be in your mind?
there's about 5%. Infrastructure would be a bridge, a road, an airport, a damn.
Haha, ok so it’s now not zero it’s 5%, which i guarantee you are either pulling out of your ass or parroting from a right wing propaganda media source. Don’t be lazy
Wrong, turd. I did some simple division.

Please show an accounting of anything more than $100 billion in infrastructure.
Sure, $174B in electric vehicle charging stations. $115B for fixing roads and bridges. $80B for transit system. $80B for Amtrak repairs. $25B for airport upgrades. $17B for ports and waterways.

$213B to upgrade and repair homes and commercial buildings. 100B for broadband. $100B for public schools. $111B for water systems. $100B for the electric grid.

There’s plenty more but I don’t want to embarrass you too bad. 5%?!?! Ha
The $174 billion isn't for charging stations. It's for subsidies to buy EVs.

Amtrak should be flushed down the toilet. It's a money losing boondoggle.

Housing is not infrastructure. Housing is a consumer good. Why should the government spend money on commercial buildings? That's not infrastructure, and such spending would be a magnet for corruption.

By "the electric grid," they mean create the smart grid to make their impossible dreams of renewable energy sound feasible.

If government wants to provide deadbeats with internet, then let them give people who can't afford it a Starlink account. I'm sure it will be less than 10% of the cost.

Every state already has a budget for schooling, and the voters have approved countless bond issues that were supposed to provide for new buildings, including depreciation. Where did all the money go?

Providing "water systems" is the domain of state and local government. Aside from Flynt Michagan, the country has plenty of clean water.

You didn't embarass me. Like the Biden administration, you counted welfare and boondoggles as infrastructure.
We can debate the validity of each item but the fact remains there is far more than 5% going towards infrastructure. Just because you don’t think it’s necessary doesn’t mean it’s not infrastructure
Public housing is not infrastructure. Housing is a consumer good.

Wifi is also a consumer good. Anyone can get wifi if they are willing to pay for it. We don't need government to supply it. Dims are always complaining about monopolies, but then they are always creating them.

Amtrak is infrastructure, but it's a money losing boondoggle, and it will always be one.
How is broadband different than roads and the post office?
I already told you: anyone can get it if they are willing to pay for it. However, I don't believe government should be funding the other two items either.
Well there’s a lot of things the government does that you don’t believe they should do. Fact remains they do it and fact remains these things are infrastructure whether you agree with investing in them or not.
Public housing is not infrastructure. It's welfare. The fact the government does it doesn't mean government should do it. Our past experience with public housing should be proof of that.
 
Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

$60 billion in tax increases. $350 billion bailout for states unrelated to Covid. California teachers are already planning to gift themselves bonuses of up to $6,000 with the money.


I think the wealthy are doing alright..
Of course the wealthy are doing fine... where do you think the trillions of dollars of new stimulus ends up going?
Then why are you for it?
Because our people and businesses need it. Why wouldn’t I be for it?
I thought libs were supposed to be against any government spending that benefits the rich.
Like with most things, you think wrong
I can't count all the lefties in here who have objected to a tax cut because rich people might get some of it.
And...?
 
do you consider an energy grid and power distribution as infrastructure?
Yes, but the so-called "smart grid" is a boondoggle intended to facilitate another boondoggle: green energy. Power companies have all the money they need to buy infrastructure that people are actually willing to pay for.
 
Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?

$60 billion in tax increases. $350 billion bailout for states unrelated to Covid. California teachers are already planning to gift themselves bonuses of up to $6,000 with the money.


I think the wealthy are doing alright..
Of course the wealthy are doing fine... where do you think the trillions of dollars of new stimulus ends up going?
Then why are you for it?
Because our people and businesses need it. Why wouldn’t I be for it?
I thought libs were supposed to be against any government spending that benefits the rich.
Like with most things, you think wrong
I can't count all the lefties in here who have objected to a tax cut because rich people might get some of it.
And...?
You should be opposd to the so-called "stimulus" for the same reason.
 
Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?
Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.
I’m surprised that you can spell infrastructure since you don’t understand what it means.
 
Like Trump or not he was totally transparent and would take any question anytime.

Trump meant what he said and said what he meant.
So bleach is good to inject?
You should try it
Nope, I’m not an idiot follower of the former president and current loser.
You’re just an idiot and a loser. Got it. Thanks for confirming.
Sure, did you bleach you ass for the former president and current loser?
 
Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?
Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.
I’m surprised that you can spell infrastructure since you don’t understand what it means.
I understand it far better than you, NAZI.
 
Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?
Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.
I’m surprised that you can spell infrastructure since you don’t understand what it means.
I understand it far better than you, NAZI.
I doubt you understand much. Can you show actual prove you can understand something.
 
Ugh i dont.
Whats the big differences between this covid bill and the ones trump signed? Besides biden putting more oversight on the loan process so billionaires arent getting bailed out by our great grandchildren?
Biden is providing more oversight? His "infrastructure" is nothing but a grab bag of every welfare program any Democrat ever wanted. There's no infrastructure in it.

You are certifiably brain-dead.
I’m surprised that you can spell infrastructure since you don’t understand what it means.
I understand it far better than you, NAZI.
I doubt you understand much. Can you show actual prove you can understand something.
I understand that you're an imbecile who does nothing but insult people.
 

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