Homeschooling: Your Views, Please

[g5000]

I was homeschooled as a child.

There are arguments made for and against it.

Would you please share your views on it here?

I have found that homeschooling parents also tend to believe some of the stupidest shit. They tend to be anti-vaxxers, believe in homeopathy, and all kinds of other idiotic things.

Morons raising their kids to be the dumbest and most vulnerable members of the herd.

They tend to?

Yes, this generation tends to:

A growing network of parents have decided to homeschool their children, in part because of their belief that mandated vaccinations for public and private school children are a dangerous overreach by state governments.

Some Parents are Home-Schooling Their Kids to Avoid Vaccinations

 

[PoliticalChic]

I suppose that, if you are determined that your child should never be any more educated than you are, homeschooling is a wonderful idea.

You're a dope.



Recent statistics from The College Board and the American College Testing Program (ACT) indicate that home schoolers are exceeding the national average test scores on both the SAT and the ACT college entrance exams. In 1999, the 2219 students who identified themselves as home schooled students on the SAT test, scored an average of 1083 (verbal 548, math 535), 67 points above the national average of 1016. A perfect SAT score is 1600. Also in 1999, 3616 home school students taking the ACT scored an average of 22.7, compared to the national average of 21, a perfect score being 36.
College-bound Home Schoolers Make Headlines (HSLDA | National Center News)

 

[Wake]

I have found that homeschooling parents also tend to believe some of the stupidest shit. They tend to be anti-vaxxers, believe in homeopathy, and all kinds of other idiotic things.

Morons raising their kids to be the dumbest and most vulnerable members of the herd.

They tend to?

Yes, this generation tends to:

A growing network of parents have decided to homeschool their children, in part because of their belief that mandated vaccinations for public and private school children are a dangerous overreach by state governments.

Some Parents are Home-Schooling Their Kids to Avoid Vaccinations

I don't really consider internet articles, because a lot of them are very biased or crazy. You can probably find an article to back up most contentions out there. What one article says something about this or that I take it with a few grains of salt.

Some homeschoolers homeschool their children for those reasons, and some don't.

 

[rightwinger]

I suppose that, if you are determined that your child should never be any more educated than you are, homeschooling is a wonderful idea.

You're a dope.



Recent statistics from The College Board and the American College Testing Program (ACT) indicate that home schoolers are exceeding the national average test scores on both the SAT and the ACT college entrance exams. In 1999, the 2219 students who identified themselves as home schooled students on the SAT test, scored an average of 1083 (verbal 548, math 535), 67 points above the national average of 1016. A perfect SAT score is 1600. Also in 1999, 3616 home school students taking the ACT scored an average of 22.7, compared to the national average of 21, a perfect score being 36.
College-bound Home Schoolers Make Headlines (HSLDA | National Center News)

So, homeschoolers are better than average....good to know that

What you don't know is how those exact same students would have done if the attended a public school. My money says they would be better than average students

 

[g5000]

They tend to?

Yes, this generation tends to:

A growing network of parents have decided to homeschool their children, in part because of their belief that mandated vaccinations for public and private school children are a dangerous overreach by state governments.

Some Parents are Home-Schooling Their Kids to Avoid Vaccinations

I don't really consider internet articles, because a lot of them are very biased or crazy.

How much evidence do you need?

The parents themselves are saying that is the reason they homeschool!

Some Miss. parents home-schooling kids to avoid vaccinations

Parents home-school to avoid vaccinating their kids

How about the New England Journal of Medicine? Implications of a 2005 Measles Outbreak in Indiana for Sustained Elimination of Measles in the United States

Of the patients with confirmed measles, 94 percent were unvaccinated, 88 percent were less than 20 years of age, and 9 percent were hospitalized. Of the 28 patients who were 5 to 19 years of age, 71 percent were home-schooled.

 

[Steven_R]

I suppose that, if you are determined that your child should never be any more educated than you are, homeschooling is a wonderful idea.

You're a dope.



Recent statistics from The College Board and the American College Testing Program (ACT) indicate that home schoolers are exceeding the national average test scores on both the SAT and the ACT college entrance exams. In 1999, the 2219 students who identified themselves as home schooled students on the SAT test, scored an average of 1083 (verbal 548, math 535), 67 points above the national average of 1016. A perfect SAT score is 1600. Also in 1999, 3616 home school students taking the ACT scored an average of 22.7, compared to the national average of 21, a perfect score being 36.
College-bound Home Schoolers Make Headlines (HSLDA | National Center News)

So, homeschoolers are better than average....good to know that

What you don't know is how those exact same students would have done if the attended a public school. My money says they would be better than average students

I'm not sure that the statistics are right in the first place. I remember being in classes with kids who were never going to college, some not going to finish HS or even have their freedom much longer, but their scores get lumped in with Straight A students. It's hard to say that average Homeschooled kids are necessarily better when the aggregate of High School Kids includes those kids actively bringing everyone else's scores down.

 

[g5000]

Texas measles outbreak linked to church

All of the school-age children infected in the Eagle Mountain outbreak were home-schooled, health officials say. Texas requires children be vaccinated before attending school.

 

[Unkotare]

As for me and mine. We did not have the skills to homeschool (read as PATIENCE). But more important, our kids are going to have to live in this world. They are going to have to take what we give them at home and bring that with them.

And home schooled kids can't do that?

???

 

[Plasmaball]

I was homeschooled as a child.

There are arguments made for and against it.

Would you please share your views on it here?

You are an argument against it...



Anyways don't care in so long they meet state standards when tested. ..

 

[Unkotare]

A problem I have with many parents is a need to control every aspect of their childs life

What they learn, who they can associate with, everything that enters their mouth, everything they watch on TV or read on the internet....

Yes, you on the left prefer the government to do that.

 

[rightwinger]

You're a dope.



Recent statistics from The College Board and the American College Testing Program (ACT) indicate that home schoolers are exceeding the national average test scores on both the SAT and the ACT college entrance exams. In 1999, the 2219 students who identified themselves as home schooled students on the SAT test, scored an average of 1083 (verbal 548, math 535), 67 points above the national average of 1016. A perfect SAT score is 1600. Also in 1999, 3616 home school students taking the ACT scored an average of 22.7, compared to the national average of 21, a perfect score being 36.
College-bound Home Schoolers Make Headlines (HSLDA | National Center News)

So, homeschoolers are better than average....good to know that

What you don't know is how those exact same students would have done if the attended a public school. My money says they would be better than average students

I'm not sure that the statistics are right in the first place. I remember being in classes with kids who were never going to college, some not going to finish HS or even have their freedom much longer, but their scores get lumped in with Straight A students. It's hard to say that average Homeschooled kids are necessarily better when the aggregate of High School Kids includes those kids actively bringing everyone else's scores down.

That was my point. The "averages" PC was touting include students who are not motivated with parents who are not motivated.

Take a homeschooled kid from a higher than average income level, with extensive parental involvement and an extensive support structure and they will do better than average in public school

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I was homeschooled as a child.

There are arguments made for and against it.

Would you please share your views on it here?

It's often used for the wrong reasons, having more to do with the patents' political and religious dogma than "quality" of education.

 

[auditor0007]

I was homeschooled as a child.

There are arguments made for and against it.

Would you please share your views on it here?

I think that for certain families it can work out very well. I would not suggest it for most people though because it is extremely demanding and takes great dedication. Obviously, it also means one parent must stay at home, which is not at all a bad thing if the family can afford it.

 

[rightwinger]

A problem I have with many parents is a need to control every aspect of their childs life

What they learn, who they can associate with, everything that enters their mouth, everything they watch on TV or read on the internet....

Yes, you on the left prefer the government to do that.

No

Actually, I prefer leaving the kid the **** alone. Let him meet his own friends, watch the TV he wants to watch, listen to the music he wants to listen to. Let him have some free time. Let him make mistakes and learn from them

 

[Unkotare]

A problem I have with many parents is a need to control every aspect of their childs life

What they learn, who they can associate with, everything that enters their mouth, everything they watch on TV or read on the internet....

Yes, you on the left prefer the government to do that.

No

Actually, I prefer leaving the kid the **** alone.

Feel free to put that brilliant parenting plan in effect for your own family. Others may have a different approach. However, since the end result of what democrats like you advocate is the government controlling every aspect of everyone's life, I have to call bullshit on your reply in general.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes, you on the left prefer the government to do that.

No

Actually, I prefer leaving the kid the **** alone. Let him meet his own friends, watch the TV he wants to watch, listen to the music he wants to listen to. Let him have some free time. Let him make mistakes and learn from them

Feel free to put that brilliant parenting plan in effect for your own family. Others may have a different approach. However, since the end result of what democrats like you advocate is the government controlling every aspect of everyone's life, I have to call bullshit on your reply in general.

I did that

I let my kids make their own friends. Some I was not too happy with but my kids made good choices and eventually dumped the friends who were bad news
I also let them go out and play without looking over their shoulder
I let them watch the TV shows they wanted to watch not the ones I thought were "good for them"
My kids ate candy and ice cream and drank soda

 

[Unkotare]

No

Actually, I prefer leaving the kid the **** alone. Let him meet his own friends, watch the TV he wants to watch, listen to the music he wants to listen to. Let him have some free time. Let him make mistakes and learn from them

Feel free to put that brilliant parenting plan in effect for your own family. Others may have a different approach. However, since the end result of what democrats like you advocate is the government controlling every aspect of everyone's life, I have to call bullshit on your reply in general.

I did that

Good for you. Your family, your business. Most will take another approach.

 

[rightwinger]

Feel free to put that brilliant parenting plan in effect for your own family. Others may have a different approach. However, since the end result of what democrats like you advocate is the government controlling every aspect of everyone's life, I have to call bullshit on your reply in general.

I did that

I let my kids make their own friends. Some I was not too happy with but my kids made good choices and eventually dumped the friends who were bad news
I also let them go out and play without looking over their shoulder
I let them watch the TV shows they wanted to watch not the ones I thought were "good for them"
My kids ate candy and ice cream and drank soda

Good for you. Your family, your business. Most will take another approach.

And they end up with little brats who are culturally illiterate, unsocial and are unabe to make decisions without asking mommy and daddy

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yes, this generation tends to:



Some Parents are Home-Schooling Their Kids to Avoid Vaccinations

I don't really consider internet articles, because a lot of them are very biased or crazy.

How much evidence do you need?

The parents themselves are saying that is the reason they homeschool!

Some Miss. parents home-schooling kids to avoid vaccinations

Parents home-school to avoid vaccinating their kids

How about the New England Journal of Medicine? Implications of a 2005 Measles Outbreak in Indiana for Sustained Elimination of Measles in the United States

Of the patients with confirmed measles, 94 percent were unvaccinated, 88 percent were less than 20 years of age, and 9 percent were hospitalized. Of the 28 patients who were 5 to 19 years of age, 71 percent were home-schooled.

OMG 71% of such a huge sample of 28 kids!!!!

We should hang ALL parents who home school over this outrage.

 

[Samson]

Yes, this generation tends to:



Some Parents are Home-Schooling Their Kids to Avoid Vaccinations

I don't really consider internet articles, because a lot of them are very biased or crazy.

How much evidence do you need?

The parents themselves are saying that is the reason they homeschool!

Some Miss. parents home-schooling kids to avoid vaccinations

Parents home-school to avoid vaccinating their kids

How about the New England Journal of Medicine? Implications of a 2005 Measles Outbreak in Indiana for Sustained Elimination of Measles in the United States

Of the patients with confirmed measles, 94 percent were unvaccinated, 88 percent were less than 20 years of age, and 9 percent were hospitalized. Of the 28 patients who were 5 to 19 years of age, 71 percent were home-schooled.

Other than supporting the fact that 71% of 28 patients (20) were homeschooled unvaccinated children. What is the point?

Homeschooling causes measels?



What caused measels in 29% of the patients 5-19 years of age that were NOT homeschooled?

Not having been vaccinated caused measels.