Asclepias
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Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together would be better for the job than Drumpf. Hes a ******* failure at being a leader. The sooner orange man is removed the better for all americans.
I can’t imagine how Trump supporters are going to spin the next few months
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Asclepias
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I agree with part of your claim. Anyone including the local dogcatcher will get my vote over Drumpf. We have to remove that incompetent fuckup ASAP
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That seems to be the problem I see.
Trump turned to the states and said......you find your own test kits and respirators.
Basically making each state compete among themselves.
We need centralized control of critical supplies
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Hey moron that underreported number would also refer to those that have died. As in, yeah, the amount of deaths is higher than the reported number of a few hundred.
You keeping doing this pointless calculation like it’s supposed to mean something. The GLOBAL death rate of CoronaVirus is 3.4% and the GLOBAL death rate of the flu is 0.1%.
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Ha ha ha ha
Here is when you are going to hear my mouth.
Candidates Biden and Sanders have access to the reports as well.
What the hell they said in those same days?
Talk to me.
I will tell you this. "Aggressive transmission" is not a synonymous of a damn killer transmission in a disease.A four years old can be hitting your belly for minutes and you might only feel he is bothering you and never hurting you. This sickness is affecting badly people with health conditions, it is true they must be protected, such is the moral move to do.
However, you catch the disease, have the symptoms for two weeks, and later keep going, what is your complaint? Are you going to swear you never got sick before and recovered later?
Yup. President Trump indeed ignored Bill Burr, he didn't cash his stocks at the beginning of the storm.
Up to that moment, tell me, how many cases were reported of people affected by the virus? How many deaths?
Can't you understand that no authority in the world will create a critical status in their lands until the disease has indeed reached their place and is felt very badly?
You only mention people in the current administration giving warnings, but what Biden and Sanders said to show "their leadership" in this scenario?
I will tell you what they said: NOTHING.
Your Democrat candidates kept their mouth shut. They ignored the crisis as well.
All your Democrat candidates. including potential Cuomo- didn't say sh*t, didn't do nothing, they were zero at the left in this story. So, don't blame the president, because surely your Democrat candidates should have acted WORST if they were in power in this current situation.
Read my posts.
I still am against the current taken from this administration.
I think differently.
My opinion still stands that people and business should have continued as usual and to concentrate only on the protection of the elder and people with health conditions.
My opinion is that no one knows if isolation will erase this sickness forever or if this disease will appear every year like the Flu.
And about president Trump, I understand he has been trying to bring hope, to keep business running, trying to avoid the current economical disaster because the crazy spread of a virus.
When you are in charge of a country like the US, you just can't jump to radical measures until these are necessary.
These are my words, I'm the one who came with this phrase long ago: In science you can't predict what you can't control, then, what the heck are you complaining about when at this current moment no one can predict anything with certainty about this virus?
Stop pointing fingers on others, because surely you should have made worst decisions if you were the president.
Here is when you are going to hear my mouth.
Candidates Biden and Sanders have access to the reports as well.
What the hell they said in those same days?
Talk to me.
I will tell you this. "Aggressive transmission" is not a synonymous of a damn killer transmission in a disease.A four years old can be hitting your belly for minutes and you might only feel he is bothering you and never hurting you. This sickness is affecting badly people with health conditions, it is true they must be protected, such is the moral move to do.
However, you catch the disease, have the symptoms for two weeks, and later keep going, what is your complaint? Are you going to swear you never got sick before and recovered later?
Yup. President Trump indeed ignored Bill Burr, he didn't cash his stocks at the beginning of the storm.
Up to that moment, tell me, how many cases were reported of people affected by the virus? How many deaths?
Can't you understand that no authority in the world will create a critical status in their lands until the disease has indeed reached their place and is felt very badly?
You only mention people in the current administration giving warnings, but what Biden and Sanders said to show "their leadership" in this scenario?
I will tell you what they said: NOTHING.
Your Democrat candidates kept their mouth shut. They ignored the crisis as well.
All your Democrat candidates. including potential Cuomo- didn't say sh*t, didn't do nothing, they were zero at the left in this story. So, don't blame the president, because surely your Democrat candidates should have acted WORST if they were in power in this current situation.
Read my posts.
I still am against the current taken from this administration.
I think differently.
My opinion still stands that people and business should have continued as usual and to concentrate only on the protection of the elder and people with health conditions.
My opinion is that no one knows if isolation will erase this sickness forever or if this disease will appear every year like the Flu.
And about president Trump, I understand he has been trying to bring hope, to keep business running, trying to avoid the current economical disaster because the crazy spread of a virus.
When you are in charge of a country like the US, you just can't jump to radical measures until these are necessary.
These are my words, I'm the one who came with this phrase long ago: In science you can't predict what you can't control, then, what the heck are you complaining about when at this current moment no one can predict anything with certainty about this virus?
Stop pointing fingers on others, because surely you should have made worst decisions if you were the president.
It wouldn't matter who was in the WH, but the left of course will continue to point their disgusting and divisive fingers:
Dr. Richard Hatchett: 60-70% of world's population could become infected with coronavirus
Dr. Richard Hatchett: 60-70% of world's population could become infected with coronavirus
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3.4%?
Worldwide, more than 212,000 people have been infected with the new coronavirus, and at least 8,700 people have died.
That calculates to .04%
One chart shows different countries' current coronavirus death rates, based on the known number of cases and deaths
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The global death rate is irrelevant. It includes countries like italy where all the people who die are over 70, and they have a very high population of elderly, and where their culture is much more conducive to transmission of the virus, and where they had a significant presence of Chinese nationals
People who die are all lying in a hospital bed, and doctors know exactly why they died. No doctor ever spoke with people who had the virus and never reported it. The first number is likely to be very close to 100% accurate.
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No, that's 4%.
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Wrong, moron. Trump is the best president we've had since Calvin Coolidge.
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Lol quit pretending you have any authority on the subject. You’re just making shit up.
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Drumpf is an incompetent fuckup with idiots for supporters. Drumpf is thee worst president in the history of presidents.
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Could This Explain Why the Coronavirus Death Rate in Italy Is So High?
An adviser to Italy's minister of health, Professor Walter Ricciardi, said the coronavirus death rate in Italy may be higher than in other countries not only because of demographics -- Italy has the second oldest population in the world -- but also because of the way Italy records deaths of those who have tested positive for the coronavirus.
"The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus," Prof. Riccardi told The Telegraph.
"On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 percent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 percent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three," the professor explains.
The professor is not alone, as others say it's way too early to know the true mortality rate so long as the number of mild cases in the country remains unknown.
Italy's older population may also explain the large number of deaths being attributed to the coronavirus.
"The age of our patients in hospitals is substantially older - the median is 67, while in China it was 46," the professor says. "So essentially the age distribution of our patients is squeezed to an older age and this is substantial in increasing the lethality."
A study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 87 percent of the deaths in Italy attributed to the coronavirus and 40 percent of known infections have been people 70 years of age or older.
The coronavirus obviously poses a threat to the health and well-being of people all around the world, but it's probably a good idea to balance the panic and all the dire forecasts with a little bit of critical thinking.
An adviser to Italy's minister of health, Professor Walter Ricciardi, said the coronavirus death rate in Italy may be higher than in other countries not only because of demographics -- Italy has the second oldest population in the world -- but also because of the way Italy records deaths of those who have tested positive for the coronavirus.
"The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus," Prof. Riccardi told The Telegraph.
"On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 percent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 percent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three," the professor explains.
The professor is not alone, as others say it's way too early to know the true mortality rate so long as the number of mild cases in the country remains unknown.
Italy's older population may also explain the large number of deaths being attributed to the coronavirus.
"The age of our patients in hospitals is substantially older - the median is 67, while in China it was 46," the professor says. "So essentially the age distribution of our patients is squeezed to an older age and this is substantial in increasing the lethality."
A study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 87 percent of the deaths in Italy attributed to the coronavirus and 40 percent of known infections have been people 70 years of age or older.
The coronavirus obviously poses a threat to the health and well-being of people all around the world, but it's probably a good idea to balance the panic and all the dire forecasts with a little bit of critical thinking.
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The common understanding at that moment was the spreading of the virus person to person. It was ignored since when the virus has been infecting people. You must understand that you show the symptoms with a certain delay after you got infected.
It is understood that to stop Chinese people coming to the US was late already, but in reality the virus can't be detected unless you use the proper equipment, and not only Chinese people were the affected ones. Italians coming from their country might have brought the disease as well.
Something in what president Trump is right, is that State governments have the responsibility to act in conjunction with the Federal government in this emergency.
State authorities are very autonomous to create their own laws, their own sanctuary cities and more, These State authorities have also the total freedom and responsibility to act against the current disease.
Look at Washington DC, which is looking for becoming a State but until today is letting people to be in great numbers to see the flowers of the cherry trees in downtown, while real established States are prohibiting people in streets and parks and beaches in their cities. Tel me about "leadership".
I disagree with the isolation measure as a solution, but by respect to the authority and the rest of people who think that is the correct answer to the spread of the virus, I avoid going places if it is not necessary, and avoid contact with others.
And I do it against my will but I'm trying to be part of the suggested solution.
Why start pointing fingers on others when no country in the world has make it better?
Of course lots of deaths will be the consequence, this is about a disease with unknown vaccine to stop it or alleviate its spreading.
Making more masks and other supplies is not an act of magic, it is to find current reserves and how much is available, is to plan the distribution, is to reach the prime material to start production, and all of this in a moment when "everybody" wants to have the mask.
When you say "prevention", you must understand that if this is about a car, prevention means to have a cover valve gasket at hand because the car has 120,000 running valves and might start leaking at any moment. It happens that the car only has 60,000 running miles, but very recently has been announced the pcv is faulty in that brand, model and year of the car and one consequence will be a leaking valve cover gasket.
You will order the gasket to have it at hand, but you still don't see why you must hurry. And funny, you still will run your car without gasket replacement even when you noticed the first leaks.
Prevention is in many cases not a good idea.
I was working for a government agency for years. Sometimes a supply was ordered like to be in storage to last its demand for the next 20 years. It happens that after three years the supply became obsolete because a better model with better qualities came to the market. There you have a preventive measure that didn't work very well, the waste of such amount of supplies good for decades but changed every certain amount of years anyway.
Look at the case of the "masks", according to what the administration suggest, the ones needed are not the common dust masks but special ones for doctors and nurses. The ones in stock in hospitals might not be good to prevent the contagious of this virus.
In reality, everybody is "learning" more about this disease each day, so we must do our part the best we can., That's all.
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Trump is the best president we've had since Calvin Coolidge.
Asclepias
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Drumpf is an incompetent fuckup with idiots for supporters. Drumpf is thee worst president in the history of presidents.
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Trump is the best president we've had since Calvin Coolidge.
Asclepias
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Drumpf is an incompetent fuckup with idiots for supporters. Drumpf is thee worst president in the history of presidents.
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