Homeschooling: Your Views, Please

[Navy1960]

Again, Homeschooling would depend a lot on the parents devotion to see their children get a good education. You cannot blame some parents given the conditions of some public schools, and those with limited financial means who want to homeschool their children. If it was good enough for Ansel Adams, Franklin Roosevelt, Thomas Edison, Alexander Graham Bell, and many more then given parents(s) that have a genuine desire to teach their children, I can't see and issue with it.

 

[thereisnospoon]

I think its odd that any parent would believe they have to choose one over the other.

Mr H is correct about socialization but that doesn't mean parents/families cannot or should not involve themselves in their child's education.

I've seen examples of the best of both worlds combined in a child's education. I've also seen strictly home schooled kids who were social wrecks and unable to think beyond their religious brainwashing. Fundies are raising a generation of home schooled cripples.

Not saying it has to be that way but that's what I've seen.

Is it your premise that not a single home schooled child is the progeny of liberal parenting?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Im all for it. Parents have to do what is best for their children.

I have a batle about to begin up here.The NDP appear to to Seize menno children

What they are doing is seizing children because the state does not beleive in gay marriage. So the state is seizing children for re indoctrination.

Right here in Manitoba.

I have noticed one aspect of language usage by our friends to the north.
You people just love using acronyms abbreviations and initials.
Now, what is "NDP"? and what is a "menno"?

 

[Unkotare]

I'm just curious. How does a parent without a foreign language skill teach a child a foreign language,

where HS graduation requires credits in a foreign language?

You hire a tutor to compliment. Or you as the parent take a class in the language you are going to instruct your child in. It's called problem solving, something public education fails to impart....

My oldest son wants to learn Japanese, God knows why. My ex-husband thought that was spiffy, and they plan to get a self-taught program - probably Rosetta Stone - for it and learn it together.

It would be better for them to take a class together and then try to find a few native speakers to have a language exchange with a few times a week, in addition to that program.

 

[P@triot]

The data proves that homeschooling produces far superior results over the failed liberal public model which exists solely to indoctrinate instead of educate...

“A recent study shows that homeschooled kids score almost twice as high on exams as public school students. Other studies show that homeschooled kids score 72 points higher than the national average on SAT exams.(15)

Homeschoolers are more likely to attend college, are more likely to graduate, and have higher college GPAs (Grade Point Averages) than other students.(16)

The old wives’ tale spread by the teachers’ unions (who are afraid of competition) is that homeschoolers are not “socialized.” Well, the facts are in. Homeschoolers are almost twice as involved in their local community or church as public school students, and almost three times as involved in politics.(17)

Homeschooled children also have far fewer behavioral problems.”(18)

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Citations:
(15) Do Homeschool Kids Really Rate Better on Standardized Tests?

(16) 15 Key Facts About Homeschooled Kids in College - OnlineCollege.org

(17) Homeschool World - Articles - The Facts Are In: Homeschoolers Excel - Practical Homeschooling Magazine

(18) HSLDA | Socialization: Homeschoolers Are in the Real World

That's not because they are homeschooled. It's because they are not the average children.

For starters, how do you homeschool when both parents have to work?

First of all [MENTION=18701]NYcarbineer[/MENTION], that was not the question. The question was "is it better to homeschool or is public school better"?

Second, that's the individual's problem to figure out for themselves (why do you think government has to solve every problem for every individual). There are a million solutions to this "problem" - don't have children if you can't take care of them properly. Or downsize the lavish lifestyle and have one parent leave the work force to educate their child. Or educate them at night after work (where is it written that homeschooled children must be educated during the same hours that public schools are in operation???). Or hire private tutors to educate the child at home while the parents are working (that's what Wayne Allen Root did with his daughter Dakota who went on to Harvard and then Oxford).

Third, where did I say "close public schools"? I simply answered the question honestly and backed it up with a plethora of data and sources for that data.

 

[P@triot]

What a lame response. I would never allow some of these loons to educate my child and I don't believe they are qualified to educate their own. The religious right started this push for homeschooling just as they did the push for everyone being allowed to carry guns everywhere.

They're building bridges to the distant past because this is all they know. It's just another method of indoctrination.

Well, that's kinda the point, isn't it? We're not talking about YOUR child. We're talking about THEIRS. And YOU are talking about them needing a license, ie. permission, from YOU to teach THEIR child. As always, you fuckstain leftists want to deal yourself into decisions that are none of your business and for which you will bear none of the consequences.

Why are you all for "Do whatever you want with it" in regards to children when they're in the womb, and then think they become public frigging property the instant they squirt out?

We understand their reasons for wanting to bring down public education in America and we disagree with you.

Um, how exactly does homeschooling "bring down public education"? It creates less kids in the classroom, which means more personal attention from the teachers, which in theory should result in better results.

Unless, of course, you fear that homeschooling will produce better results which will yet again expose liberal failure (and if seems painfully obvious that this is the case).

These public school teachers have degrees, why wouldn't we trust them more than we would backwoods homeschoolers who have ulterior motives.

George Bush had a degree from Yale sweetie - how did that work out?

Barack Obama has a degree from Harvard - and is one of the most unqualified, incompetent buffoon' we have ever seen.

I know people with degrees who can't even hold a conversation without being laughed at because, while they are capable of regurgitating useless information spoon fed to them from a classroom and a book, they have zero communication skills and their brain can't think for itself (it can only repeat what it has been trained with).

Now let's look at the list of people who never had a college degree: Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Michael Dell, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg (shall I continue sweetie?). All successful billionaires who never graduated with a degree.

It is fall down hilarious how brainwashed you are. You actually believe that a degree means "smart/qualified" while not having one (like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs) means "dumb/unqualified". Guess what that kind of immature and asinine thinking makes you (hint: dumb/unqualified).

You don't want to educate your kids, you just want to add to your voter pool. All they understand is compliance.

Even if that is true, what business is that of yours? Like all liberals, you want to play Adolf Hitler and control other people. Worry about yourself. Worry about the education of your own ****'n children sweetie. It's none of your business.

Think of it this way Nazi - if their children aren't "educated", that just gives your child that much more advantage in life.

 

[P@triot]

I have a better idea. We replace all schools with this

https://www.google.com/

Homeschooling is fine for those who are capable of doing it. But in Conservatopia, the advocacy for homeschooling is just one vehicle for denigrating our public schools.

Seriously, they really think anyone is qualified. I don't see it that way.

Of course not - you can't see anything other than "I need government to do it for me"

I've known a dozen ORDINARY people who have homeschooled their children and EVERY single one of those children have scored above average on all state requirements. Period.

Liberals can't figure out WHY - which I find hilarious. It's not rocket science, yet they can't figure it out

 

[Unkotare]

Homeschooling is fine for those who are capable of doing it. But in Conservatopia, the advocacy for homeschooling is just one vehicle for denigrating our public schools.

Seriously, they really think anyone is qualified. I don't see it that way.

Of course not - you can't see anything other than "I need government to do it for me"

I've known a dozen ORDINARY people who have homeschooled their children and EVERY single one of those children have scored above average on all state requirements. Period.

Liberals can't figure out WHY - which I find hilarious. It's not rocket science, yet they can't figure it out

Of course they can figure it out, they just don't want to. For liberals, reality must be made to reflect their politics, not the other way around.

 

[Skull Pilot]

That's not because they are homeschooled. It's because they are not the average children.

For starters, how do you homeschool when both parents have to work?

The parents can work different shifts.

Where there's a will and all that.

Oh sure, parents can just go to the job tree and pluck off any job they want, at any hours.

Yeah because there are no second and third shift jobs anywhere.

Like most people you are full of excuses and reasons why things can't be done. It's a wonder you can get out of bed in the morning.

 

[Skull Pilot]

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I have a better idea. We replace all schools with this

https://www.google.com/

Homeschooling is fine for those who are capable of doing it. But in Conservatopia, the advocacy for homeschooling is just one vehicle for denigrating our public schools.

No it's a parent doing what he or she thinks is best for their child. Something a control freak liberal can't seem to grasp.

 

[Skull Pilot]

i'm just curious. How does a parent without a foreign language skill teach a child a foreign language,

where hs graduation requires credits in a foreign language?

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Yeah because people are absolutely incapable of learning anything but from a government employee.

How about a parent hires a tutor to help in the education of their child and what if that tutor gave lessons via video chat?

But I guess that can't be done either right?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Some reasons that are not right

- I need to show everyone that I am a super parent
- I need to make sure my kid is not exposed to "Evolution"
- I need to control every aspect of who your child meets, what they read, what they hear

Which one of those is your ******* business?

Ironically, that last line is a central tenet of the modern day statist.

Or the modern evangelical parnt, for that matter, as well.

 

[Unkotare]

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Yeah because people are absolutely incapable of learning anything but from a government employee.

How about a parent hires a tutor to help in the education of their child and what if that tutor gave lessons via video chat?

But I guess that can't be done either right?

It can and is quite often. People all over the world learn that way from people all over the world.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Which one of those is your ******* business?

Ironically, that last line is a central tenet of the modern day statist.

Or the modern evangelical parnt, for that matter, as well.

Hit a nerve Comrade?

 

[Unkotare]

I have nothing against home schooling. If you are a motivated parent and are doing it for the right reasons it is good for the kid and good for the parent.

I start to have problems with it in High School where subjects get more complicated and a student really should be out on his own. Again, I would like to see more situations where it is not an all or nothing situation and the kid can attend certain classes not suited for home schooling

I also laugh at those who hold up home schooling as an answer to our educational problems. The 10% who are qualified and have the time to homeschool will not solve our problems

From whence did you pull the figure 10%?

 

[rightwinger]

I have nothing against home schooling. If you are a motivated parent and are doing it for the right reasons it is good for the kid and good for the parent.

I start to have problems with it in High School where subjects get more complicated and a student really should be out on his own. Again, I would like to see more situations where it is not an all or nothing situation and the kid can attend certain classes not suited for home schooling

I also laugh at those who hold up home schooling as an answer to our educational problems. The 10% who are qualified and have the time to homeschool will not solve our problems

From whence did you pull the figure 10%?

I was being generous

In recent studies by the American Association of Residential Scholatic Resources only 18.7% of US families, both married iand single parents, have the capability to take time off to educate their children( assuming 2.3 children). Only 43.62 percent of parents have achieved the academic credentials to educate beyond the elementary level. Add in the 22.59 percent of children who suffer from academic difficulties and you get 8.13 percent who are qualified and have the time to homeschool

This of course is predicated on the assumption that 82.7 percent of statistics quoted on the Internet are made up on the spot.

 

[Skull Pilot]

I have nothing against home schooling. If you are a motivated parent and are doing it for the right reasons it is good for the kid and good for the parent.

I start to have problems with it in High School where subjects get more complicated and a student really should be out on his own. Again, I would like to see more situations where it is not an all or nothing situation and the kid can attend certain classes not suited for home schooling

I also laugh at those who hold up home schooling as an answer to our educational problems. The 10% who are qualified and have the time to homeschool will not solve our problems

From whence did you pull the figure 10%?

I was being generous

Home schooling has nothing to do with solving the problems of our piss poor government schools.

It is a personal choice parents make as to what is better for their kids. That's all it is and as such it's none of your business.

Just because you won't do it does not mean no one should.

If I were to have kids I would home school.

One on one teaching is the best way to learn. The required course material could be covered in less time leaving more time for other pursuits like music, sports, or other educational endeavors not normally taught in schools.

I really don't see what your problem is with a parent doing any of this.

 

[rightwinger]

From whence did you pull the figure 10%?

I was being generous

Home schooling has nothing to do with solving the problems of our piss poor government schools.

It is a personal choice parents make as to what is better for their kids. That's all it is and as such it's none of your business.

Just because you won't do it does not mean no one should.

If I were to have kids I would home school.

One on one teaching is the best way to learn. The required course material could be covered in less time leaving more time for other pursuits like music, sports, or other educational endeavors not normally taught in schools.

I really don't see what your problem is with a parent doing any of this.

I've already said I thought it was a good thing. Just not a solution for everyone.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

If you can get your kids out of the public school system absolutely do it. I send my son to a private school.

 

[Unkotare]

I have nothing against home schooling. If you are a motivated parent and are doing it for the right reasons it is good for the kid and good for the parent.

I start to have problems with it in High School where subjects get more complicated and a student really should be out on his own. Again, I would like to see more situations where it is not an all or nothing situation and the kid can attend certain classes not suited for home schooling

I also laugh at those who hold up home schooling as an answer to our educational problems. The 10% who are qualified and have the time to homeschool will not solve our problems

From whence did you pull the figure 10%?

I was being generous