Homeschooling: Your Views, Please

[Unkotare]

One on one teaching is the best way to learn. .

Eh, not always.

 

[rightwinger]

From whence did you pull the figure 10%?

I was being generous

In recent studies by the American Association of Residential Scholatic Resources only 18.7% of US families, both married iand single parents, have the capability to take time off to educate their children( assuming 2.3 children). Only 43.62 percent of parents have achieved the academic credentials to educate beyond the elementary level. Add in the 22.59 percent of children who suffer from academic difficulties and you get 8.13 percent who are qualified and have the time to homeschool

This of course is predicated on the assumption that 82.7 percent of statistics quoted on the Internet are made up on the spot.

 

[thanatos144]

I'm just curious. How does a parent without a foreign language skill teach a child a foreign language,

where HS graduation requires credits in a foreign language?

 

[P@triot]

I'm just curious. How does a parent without a foreign language skill teach a child a foreign language,

where HS graduation requires credits in a foreign language?

That literally made me burst out laughing

It's so funny how liberals think they need government even to flush their toilet - they just can't see the simple solution.

Aside from thanatos's brilliant solution here (and damn did he knock it out of the park - even how he presented it), you can also hire these things called "tutors". Many public and private school teachers supplement their income by tutoring.

In short, there are a millions solutions to every problem - none of which include government and taxes - if you are independent and self-sufficient.

 

[P@triot]

"It’s once again establishing and sticking to the principle that the children belong to the government and not to the parents. Anyone who cares about truth in education and not a monolithic education by the central government, they have to be concerned about this and yet unfortunately it’s marching right along and too many schools are going along with it" - Dr. Ron Paul

 

[JFK_USA]

I am for homeschooling IF the proper subjects are being taught.

I am from Missouri where the film "Jesus Camp" was largely based and I remember seeing that lesson on science that kid was getting and it was appalling. How that is considered science education is ridiculous.

You don't get to change Pythagoras' theory or Evolution because it might be blasphemous to your religion. The facts are the facts and that's what children should be taught. You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

 

[Unkotare]

I am for homeschooling IF the proper subjects are being taught.

"Proper"?

 

[P@triot]

I am for homeschooling IF the proper subjects are being taught.

I am from Missouri where the film "Jesus Camp" was largely based and I remember seeing that lesson on science that kid was getting and it was appalling. How that is considered science education is ridiculous.

You don't get to change Pythagoras' theory or Evolution because it might be blasphemous to your religion. The facts are the facts and that's what children should be taught. You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

It's not nearly as appalling as the arrogance of you and those in the science community who think they know what they are talking about - but in reality - don't have a ******* clue.

In the 1950's and 1960's, doctors were certain that giving athletes water was the worst thing you could do because they were certain it would cause "cramps". So throughout entire brutal football practices, kids were completely denied liquids. Worse still, doctors were certain that the solution after severely dehydrating athletes was to give them ******* SALT TABLETS when they came in from practice (yeah, nothing smarter than giving a dehydrated person SALT). Then kids started dying and doctors started scratching their smug, arrogant heads. Turns out denying athletes water is the worst thing you could possibly do.

Just a few years ago, the medical community - in their infinite smug wisdom - declared trans fats to be the ultimate enemy of diet. Immediately, McDonald's and the rest banned it from all of their foods out of panic that they would lose business. Last month they declare, after an extensive study, that trans fat have absolutely no effect in any capacity on health. Oops.

I'm so tired of smug, arrogant assholes such as yourself deciding what the "facts" are and what someone else's children should or should not be taught. If you want to decide what is best for a child, have your own. Otherwise, SHUT THE **** UP you brain-fried pot head.

 

[Cecilie1200]

What a lame response. I would never allow some of these loons to educate my child and I don't believe they are qualified to educate their own. The religious right started this push for homeschooling just as they did the push for everyone being allowed to carry guns everywhere.

They're building bridges to the distant past because this is all they know. It's just another method of indoctrination.

Well, that's kinda the point, isn't it? We're not talking about YOUR child. We're talking about THEIRS. And YOU are talking about them needing a license, ie. permission, from YOU to teach THEIR child. As always, you fuckstain leftists want to deal yourself into decisions that are none of your business and for which you will bear none of the consequences.

Why are you all for "Do whatever you want with it" in regards to children when they're in the womb, and then think they become public frigging property the instant they squirt out?

We understand their reasons for wanting to bring down public education in America and we disagree with you. These public school teachers have degrees, why wouldn't we trust them more than we would backwoods homeschoolers who have ulterior motives.

You don't want to educate your kids, you just want to add to your voter pool. All they understand is compliance.

Try and understand this, dimbulb. You and your leftist compatriots are 100% about the institution, to the point of thinking that the children are merely pawns contributing to the success or failure of the institution. Homeschoolers, and conservatives in general, understand that institutions like the public schools have no intrinsic value whatsoever, and matter only in how effectively they serve the individuals, in this case the children. To that end, homeschoolers don't "want to bring down public schools". They are supremely indifferent to the ******* public schools one way or another. What they want is the success of their children, whom you consider to be irrelevant except as fodder for your all-important government.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Should homeschoolers be held to the same teacher evaluations, testing, and other scrutinies that conservatives want to hold public school teachers to,

or is this another classic example of rightwing douible standards?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Joseph Fritzl was a home schooler.

I'm looking at the avatar picture, trying to figure out why anyone would bother to make a "case against religion". What's the point? If you don't like religion, don't freaking believe in it. No one's going to hold a gun on you and frogmarch you into church every Sunday. Why do you need to evangelize against it and try to convince other people not to believe?

 

[Cecilie1200]

I have a better idea. We replace all schools with this

https://www.google.com/

Homeschooling is fine for those who are capable of doing it. But in Conservatopia, the advocacy for homeschooling is just one vehicle for denigrating our public schools.

Seriously, they really think anyone is qualified. I don't see it that way.

Not anyone. I wouldn't let YOU teach my dog, let alone a kid.

Generally speaking, though, I trust the kid's parents a hell of a lot more than I trust some brainless, dried-up leftist **** like you with no stake in his future and a seriously overblown sense of her value to . . . well, anything, really.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You hire a tutor to compliment. Or you as the parent take a class in the language you are going to instruct your child in. It's called problem solving, something public education fails to impart....

My oldest son wants to learn Japanese, God knows why. My ex-husband thought that was spiffy, and they plan to get a self-taught program - probably Rosetta Stone - for it and learn it together.

It would be better for them to take a class together and then try to find a few native speakers to have a language exchange with a few times a week, in addition to that program.

I expect they will probably do the "native speaker" thing eventually, but I actually have more faith in my husband's intelligence and self-educating ability than I would in a class.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I am for homeschooling IF the proper subjects are being taught.

I am from Missouri where the film "Jesus Camp" was largely based and I remember seeing that lesson on science that kid was getting and it was appalling. How that is considered science education is ridiculous.

You don't get to change Pythagoras' theory or Evolution because it might be blasphemous to your religion. The facts are the facts and that's what children should be taught. You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

Still trying to figure out how you calculate that it's any of YOUR business to decide "the proper subjects" for OTHER people's children.

Lemme break it down for you, chum. If you weren't in the delivery room either sweating to squirt that kid out, or having your hand broken by the person squirting the kid out, you don't have a vote. It's none of your business. Butt the hell out and go produce and raise your own rugrats.

Case closed.

 

[rightwinger]

I am for homeschooling IF the proper subjects are being taught.

I am from Missouri where the film "Jesus Camp" was largely based and I remember seeing that lesson on science that kid was getting and it was appalling. How that is considered science education is ridiculous.

You don't get to change Pythagoras' theory or Evolution because it might be blasphemous to your religion. The facts are the facts and that's what children should be taught. You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

Still trying to figure out how you calculate that it's any of YOUR business to decide "the proper subjects" for OTHER people's children.

Lemme break it down for you, chum. If you weren't in the delivery room either sweating to squirt that kid out, or having your hand broken by the person squirting the kid out, you don't have a vote. It's none of your business. Butt the hell out and go produce and raise your own rugrats.

Case closed.

OK...you are the parent. It is entirely your responsibility to decide what your child will learn....the Bible, the Bible and the Bible

None of anybody's business

 

[Sarah G]

Homeschooling is fine for those who are capable of doing it. But in Conservatopia, the advocacy for homeschooling is just one vehicle for denigrating our public schools.

Seriously, they really think anyone is qualified. I don't see it that way.

Not anyone. I wouldn't let YOU teach my dog, let alone a kid.

Generally speaking, though, I trust the kid's parents a hell of a lot more than I trust some brainless, dried-up leftist **** like you with no stake in his future and a seriously overblown sense of her value to . . . well, anything, really.

And I wouldn't let a classless old moron like you anywhere near anyone in my family. What's your point?

Teachers go to school, get their degrees, they know how to do this. They aren't some religious righter attempting to add two plus two for five minutes then spending five hours on bible study...

 

[Skull Pilot]

Should homeschoolers be held to the same teacher evaluations, testing, and other scrutinies that conservatives want to hold public school teachers to,

or is this another classic example of rightwing douible standards?

All that matters are the results.

Only in a public school system would a Ph.D. physicist who worked at NASA not be allowed to teach a class but some guy with a BS from Podunk State U who minored in education is preferred

 

[Unkotare]

Should homeschoolers be held to the same teacher evaluations, testing, and other scrutinies [sic] that conservatives want to hold public school teachers to,

or is this another classic example of rightwing douible [sic] standards?

Should they get the same iron-clad guarantee against accountability that liberals want to provide for public school teachers?

Or is this another classic example of left wing double standard?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Seriously, they really think anyone is qualified. I don't see it that way.

Not anyone. I wouldn't let YOU teach my dog, let alone a kid.

Generally speaking, though, I trust the kid's parents a hell of a lot more than I trust some brainless, dried-up leftist **** like you with no stake in his future and a seriously overblown sense of her value to . . . well, anything, really.

And I wouldn't let a classless old moron like you anywhere near anyone in my family. What's your point?

Teachers go to school, get their degrees, they know how to do this. They aren't some religious righter attempting to add two plus two for five minutes then spending five hours on bible study...

My point, oh ignoramus, is that we aren't talking about YOUR family. Your little insult was doubly meaningless not only because your opinions are as useless as you are, but also because, unlike you, I feel no compulsion whatsoever to barge into other people's lives and families and start issuing directives and telling them how to raise their children. To the contrary, where any relations of yours are concerned, I actually think it's better if they remained quarantined away from the general population. You, on the other hand, labor under the erroneous belief that you are entitled to a say in other people's lives, and that, indeed, people are actually eager to hear what passes for "thought" in that vacuum between your ears.

Teacher go to school and get degrees. Gloryosky. So what? And they "know how to do this". The "this" that they know how to do is actually getting a degree, which is of no interest and value to me or my children whatsoever, particularly since education degrees are the Special Ed classes of the university world.

And this brings us back to the point: it's none of your business. It doesn't become your business at any point in the discussion, even if it's your obsessively-hated religious right who is daring to birth offspring and raise them without regard to what you think would be the best way to raise children that no sane man would put into YOUR womb, even with THREE bags. THEY ARE NOT YOUR CHILDREN. NO ONE ASKED YOU. And you're one of the most ignorant excuses for a biped I've ever encountered, so even if this WERE a community decision to make - which it is not - your opinion STILL would carry less weight than a puff of warm hydrogen.

Do I need to get out the Crayolas and draw you a diagram explaining how there is no drivel you can spew that is going to make it in any way, shape, or form your business how other people raise and educate the children you have absolutely nothing to do with?

 

[Sarah G]

Not anyone. I wouldn't let YOU teach my dog, let alone a kid.

Generally speaking, though, I trust the kid's parents a hell of a lot more than I trust some brainless, dried-up leftist **** like you with no stake in his future and a seriously overblown sense of her value to . . . well, anything, really.

And I wouldn't let a classless old moron like you anywhere near anyone in my family. What's your point?

Teachers go to school, get their degrees, they know how to do this. They aren't some religious righter attempting to add two plus two for five minutes then spending five hours on bible study...

My point, oh ignoramus, is that we aren't talking about YOUR family. Your little insult was doubly meaningless not only because your opinions are as useless as you are, but also because, unlike you, I feel no compulsion whatsoever to barge into other people's lives and families and start issuing directives and telling them how to raise their children. To the contrary, where any relations of yours are concerned, I actually think it's better if they remained quarantined away from the general population. You, on the other hand, labor under the erroneous belief that you are entitled to a say in other people's lives, and that, indeed, people are actually eager to hear what passes for "thought" in that vacuum between your ears.

Teacher go to school and get degrees. Gloryosky. So what? And they "know how to do this". The "this" that they know how to do is actually getting a degree, which is of no interest and value to me or my children whatsoever, particularly since education degrees are the Special Ed classes of the university world.

And this brings us back to the point: it's none of your business. It doesn't become your business at any point in the discussion, even if it's your obsessively-hated religious right who is daring to birth offspring and raise them without regard to what you think would be the best way to raise children that no sane man would put into YOUR womb, even with THREE bags. THEY ARE NOT YOUR CHILDREN. NO ONE ASKED YOU. And you're one of the most ignorant excuses for a biped I've ever encountered, so even if this WERE a community decision to make - which it is not - your opinion STILL would carry less weight than a puff of warm hydrogen.

Do I need to get out the Crayolas and draw you a diagram explaining how there is no drivel you can spew that is going to make it in any way, shape, or form your business how other people raise and educate the children you have absolutely nothing to do with?

HaHa, that't the way you old backwoods hags think about degrees. They aren't worth the paper they're written on. You can get your crayolas out if that's soothing for you ya nutty old goat.

No they're not my children, my children are educated.