Homeschooling: Your Views, Please

[Cecilie1200]

And I wouldn't let a classless old moron like you anywhere near anyone in my family. What's your point?

Teachers go to school, get their degrees, they know how to do this. They aren't some religious righter attempting to add two plus two for five minutes then spending five hours on bible study...

My point, oh ignoramus, is that we aren't talking about YOUR family. Your little insult was doubly meaningless not only because your opinions are as useless as you are, but also because, unlike you, I feel no compulsion whatsoever to barge into other people's lives and families and start issuing directives and telling them how to raise their children. To the contrary, where any relations of yours are concerned, I actually think it's better if they remained quarantined away from the general population. You, on the other hand, labor under the erroneous belief that you are entitled to a say in other people's lives, and that, indeed, people are actually eager to hear what passes for "thought" in that vacuum between your ears.

Teacher go to school and get degrees. Gloryosky. So what? And they "know how to do this". The "this" that they know how to do is actually getting a degree, which is of no interest and value to me or my children whatsoever, particularly since education degrees are the Special Ed classes of the university world.

And this brings us back to the point: it's none of your business. It doesn't become your business at any point in the discussion, even if it's your obsessively-hated religious right who is daring to birth offspring and raise them without regard to what you think would be the best way to raise children that no sane man would put into YOUR womb, even with THREE bags. THEY ARE NOT YOUR CHILDREN. NO ONE ASKED YOU. And you're one of the most ignorant excuses for a biped I've ever encountered, so even if this WERE a community decision to make - which it is not - your opinion STILL would carry less weight than a puff of warm hydrogen.

Do I need to get out the Crayolas and draw you a diagram explaining how there is no drivel you can spew that is going to make it in any way, shape, or form your business how other people raise and educate the children you have absolutely nothing to do with?

HaHa, that't the way you old backwoods hags think about degrees. They aren't worth the paper they're written on. You can get your crayolas out if that's soothing for you ya nutty old goat.

No they're not my children, my children are educated.

Only someone whose major accomplishment in life is simply to have come into being would think age is an insult. "Ermigerd, you've existed longer than I have!" Pathetic.

Aside from that, the rest of your post is just about as clueless and illiterate as your lame-ass insults. I gotta hand it to you for consistency, though.

Only a leftist ass would think "Education degrees are pitiful compared to other degrees" means the same as "all degrees are worthless". Perhaps you should have spent some more time in English classes . . . or any time.

I think your posts give us a very clear picture of how "educated" any offspring you allegedly have are. While they certainly have my sympathy, you will note that I do not think my contempt for the sad excuse you make of existing entitles me to actually participate in your life decisions.

One of many differences between you and me.

 

[Samson]

This thread began with some promise, and has completely decended into poo throwing.

 

[Sarah G]

My point, oh ignoramus, is that we aren't talking about YOUR family. Your little insult was doubly meaningless not only because your opinions are as useless as you are, but also because, unlike you, I feel no compulsion whatsoever to barge into other people's lives and families and start issuing directives and telling them how to raise their children. To the contrary, where any relations of yours are concerned, I actually think it's better if they remained quarantined away from the general population. You, on the other hand, labor under the erroneous belief that you are entitled to a say in other people's lives, and that, indeed, people are actually eager to hear what passes for "thought" in that vacuum between your ears.

Teacher go to school and get degrees. Gloryosky. So what? And they "know how to do this". The "this" that they know how to do is actually getting a degree, which is of no interest and value to me or my children whatsoever, particularly since education degrees are the Special Ed classes of the university world.

And this brings us back to the point: it's none of your business. It doesn't become your business at any point in the discussion, even if it's your obsessively-hated religious right who is daring to birth offspring and raise them without regard to what you think would be the best way to raise children that no sane man would put into YOUR womb, even with THREE bags. THEY ARE NOT YOUR CHILDREN. NO ONE ASKED YOU. And you're one of the most ignorant excuses for a biped I've ever encountered, so even if this WERE a community decision to make - which it is not - your opinion STILL would carry less weight than a puff of warm hydrogen.

Do I need to get out the Crayolas and draw you a diagram explaining how there is no drivel you can spew that is going to make it in any way, shape, or form your business how other people raise and educate the children you have absolutely nothing to do with?

HaHa, that't the way you old backwoods hags think about degrees. They aren't worth the paper they're written on. You can get your crayolas out if that's soothing for you ya nutty old goat.

No they're not my children, my children are educated.

Only someone whose major accomplishment in life is simply to have come into being would think age is an insult. "Ermigerd, you've existed longer than I have!" Pathetic.

Aside from that, the rest of your post is just about as clueless and illiterate as your lame-ass insults. I gotta hand it to you for consistency, though.

Only a leftist ass would think "Education degrees are pitiful compared to other degrees" means the same as "all degrees are worthless". Perhaps you should have spent some more time in English classes . . . or any time.

I think your posts give us a very clear picture of how "educated" any offspring you allegedly have are. While they certainly have my sympathy, you will note that I do not think my contempt for the sad excuse you make of existing entitles me to actually participate in your life decisions.

One of many differences between you and me.

Who is this "us" you think you are speaking for. Everytime you show up in a thread it turns into nothing but personal attacks rather than the topic at hand. It's all you know.

Please carry on with someone down there at your own level.

 

[Wake]

This thread began with some promise, and has completely decended into poo throwing.

Well, that stinks.

 

[Samson]

This thread began with some promise, and has completely decended into poo throwing.

Well, that stinks.

Perhaps if we imagine it to be more of a puddin' wrestlin' event.....

 

[NYcarbineer]

Should homeschoolers be held to the same teacher evaluations, testing, and other scrutinies [sic] that conservatives want to hold public school teachers to,

or is this another classic example of rightwing douible [sic] standards?

Should they get the same iron-clad guarantee against accountability that liberals want to provide for public school teachers?

Or is this another classic example of left wing double standard?

Liberals don't believe that. I certainly don't. Why shouldn't a parent be required to demonstrate college level proficiency in, for example, high school chemistry, before they get authorization to teach high school chemistry?

 

[Samson]

Should homeschoolers be held to the same teacher evaluations, testing, and other scrutinies [sic] that conservatives want to hold public school teachers to,

or is this another classic example of rightwing douible [sic] standards?

Should they get the same iron-clad guarantee against accountability that liberals want to provide for public school teachers?

Or is this another classic example of left wing double standard?

Liberals don't believe that. I certainly don't. Why shouldn't a parent be required to demonstrate college level proficiency in, for example, high school chemistry, before they get authorization to teach high school chemistry?

If a person learns enough , for example, chemistry to "demonstrate proficiency" then why should it matter HOW they learned it?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Should they get the same iron-clad guarantee against accountability that liberals want to provide for public school teachers?

Or is this another classic example of left wing double standard?

Liberals don't believe that. I certainly don't. Why shouldn't a parent be required to demonstrate college level proficiency in, for example, high school chemistry, before they get authorization to teach high school chemistry?

If a person learns enough , for example, chemistry to "demonstrate proficiency" then why should it matter HOW they learned it?

It's a matter of fair and equal treatment of all teachers. You can make an argument that only certain teachers should be held to strict standards, such as their education level, the requirement they be certified, etc., etc., while others are exempted from the same,

but you can't make the argument that it is fair; you have to make the argument that it is admittedly unfair,

but such unfairness should be allowed for a greater good. Then you just have to identify the greater good and prove that it is sufficiently worthwhile.

Sort of like arguing for affirmative action, if you think about it.

 

[Unkotare]

Should homeschoolers be held to the same teacher evaluations, testing, and other scrutinies [sic] that conservatives want to hold public school teachers to,

or is this another classic example of rightwing douible [sic] standards?

Should they get the same iron-clad guarantee against accountability that liberals want to provide for public school teachers?

Or is this another classic example of left wing double standard?

Liberals don't believe that.

Conservatives don't believe that.

 

[P@triot]

Should homeschoolers be held to the same teacher evaluations, testing, and other scrutinies that conservatives want to hold public school teachers to,

or is this another classic example of rightwing douible standards?

How is it "double standards" when the parent is not PAID by the tax payer?!? When teachers start educating for free because they actually care about the education of the child (like the homeschooling parent does), then they too can avoid "evaluations".

But until that time, all you are doing is making an absurd apples-to-oranges comparison out of desperation.

 

[P@triot]

Should homeschoolers be held to the same teacher evaluations, testing, and other scrutinies [sic] that conservatives want to hold public school teachers to,

or is this another classic example of rightwing douible [sic] standards?

Should they get the same iron-clad guarantee against accountability that liberals want to provide for public school teachers?

Or is this another classic example of left wing double standard?

Liberals don't believe that. I certainly don't. Why shouldn't a parent be required to demonstrate college level proficiency in, for example, high school chemistry, before they get authorization to teach high school chemistry?

Why? Because they do not receive a salary from the tax paying population. They owe you nothing (despite your bizarre belief that they somehow how you some evidence that they are "qualified" by your standards).

It's so odd how you want people who volunteer their time to be required to display "proficiencies", be subject to "evaluations", and need "authorization", as people who receive a grossly over inflated salary, cadillac healthcare plans, executive-level pensions, and a host of other perks and benefits simply because you can't craft an intelligent argument for your disdain of homeschooling and you're not willing to be honest about it.

The truth is, you're outraged at the idea of less children to indoctrinate. Why can't you just say it?

 

[P@triot]

Seriously, they really think anyone is qualified. I don't see it that way.

Not anyone. I wouldn't let YOU teach my dog, let alone a kid.

Generally speaking, though, I trust the kid's parents a hell of a lot more than I trust some brainless, dried-up leftist **** like you with no stake in his future and a seriously overblown sense of her value to . . . well, anything, really.

And I wouldn't let a classless old moron like you anywhere near anyone in my family. What's your point?

Teachers go to school, get their degrees, they know how to do this. They aren't some religious righter attempting to add two plus two for five minutes then spending five hours on bible study...

Again, this is simply amazing. She really believes than anyone who earns a degree is "qualified" and good at their job. I wonder how she explains all of the failures by liberals who have a degree? I wonder how she explains people with degrees who are fired?

George W. Bush has a degree from Yale. Barack Hussein Obama has a degree from Harvard. So I guess, by your own "logic", that you would agree both of these men were exceptional leaders who were completely qualified to be president of the United States???

Millions of people who earned degrees are completely incompetent and unqualified for the positions they hold (nobody proves that more than Barack Obama).

 

[Politico]

u can't teach what you dont know yourself, and most parents don't know jack about squat. that's why they are parents,normally

Well as I know more than squat which is 1000% more than any gubbermint teecha. I say go for it.

 

[rightwinger]

I don't care if a parent can demonstrate their proficiency. But they should have to file a curriculum for the year and their children should have to demonstrate adequate progress.

 

[thanatos144]

I don't care if a parent can demonstrate their proficiency. But they should have to file a curriculum for the year and their children should have to demonstrate adequate progress.

So move to China if you wish to live in a country where you have to prove yourself to the government every day .

 

[zeke]

Should they get the same iron-clad guarantee against accountability that liberals want to provide for public school teachers?

Or is this another classic example of left wing double standard?

Liberals don't believe that. I certainly don't. Why shouldn't a parent be required to demonstrate college level proficiency in, for example, high school chemistry, before they get authorization to teach high school chemistry?

Why? Because they do not receive a salary from the tax paying population. They owe you nothing (despite your bizarre belief that they somehow how you some evidence that they are "qualified" by your standards).

It's so odd how you want people who volunteer their time to be required to display "proficiencies", be subject to "evaluations", and need "authorization", as people who receive a grossly over inflated salary, cadillac healthcare plans, executive-level pensions, and a host of other perks and benefits simply because you can't craft an intelligent argument for your disdain of homeschooling and you're not willing to be honest about it.

The truth is, you're outraged at the idea of less children to indoctrinate. Why can't you just say it?

Hey dog, I see by your sentence structure and grammar that you were home schooled. What by, wolves?

 

[rightwinger]

I don't care if a parent can demonstrate their proficiency. But they should have to file a curriculum for the year and their children should have to demonstrate adequate progress.

So move to China if you wish to live in a country where you have to prove yourself to the government every day .

Move to China?

That was the best you could come up with?

Our EVIL Gubmint has required that children be educated for the last hundred years. The days of "my kids don't need no book learn'n" are long gone. Why are you afraid of homeschool kids demonstrating what they have learned? Conservatives insisted that public schools do it

 

[Skull Pilot]

Worry about your own kids.

 

[thanatos144]

Worry about your own kids.

All good progressives dont have kids.....They kill them in the womb

 

[Samson]

Liberals don't believe that. I certainly don't. Why shouldn't a parent be required to demonstrate college level proficiency in, for example, high school chemistry, before they get authorization to teach high school chemistry?

If a person learns enough , for example, chemistry to "demonstrate proficiency" then why should it matter HOW they learned it?

It's a matter of fair and equal treatment of all teachers. You can make an argument that only certain teachers should be held to strict standards, such as their education level, the requirement they be certified, etc., etc., while others are exempted from the same,

but you can't make the argument that it is fair; you have to make the argument that it is admittedly unfair,

but such unfairness should be allowed for a greater good. Then you just have to identify the greater good and prove that it is sufficiently worthwhile.

Sort of like arguing for affirmative action, if you think about it.

If a student learns chemistry from anyone but state sponsored teachers then it's not fair?

It seems the accredited teachers are your primary concern, not the student.