I hope this is the case

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Bush was the head of the CIA and told Iran to hold the hostages until after the election. And Reagan did not make friends with Iran after Carter. Why not? He failed.

The U.S. and Iran effectively broke ties following the 1979 Iranian Revolution and the subsequent Iran Hostage Crisis (1979–1981), during which 52 Americans were held for 444 days. This event, following the 1953 CIA-backed coup, transformed Iran from a close ally into an adversary, leading to broken diplomatic relations and lasting economic sanctions.

• 1953 Coup: The U.S. (and UK) orchestrated the removal of Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh to protect oil interests, fueling anti-American sentiment.
• 1979 Revolution: Ayatollah Khomeini seized power, replacing the U.S.-backed Shah and declaring the U.S. the "Great Satan".
• 1980 Hostage Crisis: Washington officially severed diplomatic ties and imposed major sanctions after students seized the U.S. embassy.
• 1984 Terror Designation: The U.S. designated Iran a "state sponsor of terrorism," a status that remains in place.
• 1988 Airspace Incident: The US Navy shot down Iran Air Flight 655, killing 290 civilians, which worsened the perception of hostility.

Reagan made things worse. He did not fix the problem.

• The 1980s Iran-Iraq War: The U.S. tacitly supported Iraq during its eight-year war with Iran, even when Iraq used chemical weapons.

• Axis of Evil" (2002): Despite Iran offering secret assistance to the U.S. after 9/11, President George W. Bush labeled Iran part of an "Axis of Evil", deeply wounding chances for reconciliation.
• Nuclear Deal Withdrawal (2018): After a brief period of cooperation under the 2015 Nuclear Deal (JCPOA), the Trump administration unilaterally withdrew and reimposed "maximum pressure" sanctions.

Bush was head of the CIA under Carter? You have got to stop posting while under the influence of mind-altering substances!

 

[sealybobo]

Bush was head of the CIA under Carter? You have got to stop posting while under the influence of mind-altering substances!

Well he had CIA connections and they told Iran to hold the hostages. If they did, Reagan and Bush would do the Iran Contra

The CIA was mad at the guy Carter appointed. He fired 800 CIA agents.

In January 1976, Ford brought Bush back to Washington to become the director of central intelligence (DCI), placing him in charge of the CIA.

During Bush's year in charge of the CIA, the U.S. national security apparatus actively supported Operation Condor operations and right-wing military dictatorships in Latin America.

In his capacity as DCI, Bush gave national security briefings to Jimmy Carter both as a presidential candidate and as president-elect. Bush then stepped down as DCI on the day of Carter's inauguration, January 20, 1977

 

[kyzr]

So Trump wants to open the straight of Hormuz, which was already open before the war - that he started....right. It will take a miracle to turn around all these mistakes, and have prices come down to a great margin before the midterms.

So you should be happy. Democrats will get a big blue wave in the mid-terms because Trump decided to end Iran's nuclear weapons program. If it was a stupid move politically, you may be right, even if Iran gives up its enriched uranium, voters may still punish Republicans for the high gas prices.

 

[toobfreak]

So you should be happy. Democrats will get a big blue wave in the mid-terms

Maybe they will but maybe they won't. Just ask yourself: add up all the things democrats have done to hurt voters and this country:

• Send gangs of crazed mobs to attack police trying to arrest criminals.
• Have tied up millions of people from collecting a paycheck for months.
• Seem to root for country that wants to nuke us.
• Refuses to conceded they work for America and put America first.
• Have shut down the DHS, the coast guard, and other vital agencies of national defense in a time of war.
• Have crippled airlines and airports ruining millions of trips for business and vacation unable to check through via TSA.

Just to name a few. How does anyone vote for that?

 

[JanetTheGreat]

So you should be happy. Democrats will get a big blue wave in the mid-terms because Trump decided to end Iran's nuclear weapons program. If it was a stupid move politically, you may be right, even if Iran gives up its enriched uranium, voters may still punish Republicans for the high gas prices.

If the Republicans lose the midterms, they themselves will bear responsibility for it - they have the House, Senate, and Presidency. If they still lose when having all 3 of those under their control, its entirely on them.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

Maybe they will but maybe they won't. Just ask yourself: add up all the things democrats have done to hurt voters and this country:

• Send gangs of crazed mobs to attack police trying to arrest criminals.
• Have tied up millions of people from collecting a paycheck for months.
• Seem to root for country that wants to nuke us.
• Refuses to conceded they work for America and put America first.
• Have shut down the DHS, the coast guard, and other vital agencies of national defense in a time of war.
• Have crippled airlines and airports ruining millions of trips for business and vacation unable to check through via TSA.

Just to name a few. How does anyone vote for that?

I don't understand how people can vote Democrat - voting Democrat means you are voting for more fraud, abuse of power, DEI policies, etc.

 

[kyzr]

If the Republicans lose the midterms, they themselves will bear responsibility for it - they have the House, Senate, and Presidency. If they still lose when having all 3 of those under their control, its entirely on them.

Almost true. Unbiased coverage from the MSM would make that post true. But you are correct. Reality is what it is.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Being this is Victor Davis Hanson the leftists will blow it off. That's fine. Hopefully this is what Trump is pursuing. No nukes, no terrorist funding etc.

He’s as wrong as Krugman

 

[Invisibleflash]

Being this is Victor Davis Hanson the leftists will blow it off. That's fine. Hopefully this is what Trump is pursuing. No nukes, no terrorist funding etc.

He is a MAGAt, so he pipes the party line. When Iran unconditionally surrenders and the Jews move into Iran to Gazafy Iran...then you know it has collapsed, MAGAts.

MAGAts, here is the deal. There is no agreement Iran can make with Trump other than unconditional surrender. And if Iran does that, it will be dismantled for the Greater Israel project. AKA it will cease to exist as a county the same way the other countries on the Jews list of 7 countries in the Middle East were destroyed by Jewmerica.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

#4.

Could be a WAR CRIME.




It depends on how they are being used. Under international law, intentionally targeting civilian infrastructure is a war crime unless that infrastructure provides a direct military advantage.
Key Legal Criteria
Principle of Distinction: Military forces must distinguish between civilian objects and military objectives.
Military Necessity: Bridges and power plants are "dual-use." They can be legal targets only if they are actively making an "effective contribution to military action" (e.g., a bridge used to transport tanks).
Proportionality: Even if a target is military, an attack is a war crime if the expected harm to civilians (like mass starvation or hospital failure due to power loss) outweighs the direct military gain.
Note: Broadly destroying a nation's power grid to "break" the population or cause civilization-wide collapse is strictly prohibited and considered a war crime.

The Only War Crime Is Losing the War

The air-conditioned ethics of the Geneva Convention proves the rulers' protective desire to kill off or demoralize fighting men. It's pretty easy to overthrow cowards if warriors come back with any pride.

 

[LibertyWeeps]

I love it how you guys are now saying as long as Trump doesn't jack gas up to pandemic levels, he's doing okay.

You must be a fuching moron.

• President Donald Trump said he will blockade Iran until it agrees to a nuclear deal.
• But it could take a while before the regime feels enough economic pressure.
• Iran has enough oil storage to buy it at least a month and maybe longer, analysts say.
• This gives Tehran time to ramp down production without damaging its fields, they say.

Locked in a standoff with Iran that will break only when economic pain is no longer tolerable, President Donald Trump may have to maintain his naval blockade against Iran for weeks — forcing serious economic consequences on the world.

The oil supply shock, meanwhile, grows worse every day Iran keeps the strait closed, putting pressure on the U.S. as the global economic damage mounts.




“The question for me is who has a longer runway — Trump or Iran,” said Fernando Ferreira, the head of Rapidan Energy’s geopolitical risk service.

Core inflation hit its highest level since November 2023.

“This is a split-screen economy,” said Heather Long, chief economist at Navy Federal Credit Union. “Companies and investors involved in AI are on fire. Meanwhile, middle and moderate income households are struggling with high gas prices and inflation that’s back at the hottest level in three years.”

The inflation report indicated that the bulk of the price pressure came from goods, which rose 1.4%, boosted by an 11.6% surge in energy goods and services. Services prices overall rose 0.3%.

The rise in energy prices appeared to cut into inflation-adjusted consumer spending.

According to the GDP tally, personal spending increased just 1.6% for the month as outlays for goods decreased 0.1%. Real final sales to private domestic purchasers, a more detailed yardstick for consumer demand, accelerated 2.5%. Spending had a tail in the first quarter: personal consumption expenditures jumped 0.9% in March, pushed by leaping prices at the pump, which are now above $4 a gallon.

A 4.4% increase in government spending, including a 9.3% rise at the federal level, also contributed to the quarterly gains.

If you want to see a full fledged, psycho-tarded moron.........take a look in the mirror.

 

[toomuchtime_]

He is a MAGAt, so he pipes the party line. When Iran unconditionally surrenders and the Jews move into Iran to Gazafy Iran...then you know it has collapsed, MAGAts.

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MAGAts, here is the deal. There is no agreement Iran can make with Trump other than unconditional surrender. And if Iran does that, it will be dismantled for the Greater Israel project. AKA it will cease to exist as a county the same way the other countries on the Jews list of 7 countries in the Middle East were destroyed by Jewmerica.

That's insane. If the ayatollahs lose, the Iranians win.

 

[westwall]

Yet they are still there.

For now.

 

[eagle1462010]

What would you have done if you were Carter? Don't answer. It'll be bullshit. Like Trump saying Obama would do exactly what Trump's doing right now. Hypocrites.

It happened on Peanuts Heads watch and you blamed Reagan and Bush.

Works both ways on blame huh?

 

[eagle1462010]

Well he had CIA connections and they told Iran to hold the hostages. If they did, Reagan and Bush would do the Iran Contra

The CIA was mad at the guy Carter appointed. He fired 800 CIA agents.

In January 1976, Ford brought Bush back to Washington to become the director of central intelligence (DCI), placing him in charge of the CIA.

During Bush's year in charge of the CIA, the U.S. national security apparatus actively supported Operation Condor operations and right-wing military dictatorships in Latin America.

In his capacity as DCI, Bush gave national security briefings to Jimmy Carter both as a presidential candidate and as president-elect. Bush then stepped down as DCI on the day of Carter's inauguration, January 20, 1977

And again you make excuses for Peanut Head. Carter set in motion our problems today with Iran, Gaza, West Bank He pressured Israel to give up this land FOR PEACE.

And since then they have been attacked by proxies from these locations

 

[eagle1462010]

He is a MAGAt, so he pipes the party line. When Iran unconditionally surrenders and the Jews move into Iran to Gazafy Iran...then you know it has collapsed, MAGAts.

View attachment 1250444

MAGAts, here is the deal. There is no agreement Iran can make with Trump other than unconditional surrender. And if Iran does that, it will be dismantled for the Greater Israel project. AKA it will cease to exist as a county the same way the other countries on the Jews list of 7 countries in the Middle East were destroyed by Jewmerica.

Unconditional sounds good to mr

 

[dudmuck]

Politicians have to stand on their actual records. If Trump and the GOP don't improve affordability they will pay in the next election. For Trump it means opening Hormuz sooner rather than later. The EU is in dire straits because they are running out of jet fuel. Italy is sending 4 ships, hopefully other NATO countries will join the fight to open Hormuz.

 

[kyzr]

So you want Iran to get nukes and ICBMs, I don't.

 

[dudmuck]

So you want Iran to get nukes and ICBMs, I don't.

that was done on May 8th 2018 by Trump.

 

[kyzr]

that was done on May 8th 2018 by Trump.

No, that was done by Obama when he gave Iran $56,000,000,000.
The JCPOA had a 10 year time limit, Trump's "no nukes" has no time limit.

On May 8th 2018 Trump: