Homeschooling: Your Views, Please

[nodoginnafight]

It's hard to find a broad-based independent study on the academic success (at the college level) of homeschool students. The ones I seem have either used a very limited sample size or were produced by pro-homeschool organizations.

They tend to indicate that homeschool students fare a bit better than traditionally schooled students.

 

[Meathead]

"What you might deem satisfactory for yourself and your children might not be for me or mine. We all have different standards."

Our society, however, operates on a platform of basic concepts, and parents should empower their children to master those concepts.

Of course, but I fail to see your point. The bottom line is the best education possible within the means of both society and the parent. It is incumbent on the parents then, if society is unable deliver to their satisfaction, to provide.

But as I said, we all have different standards. For better or worse, these very standards often reflect themselves in the success of our progeny.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The point is obvious; it's in your second sentence above. The democratic state and the parents have a shared responsibility to create a good education of the children.

If our parents as a whole would increase their involvment with their childrens' education by 10%, the positive results would be astounding.

 

[rightwinger]

I would keep my son out of US public education until university. I've seen far too much to trust an obviously broken system with someone that important to me. If I couldn't send him to private schools I would see to his education myself.

Fortunately, it is not an issue where I live.

As with many parents who homeschool or send their kids to private school

It is all about giving up control

I don't know. What you might deem satisfactory for yourself and your children might not be for me or mine. We all have different standards. I make no apologies.

Here, children are tested then separated into different schools, especially on entering high school. My son is attending what is called a "gymnasium" with other students being prepped for university studies. Others go to school more focused on trades. I don't have to worry about the mediocrity of his education. Additionally, I don't have to worry about gangs, racial tensions and worry far less about drugs and violence than my counterparts in the vast majority of the US.

A problem I have with many parents is a need to control every aspect of their childs life

What they learn, who they can associate with, everything that enters their mouth, everything they watch on TV or read on the internet....

Parents think they are protecting their child but are turning them into social misfits

 

[Meathead]

The point is obvious; it's in your second sentence above. The democratic state and the parents have a shared responsibility to create a good education of the children.

If our parents as a whole would increase their involvment with their childrens' education by 10%, the positive results would be astounding.

Sorry, I thought your point would not be the amazingly obvious. I agree. But the standards are set by the state to accommodate the expectations of the majority of the parents, which are deemed to low by some. Additionally, in the American system children are not vetted by ability and accomplishment. This essentially sets a lower overall standard by limiting the curriculum to a level that does not challenge the better performers.

 

[Chuckt]

As long as home schools met state requirements for a public education, go ahead.

The public school system in Philadelphia had a 50 or 60 percent graduation rate.
Should a public school system performing like that meet state requirements?

 

[Samson]

I agree with that, rw. My concern is that students in Private or Home school do not get an objective bloc of instruction on Critical Thinking. Some parents have told me over the years that they want to "protect" their children from CT. If the entire community thought as they did, maybe that makes sense. But our children and grandchildren live in a great and grand diversity of humanity, and they need to be prepared for it.

My concern is people that form concerns with no data basis.

 

[Samson]

The point is obvious; it's in your second sentence above. The democratic state and the parents have a shared responsibility to create a good education of the children.

If our parents as a whole would increase their involvment with their childrens' education by 10%, the positive results would be astounding.

10%? In your opinion? Anything besides your overactive imagination working here?

 

[g5000]

I was homeschooled as a child.

There are arguments made for and against it.

Would you please share your views on it here?

I have found that homeschooling parents also tend to believe some of the stupidest shit. They tend to be anti-vaxxers, believe in homeopathy, and all kinds of other idiotic things.

Morons raising their kids to be the dumbest and most vulnerable members of the herd.

 

[rightwinger]

I was homeschooled as a child.

There are arguments made for and against it.

Would you please share your views on it here?

I have found that homeschooling parents also tend to believe some of the stupidest shit. They tend to be anti-vaxxers, believe in homeopathy, and all kinds of other idiotic things.

Morons raising their kids to be the dumbest and most vulnerable members of the herd.

Homeschool parents are more fucked up than their kids...at least the kids have an excuse

 

[Wake]

I was homeschooled as a child.

There are arguments made for and against it.

Would you please share your views on it here?

I have found that homeschooling parents also tend to believe some of the stupidest shit. They tend to be anti-vaxxers, believe in homeopathy, and all kinds of other idiotic things.

Morons raising their kids to be the dumbest and most vulnerable members of the herd.

They tend to? My parents were staunchly for immunization and medicine. I'm not sure which article says they tend to, but in my case that's not the case. People who homeschool their children aren't morons simply because they decide to homeschool their children. People who don't believe in immunization or homeopathy aren't automatically stupid because of it, either, and I would not be surprised if some people on both the Right and the Left had some of those views.

 

[nodoginnafight]

I was homeschooled as a child.

There are arguments made for and against it.

Would you please share your views on it here?

I have found that homeschooling parents also tend to believe some of the stupidest shit. They tend to be anti-vaxxers, believe in homeopathy, and all kinds of other idiotic things.

Morons raising their kids to be the dumbest and most vulnerable members of the herd.

They tend to? My parents were staunchly for immunization and medicine. I'm not sure which article says they tend to, but in my case that's not the case. People who homeschool their children aren't morons simply because they decide to homeschool their children. People who don't believe in immunization or homeopathy aren't automatically stupid because of it, either, and I would not be surprised if some people on both the Right and the Left had some of those views.

Just because there are people on the right and on the left who believe something, is no evidence that it is not stupid.

 

[Wake]

I have found that homeschooling parents also tend to believe some of the stupidest shit. They tend to be anti-vaxxers, believe in homeopathy, and all kinds of other idiotic things.

Morons raising their kids to be the dumbest and most vulnerable members of the herd.

They tend to? My parents were staunchly for immunization and medicine. I'm not sure which article says they tend to, but in my case that's not the case. People who homeschool their children aren't morons simply because they decide to homeschool their children. People who don't believe in immunization or homeopathy aren't automatically stupid because of it, either, and I would not be surprised if some people on both the Right and the Left had some of those views.

Just because there are people on the right and on the left who believe something, is no evidence that it is not stupid.

A valid point. However, that was never my contention.

 

[Steven_R]

The on paper version of homeschooling is fine, but sadly the execution leaves something to be desired in many cases. Far too many in homeschooling do it for delusional political or religious reasons and end up hamstringing their kids futures in the process. Obviously the public schools we have today need serious revamping and no one has the political will to do that, but I'm not sure taking one's kids out of an educational system over fears of indoctrination just to indoctrinate them in some other form is any better.

 

[nodoginnafight]

They tend to? My parents were staunchly for immunization and medicine. I'm not sure which article says they tend to, but in my case that's not the case. People who homeschool their children aren't morons simply because they decide to homeschool their children. People who don't believe in immunization or homeopathy aren't automatically stupid because of it, either, and I would not be surprised if some people on both the Right and the Left had some of those views.

Just because there are people on the right and on the left who believe something, is no evidence that it is not stupid.

A valid point. However, that was never my contention.

I'm sorry, so what did you mean by "and I would not be surprised if some people on both the Right and the Left had some of those views."

 

[Howey]

I was homeschooled as a child.

There are arguments made for and against it.

Would you please share your views on it here?

Homeschooling that allows a standardized curriculum taught by qualified parents teamed with social interaction and without pursuit of any personal sociological and political agendas is acceptable.

Rarely today is that possible.

 

[Wake]

Just because there are people on the right and on the left who believe something, is no evidence that it is not stupid.

A valid point. However, that was never my contention.

I'm sorry, so what did you mean by "and I would not be surprised if some people on both the Right and the Left had some of those views."

It means that I wouldn't be surprised if some people on both the political Right and Left decided to not take immunizations, or did believe in homeopathy. I didn't argue that because both political wings believe in something that it must therefore not be stupid.

 

[Skull Pilot]

If I had had kids I would have home schooled them.

 

[nodoginnafight]

A valid point. However, that was never my contention.

I'm sorry, so what did you mean by "and I would not be surprised if some people on both the Right and the Left had some of those views."

It means that I wouldn't be surprised if some people on both the political Right and Left decided to not take immunizations, or did believe in homeopathy. I didn't argue that because both political wings believe in something that it must therefore not be stupid.

Ok, thanks for clarifying. I'm not exactly sure how that ties into the rest. But it's not that big a deal anyway.

 

[nodoginnafight]

I was homeschooled as a child.

There are arguments made for and against it.

Would you please share your views on it here?

Homeschooling that allows a standardized curriculum taught by qualified parents teamed with social interaction and without pursuit of any personal sociological and political agendas is acceptable.

Rarely today is that possible.

I don't think it has ever been possible for an instructor (whether it's a parent or not) to completely conceal his or her leanings. I think the vast majority of children are much better at sorting through facts and opinions than we give them credit for.