How do we fix this?

[yidnar]

Not a lie and beside the point.

bull ! the Russia collusion and pee tape has been absolutely been proven as a lie ! the left used those lies to get a warrant and spy on the POTUS ! remember Strzoks revealed email of an insurance policy !

 

[berg80]

Yep. A coup.

Yes, an attempted coup.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

How do we fix this?
The Democrats used our own government agencies (FBI and DOJ) to smear Trump with their crazy Russian Collusion Conspiracy, and nobody has gone to prison for this, and the Media is almost silent about this travesty.

 

[g5000]

In the Dominion lawsuit against Sidney Powell, she made the exact same argument Tucker Carlson made when he was sued for slander.

She argued that no reasonable person would believe her bullshit.

No, really.

As a former Trump campaign lawyer, Sidney Powell did more than perhaps anyone to push the big lie that President Joe Biden’s victory over Donald Trump in last November’s presidential election was the result of fraud involving Dominion Voting Systems machines. Now, however, lawyers representing her have acknowledged that the “big lie” is, in fact, just that.

Powell faces a $1.3 billion defamation lawsuit from Dominion because of her false claims, and on Monday her lawyers offered her defense: that “no reasonable person would conclude that the statements” Powell made about election fraud “were truly statements of fact.”

Sidney Powell gives up the game, admits Trump’s election conspiracies weren’t factual

In response to Dominion’s defamation lawsuit, Powell’s lawyers say "reasonable people" wouldn’t buy her claims.

www.vox.com

 

[g5000]

So there you go, folks. Sidney Powell has admitted the Big Lie about the election being stolen was made up.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

If you have facts that refute the ones presented please post them.

you are a liar
there was voter fraud and election rigging in the 2020 election

 

[daveman]

That's not the issue. The issue is so many Trump supporters believing a demonstrable lie. Actually, many.

Ahhh, now we're getting somewhere.

You want the government to mandate your beliefs on everyone, with threat of violence for non-compliance. Now, don't sputter and fume; that's the logical conclusion to your OP. You want to punish heretics.

For that matter, you have not demonstrated that the election wasn't stolen, as many believe. You have SAID it wasn't -- because you were told to say it -- but that's all. No proof it was honest.

And you wonder why people question the election?

 

[g5000]

In short, Sidney Powell says if you bleeved her bullshit, you must be an idiot.

 

[daveman]

Argument from ignorance. The burden of proof is on those who claim fraud. And the losers failed. Catastrophically failed. Laughably failed.

Uh huh. When those who have the authority to decide refuse to listen to one side, it's not a failure of the evidence, it's a sign the system is broken.

But, hey! The Democrat won! That's all that matters, right?

 

[yidnar]

Not a lie and beside the point.

Because I see references made all the time to Schiff's claim he had evidence of collusion, I thought I'd address it.

In other words, Special Counsel Mueller’s inability to prove a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian government in no way “exonerates” the president of any wrongdoing. The president’s wrongdoing has already been proven. A four-page letter to Congress written by an attorney general Trump appointed because his first attorney general wouldn’t do enough to undercut the investigation doesn’t nullify any of the examples Schiff listed on Thursday.

“I do not think that conduct, criminal or not, is OK,” concluded Schiff. “The day we do think that’s OK is the day we will look back and say that is the day America lost its way.”

Adam Schiff Presents His 'Evidence of Collusion'​

The House Intelligence Committee chairman and foe of President Trump delivered a fiery speech on Thursday morning

www.rollingstone.com

He left out this.

US Treasury Provides Missing Link: Manafort’s Partner Gave Campaign Polling Data to Kremlin in 2016​

The Treasury Department says Konstantin Kilimnik “provided the Russian Intelligence Services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy."

www.justsecurity.org

So the answer to the question about whether Schiff lied about his claim is no. He's right about something else too. America, or at least some Americans, have lost their way. They remain loyal to a traitor who attempted a coup.

Yes, an attempted coup.

 

[g5000]

you are a liar
there was voter fraud and election rigging in the 2020 election

Repeating the Big Lie does not make it true.

That's magical thinking.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Lawsuits were filed, recounts were performed. There was no bamboo, no Italian satellites changing votes, no issue with Dominion machines, no fraud of significance. Trump just lost because he was a lousy prez.

Nope, the lawsuits were summarily dismissed before any evidence was provided on grounds. That’s all.

 

[daveman]

These claims have been debunked countless times.

Again -- by people saying they've been debunked.

Democrats sure do like the Big Lie.

 

[daveman]

Over and over they failed. So the only thing left to do was stop Biden's certification by force.

Without weapons?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

These claims have been debunked countless times.

Nope. You accepted the explanation. They weren’t debunked at all.

 

[daveman]

Nope. You accepted the explanation. They weren’t debunked at all.

He believed the Democrats' Big Lie -- exactly as ordered.

 

[yidnar]

Repeating the Big Lie does not make it true.

That's magical thinking.

why did the dnc collude with Russians through middle man Steele to get a fake dossier in order to spy and get a fisa warrant on the POTUS ? that seems to be a bigger threat to an election than a crowd of mostly middle aged people trespassing and taking selfies in the capital .

 

[g5000]

Again -- by people saying they've been debunked.

Democrats sure do like the Big Lie.

No, they have actually been debunked.

You want an example?

During a rally at Atlanta’s State Farm Arena, Alky Rudy showed a truncated clip of what he said was a "suitcase" of illegal ballots being pulled out from under a table after vote counting had stopped.

Trump brought this "evidence" up with Barr and Barr looked into it. Barr found that if you watch the ENTIRE video, it was not a suitcase but a box used to secure ballots which are ubiquitous in Georgia for such purposes and that they were opened to count the legal ballots within in full view of observers.

The claim by Rudy that vote counting had stopped and then the "suitcases" were then snuck into the counting is pure horseshit.

If you watched the hearings today, you would have heard Barr testify to these facts. And then he said when this was explained to Trump, Trump accepted his explanation, and yet the very next day Trump repeated the lies about the "suitcases".

That is deliberately willful lying on Trump's part.

Video Doesn't Show 'Suitcases' of Illegal Ballots in Georgia - FactCheck.org

The Trump campaign is falsely claiming that a video captured election workers in Georgia adding thousands of illegal ballots that were brought into an Atlanta facility in suspicious “suitcases” on election night.

www.factcheck.org

But state officials told us that the full video shows the supposed “suitcases” were actually standard containers used to secure ballots, and that the ballots in question were opened and prepared for counting earlier in the night in full view of observers. They said the campaign presented limited, selective parts of the footage.

You rubes were deliberately hoaxed.

 

[g5000]

And all the rubes will say, "NUH-UH!"

 

[g5000]

why did the dnc collude with Russians through middle man Steele to get a fake dossier in order to spy and get a fisa warrant on the POTUS ? that seems to be a bigger threat to an election than a crowd of mostly middle aged people trespassing and taking selfies in the capital .

I'm not going to be sidetracked by more deluded horseshit that has nothing to do with the topic.